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View Poll Results: Was there an advanced civilization in the world's past?
Yes, there were advanced human technologies in the past 0 0%
Yes, there were alien technologies on Earth on the past 0 0%
No, it's all malarkey 2 22.22%
No, it's all balderdash 2 22.22%
The advanced technologies found are actually from the future 1 11.11%
Time is actually cyclical in nature; the future is the past 1 11.11%
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:09 PM   #41
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Question Connect dots

Would you explain how one crazy mathematician's rantings refute evidence of advanced stonework in ancient times?

Like these drill marks in a basalt column from ancient Egypt:



Or the impossibly precise stonework to be found at Tiahuanaco in Bolivia:







Mind you, this work was done by South Americans sometime around 600 BCE. People who supposedly hadn't invented the wheel or writing...


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Old 06-17-2014, 08:27 PM   #42
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*peeks in* Not to mention the mystery of how different civilisations separated by time and space all came up with the same idea of building pyramidal stuff *runs away*


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Old 06-17-2014, 09:04 PM   #43
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:34 AM   #44
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Arrow The point of architecture

Actually, I'm going to debunk the pyramid thing.



When any early civilization starts building large structures in stone, it runs into a limit as to how tall it can go without falling over. The solution to this is to develop mathematics and geometry so you can invent the arch, and eventually steel infrastructure...but an early solution is to build in a pyramidal shape, which won't fall over.

Sorry. Pyramids everywhere not a mystery.

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Huaxia? McCoy, where are you getting this stuff?


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Old 06-18-2014, 06:09 AM   #45
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Actually, I'm going to debunk
I hate the word 'debunk', it sounds silly and always seems to be used on tv programmes where nothing is 'debunked' at all. Sneering at so called 'conspiracy theorists' while chuckling and rolling your eyeballs doesn't 'debunk' anything.

Stop using that word Zoom. Use something else to make your point....NOW!


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Old 06-18-2014, 02:32 PM   #46
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Old 06-20-2014, 03:16 PM   #47
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:14 AM   #48
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Or the impossibly precise stonework to be found at Tiahuanaco in Bolivia:







Mind you, this work was done by South Americans sometime around 600 BCE. People who supposedly hadn't invented the wheel or writing...
"Impossibly precise"? Not at all. Those stones could have, and were, easily made out of pounding stones, sand, and copper tools, all of which were found to be used in their construction. I don't know why people think this is "impossibly precise" stonework, just because some crazy Swiss guy said it was? Maybe people should start doing some real research instead of listening to "the evidence scientists DON'T want you to see".
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:11 PM   #49
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Speaking of pounding sand...



Okay. Just for laughs, let's drop you into the desert with nothing more than stone, sand, copper tools and an assignment: carve just one of the precision blocks pictured--to the same tolerances--out of the natural stone to be found there.

Let me know when you're done. I've already tried it and admitted that I couldn't do it without using machinery. Maybe you'll have more luck.


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Let's drop you off into some monastary with only some blocks of wood, pigskin, a quill, some ink and an assignment: produce an old handwritten bible with pictograms and stuff. All neat and tidy.

Can't do it?
Well, I guess aliens produced those old bibles!




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Old 06-23-2014, 04:57 AM   #51
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:56 AM   #52
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Let's drop you off into some monastary with only some blocks of wood, pigskin, a quill, some ink and an assignment: produce an old handwritten bible with pictograms and stuff. All neat and tidy.

Can't do it?
Well, I guess aliens produced those old bibles!
Oh, I could totally produce an illuminated bible. I am creative, you know...

*(Steals Laurence Fishburne's sun glasses.)*

Note: I'm not proposing that aliens built the temples at Tiahuanaco. I'm proposing that the normal humans who did had more advanced tools to work with than stone, sand and copper chisels.


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Old 06-23-2014, 09:54 AM   #53
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Same difference.




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Old 06-23-2014, 12:09 PM   #54
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Arrow All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again

Thesis 1: alien travelers from a distant star came all the way to earth, bringing advanced technology with them, and used it to benefit the rise of mankind; that civilization then fell, causing us to start over again.

Thesis 2: human beings advanced their own technology by means of science and mathematics, benefiting the rise of mankind; that civilization then fell, causing us to start over again.

Really? Both theories are equal in likelihood?


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Old 06-23-2014, 02:39 PM   #55
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Speaking of pounding sand...



Okay. Just for laughs, let's drop you into the desert with nothing more than stone, sand, copper tools and an assignment: carve just one of the precision blocks pictured--to the same tolerances--out of the natural stone to be found there.

Let me know when you're done. I've already tried it and admitted that I couldn't do it without using machinery. Maybe you'll have more luck.
Not that hard for someone who knows how to do it, i.e. the Incas. To make smooth surfaces, you pound out the rock with another, smaller rock, and then use yet another rock with sand to grind it down and make a smooth surface. Humans had been doing that for hundreds of years prior, even in ancient Egypt. To carve out these "impossibly precise" blocks, all you need are some copper tools... the molds of which were found on site. Carving out these stones did not require any sort of higher intelligence or extraterrestrials, just some stones, sand, copper tools, and a little bit of elbow grease.
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I see you continue to believe that primitive means were used to construct the perfect angles and tolerances of the stonework depicted. So be it.

How about some of the examples I discussed on page 1, indicating a lost chapter in our history? Granted, I was only having fun with the moon stuff (although the head on the moon is intriguing) but what about:

The Antikythera device, a complex gear-driven mechanism charting the movements of the moon and planets 1,400 years before the advent of even simple clockwork mechanism in Europe?

Or the clear depiction of Antarctica on a sea map printed in 1533, when the continent itself was not discovered until 1820?


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although the head on the moon is intriguing
As is the "Face on Mars".




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More stonework mystery



Vitrified fort. Medieval in construction, with stones which have been fused together under high, deliberate heat. Believe they were formed by sacked castles burning in the night if you wish, but we really don't know why or even how they were constructed...


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My, that escalated quickly


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Naw, everyone kept their heads.

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I'm with David Icke and his theory of Reptilians....actually this should be on the Conspiracy thread.


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Old 06-28-2014, 03:25 AM   #62
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I hear the queen is one.

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Isn't her picture on all the money over there? Terribly sorry about that.


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