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Old 04-20-2002, 01:06 PM   #41
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Re: Ok....

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Ok so maybe you don't bow to just anyone. But I think the guy/girl that just won 9 duels in a row deserves something. WTF is wrong with bowing? It's just roleplaying to a certain extent. Good god.
If you want to role play as jedi... Then role play it right, they never bow to each other in the movies. Not once!

Also this game's genre isn't even an RGP... its a first person shooter!
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:38 PM   #42
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Bowing in duels

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Not once did anyone bow in the starwars movies so don't even think bowing is a jedi thing.
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan bowed to the Gungan Council in Episode 1.



If the other person bows I'll saber off, quickly look down at my feet, and then look up again and saber up (if they bow to me). I won't crouch though. If they're still crouching and looking down like they've discovered a dog-poop that bears a strange resemblance to Elvis, then I'll taunt them.

If that doesn't get them up, nothing wakes a Jedi up quicker than a saber-throw.



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Old 04-20-2002, 07:14 PM   #43
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*ffffffttttt* I'll tell you what's goddamn 'G A Y' waiting 30 seconds for someone to type in 'ggood lick' [then] 'I meant goog luck' [then] 'sry - meant good luck'

Or EVEN BLOODY WORSE - some patronizing b'strd typing in 'Are you ready, sonny?' (or words to that effect)


Bowing takes 2 seconds - and to me it means - "I have my force config ok; I don't need to take a p*ss; I've lit my ciggy; ready; willing; able; good luck; all the best; lets cut the bloody typing and get the hell on with the fun stuff..."

You dozy machos who think that it is to do with 'honour and respect'!!??? And as for this goddamn sith "don't mess with me - I'm in character, darling"....why don't you go the whole hog and play with a black motorbike helmet on?? (Sorry that was a joke!)

BUT!! I hate to break it to you - but about the c**p that bowing is to do with 'honour' - 1 word - WRONG!!!

jeez -- go and be a goddamn Klingon in some Star Trek game...
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Old 04-21-2002, 12:14 AM   #44
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how bout i just send u flowers after i saber your ass


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Old 04-21-2002, 12:27 AM   #45
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About the bowing to the Gungans.. I was meaning about bowing just before fighting in sabre combat.
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Old 04-21-2002, 12:48 AM   #46
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Most of the time, I'll give 'em a head-nod, signifying "Good luck, you're gonna need it...."

Of course, I find myself needing it (luck) more than I'd like...
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Old 04-21-2002, 12:57 AM   #47
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What I do is bow, turn in the oppisite direction and shake my booty. Cracks me up every time I do it.


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Old 04-21-2002, 01:02 AM   #48
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Hey if you bow at me one of two things might happen:

1: Decapitation

2: Anal Rape

take your pick
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:53 AM   #49
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Re: PsyKo

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Originally posted by El_Pedro_
Played my first DUEL tonight and you were there nice as pie P - not very good but nice, what's with the I'm the daddy ****?
Reply to my name at hotmail 'cos I doubt I'll be back here - to many P's to decapitate


That wasn't me because I haven't played since I posted this . I usually have my name in red or blue on one of the Darkside saber only servers.

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Old 04-21-2002, 03:38 AM   #50
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Granted I play almost exclusively duel matches, leaving me with somewhat of a bias, but here is my opinion nonetheless.

Bowing before dueling is fine, for a plethora of reasons. Firstly, it takes 3 seconds for a long bow. If your day is so busy that 3 seconds are enough to piss you off, you probably shouldn't be playing videogames to begin with. Secondly, bowing is conducive to promoting the chosen character role-playing inherent to this game, or any Star Wars game. Sure, no one bows in the movies, but in the game it is a way of humanizing yourself and your opponent, just like taunting. When someone charges at me blindly or jumps around like an imbecile, two things happen: I feel like I'm playing with a Initiate bot, and then they die. Thirdly, bowing makes others feel respected, whether you actually respect them or not; this will increase the userbase, as D66 pointed out. Finally (this needs to be restated), it takes 3 seconds for a long bow. The only time I start to remember how much time the bow took during a match I'm observing is when the combatants try to impress each other to death with unnecessary Jedi acrobatics and pithy custom taunts.

Like Mr. T, I pity the fool who stops to bow to me during an FFA match, because I'll roll a thermal detonator down their spine.
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:55 PM   #51
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And once again I'm left wondering two things.
1) Why are other people's ways of gaming and having fun not appreciated if they're not "mainstream"?
2) Why the hell is the word gay an insult? TELL MEEEEEEE!!!!!
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Old 04-21-2002, 06:06 PM   #52
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Q. "Why is GAY an insult??"

Excellent point - maybe the dude who started this thread has a male-orientated inferiority complex - maybe his lightsaber is part of his manhood?

It would also suggested why he is anti-bowing - perhaps it is a reminder of a bad experience whilst bending over one time?

hhmmm - but maybe not.
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Old 04-21-2002, 06:26 PM   #53
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maybe his lightsaber is part of his manhood?
Let's hope he doesn't throw it too often then.


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Old 04-21-2002, 06:32 PM   #54
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Probably just has an obsession with switching it on and off.
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Old 04-25-2002, 01:16 AM   #55
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I can't believe people can get all upset over such a simple thing as bowing! Jeeze, if that's all it takes to piss you off, you must be one sob in real life. It only takes a couple seconds, get over it...

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Old 04-25-2002, 12:21 PM   #56
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I have a solution to everyones problem...

strike the bower down THEN bow to him


sort of like honouring his spirit to stovokor LOL


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Old 04-27-2002, 01:01 AM   #57
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Generally, I respect the rules of the server, both written and unwritten. If they're bowing, I'll bow. if they start goign at it right away, I'll go at it right away. Basically, I strive NOT to be arsehole who type in leet-speak and spam-kills.

If they DFA spam, I'll do my best to purge them from the game as quickly as possible *g*



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Old 04-27-2002, 01:07 AM   #58
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In my experiance; the ones that bow before a duel are usually the more skillful players who know the rules of dueling.

AKA

Rules of Engagement.

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Old 04-27-2002, 01:07 PM   #59
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I bow in matches just like I bow in martial arts. It's a sign of respect and increases the friendship between players. If someone doesn't bow, no big deal. But don't think that someone is an easy target just because they bow-far from it, I believe. These players are the same ones who show skill and honor each other with excellent moves, not just hacking and slashing.
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Old 04-27-2002, 02:07 PM   #60
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yup, in duelling servers, i've also noticed that the 'bowing jedis'
are USUALLY (not all, mind you) the skilled ones confident in their moves and strategy....confident enough to take a bow and still know specific tactics that lures rushers into a 'false sense of security' .... ive noticed that some people actually use bowing to lure people into attacking...with a dodge-counter slash sequence ready to execute.
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Old 04-27-2002, 02:47 PM   #61
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Obijon,

I agree with you whole heartedly, never in the movies do we see two jedi bow to each other before they fight.

However, never in the movies do we see two jedi have a lightsaber duel.

now for my self Q&A session.

Q: "But enDless, in every movie we see a Lightsaber duel. Vader has three of them, and Darth Maul has two of them"

A: Sorry Timmy, but you are wrong. What we see in the movies are Light Saber fights. There isn't much of a difference between a One on One fight and a duel(visually at least), aside from the fact that one just happens, and the other is usually the result of a challenge, done with rules, or at the very least with people not allowed to interfere.

Q: "But enDless, in a New Hope the Storm Troopers don't interfere with Vader and Obi-wan's lightsaber fight"

A: Right you are, however, they weren't told not to. In the Star Wars universe, it's been mentioned in the book several times that people have a fascination with watching people with lightsabers go at it. Then, there is also the question of Storm Troopers and accuracy. I mean, if you could barely hit the broad-side of a barn, would you fire into a melee engagement where there was a good chance of hitting Darth Vader? A man who kills people for making simple mistakes? As for the other movies. In ESB and RotJ Vader/Emperor send away all people who would interfere with the fight, as they wanted privacy to turn Skywalker. In TPM, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan send Amidala and crew away to finish the mission of capturing the Trade Federation Guy while they dealt with Darth Maul.

Sorry if that came across as rude, it wasn't meant to be (I'm sleepy still always am). The point is, we have no evidence as to whether or not jedi saluted/bowed before duelling. All we have is evidence that fighters in our time frame, and in the time frames/eras of where the jedi were based off of, did in fact bow or salute before a fight.

With that in mind. I want a 'Saber Salute' animation so I can "bow" without lowering my eyes.


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Old 04-27-2002, 06:43 PM   #62
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Well regarding respect: I used to play XwA and while I never was in danger of being called the best pilot, I was good enough to give most of the people I met a run for their money. In my squad we had a lot of people with various skills, some worse than me and some better. We respected other squads if they acted nice(in and out of the actual game), skill had nothing to do with it.

We didn't care if someone bought the game ten minutes ago. If he respected the rules, and seemed like a fun person we usually recruited him. It was far easier to train someone and make him a decent to good player than it was to make an ******* with great skills into a nice person.

This only matters if you're into the whole squad/clan thing of course, if you're a loner you can do as you like.

And as far as the "Bowing is not a Jedi thing..." goes:

Unlike Q3 and Unreal the character this game encourages a little roleplaying and I see nothing wrong with that, to each his own.
While its called Jedi Knights, I thing fighting style and philosophy are far more related to the samurai than to the european medieval knight. Maybe GL looked that way for inspiration, and if so bowing isn't that far of the mark.
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