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Old 09-09-2002, 11:08 PM   #1
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Hello all,
Redeemed is a Christian JO clan that is currently looking for new members. We play Jk and JO and we have our own server. If you're interested check out the site here. www.christiangaming.org/redeemed
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Old 09-09-2002, 11:12 PM   #2
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What a great webpage and idea. I can really respect a clan like that. And the webpage looks great. Keep it up.


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THE WORM: "TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, TELL ME SOMETHING FREE, TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND I WISH THAT I COULD BE." JACK: (NOT SPOKEN) COME, COME THE TOYS ALL SMELL LIKE CHILDREN AND SCAB-KNEES WILL OBEY I'LL HAVE TO KNEEL ON BROOMSTICKSJUST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY [THE INAUGURATION OF THE WORM] A VOICE WE HAVE NOT YET HEARD: "BECAUSE TODAY
IS BLACK/BECAUSE THERE IS NO TURNING BACK. BECAUSE YOUR LIES HAVE WATERED ME/ I HAVE BECOME THE STRONGEST WEED" THROUGH JACK'S EYES: THE TASTE OF METAL DISINTEGRATOR THREE HOLES UPON THE LEATHER BELT IT'S CUT AND SWOLLEN AND THE AGE IS SHOWING BOY: " THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SAVE OURSELF." THE DISINTEGRATOR: (TO HIMSELF) THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR YOU ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:08 PM   #3
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Hm. Good idea. Watch out for the fundamentalists, they may object to "Christian" and "fun" being in the same subject.

j/k. Good idea, and I agree, good website.


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Old 09-10-2002, 03:06 PM   #4
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I am already involved in a clan but I am curious as to what your definition to Christian is. Some people seperate Catholocism and Christianity so far that they are not the same and others combine the two because of the inate basics of that religion. Some people include Morminism and a WHOLE LOT do not link them to Christianity because of its beliefs and origins. Some of those "free spirit" people believe that God, Allah, Buddah (even though he is not a god), etc names of gods are all the same beings and since all believing people follow one of the personas then they are all of the same religion because their god is the same person. I love religion! Cannot get enough of it in college. They teach you so much more than piddly HS.

Hope to hear from you.

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Old 09-10-2002, 03:11 PM   #5
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**wipes sweat from brow after reading pauls post** wow man you said a mouth full.


HE LIVES INSIDE MY MOUTH AND TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE MAKES IT GO AWAY THE HANDS ARE CRACKED AND DIRTY AND THE NAILS ARE BEETLE WINGS WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE UNTIES ALL OF THE STRINGS
THE WORM: "TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, TELL ME SOMETHING FREE, TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND I WISH THAT I COULD BE." JACK: (NOT SPOKEN) COME, COME THE TOYS ALL SMELL LIKE CHILDREN AND SCAB-KNEES WILL OBEY I'LL HAVE TO KNEEL ON BROOMSTICKSJUST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY [THE INAUGURATION OF THE WORM] A VOICE WE HAVE NOT YET HEARD: "BECAUSE TODAY
IS BLACK/BECAUSE THERE IS NO TURNING BACK. BECAUSE YOUR LIES HAVE WATERED ME/ I HAVE BECOME THE STRONGEST WEED" THROUGH JACK'S EYES: THE TASTE OF METAL DISINTEGRATOR THREE HOLES UPON THE LEATHER BELT IT'S CUT AND SWOLLEN AND THE AGE IS SHOWING BOY: " THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SAVE OURSELF." THE DISINTEGRATOR: (TO HIMSELF) THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR YOU ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:26 PM   #6
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I don't usually say much but when I do you are gonna hear it. It is just that I have studied philosophy and religion for about 9 years now since I first gained religious awarness and have been facinated with it since. My father is an ex-ordained minister but he dicided that he was not going to continue to be a Christian after learning about it and going to seminary schooling for about 4 years. I have some heated arguments with him about religion so I am well prepared to think on my own and not just what the Church or anyone else says. I am an informed believer is what it comes down to.

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Old 09-10-2002, 07:09 PM   #7
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And you like hockey too! What a guy.


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Old 09-12-2002, 01:12 AM   #8
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So there is no response to my inquires? Pity. Have fun anyways.

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Slyly: <Where does it say that it is a sin to have sex before you are married?>
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Old 09-12-2002, 01:38 AM   #9
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You'll get a responce from me. Personally I can't argue with anything you've said. It makes sense and shows a good amount of wisdom in the subject. The only thing I can say is I read it and I liked what you had to say. Take it easy everyone.


HE LIVES INSIDE MY MOUTH AND TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE MAKES IT GO AWAY THE HANDS ARE CRACKED AND DIRTY AND THE NAILS ARE BEETLE WINGS WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE UNTIES ALL OF THE STRINGS
THE WORM: "TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, TELL ME SOMETHING FREE, TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND I WISH THAT I COULD BE." JACK: (NOT SPOKEN) COME, COME THE TOYS ALL SMELL LIKE CHILDREN AND SCAB-KNEES WILL OBEY I'LL HAVE TO KNEEL ON BROOMSTICKSJUST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY [THE INAUGURATION OF THE WORM] A VOICE WE HAVE NOT YET HEARD: "BECAUSE TODAY
IS BLACK/BECAUSE THERE IS NO TURNING BACK. BECAUSE YOUR LIES HAVE WATERED ME/ I HAVE BECOME THE STRONGEST WEED" THROUGH JACK'S EYES: THE TASTE OF METAL DISINTEGRATOR THREE HOLES UPON THE LEATHER BELT IT'S CUT AND SWOLLEN AND THE AGE IS SHOWING BOY: " THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SAVE OURSELF." THE DISINTEGRATOR: (TO HIMSELF) THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR YOU ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR
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Old 09-12-2002, 08:20 AM   #10
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Me? I am getting confused.


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Old 09-12-2002, 06:39 PM   #11
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hey great idea i am a devoted christian so i like the idea of a christian clan "God bless America

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Old 09-12-2002, 10:00 PM   #12
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I've played games with that christian clan. and im not making fun of them or anything..

but after they kill someone they say 'God is love'.

isnt that kind of contradictory? lol i mean.. you kill someone in cold blood (sorta) then say god is love heh

*shrug* g/l with the clan!


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Old 09-13-2002, 01:56 AM   #13
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Here is an interesting thought to all who all are Christians out there: How can you play and promote something that is so blatently against the Bible? In the bible it says that magic is of the devil and no one should use it unless they (not quoting) fall from God's grace. Since the force is a means of magic (magically pushing, pulling, seeing through walls, going in people's memories, feeling people's emotions, using magic to shoot two small spheres in a barely larger hole) how can you claim to be one of God's blessed ones when you also have an inkling toward the devil. Now I know that SW is not real but the Bible does not state that play magic is acceptable. Even people in the old days were put to death for "playing around" with magic because it is against God's Will. I have tried to make this as short as possible but if I need to go more in depth I will.

To Father Torque: just because people are Christians does not make them good people. I know people who consider themselves Christians based on the fact that 30 years ago they pledged that Jesus was the Son of God and because they acknowledged that they are Christians forever and can do whatever they want on Earth because that is all that some denominations believe is the key to get into Heaven. I know BASTARDS who claim to be Christians on a part time basis (namely when people are looking).

To Kahl: Maybe because in Christianity there is no death they feel that by helping you along to Heaven they are expressing God's love to you by allowing you to go see God earlier?

Where in the bible does it say that you cannot have sex before marriage? I hate it when pastors and othe stupid ignorant people claim that and then the assemblage of people just accept that as prevelany truth.

I hate stupid people! I think we should give them all signs and as normal I went on a little speach rampage. So with that I am going to work and I wish all of you the very best in your spiritual strife.

BigTeddyPaul

As always I accept criticism and debates and questions and anything else you want to say. I am still waiting to hear from R_Obi-Wan Kenobi though. Why won't he answer? He makes a thread and then never looks back at it?
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Old 09-15-2002, 02:31 AM   #14
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Old 09-15-2002, 04:24 AM   #15
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Why would you say that. It is not nice to insult someone and then run off. I said I accept criticism and debates NOT insults. If you would like to back up your claim then go ahead and do so. I must warn you though that unless you have also studied religion extensively then I suggest you do not or you might be made a fool of. I have lived in the Mid West and am well versed in Biblical knowledge. I lived in England for over a year and saw and studied many things that most Americans can only dream about. I have traveled for about 3 months in Western Europe where I enriched myself in culture. I am not going to name all the place I went to because it would take too long.

If you do believe that I am a Satan Worshiper then back it up. I have not said/claimed anything by saying something like Satan is god, I am the Anti-Christ, or that Jesus was just a man. Most religions do not even believe that last one. In closing do not insult me and then leave like a coward. Give me facts to back up your claim and then we will talk.

Back it up or run like a coward. The choice is yours.

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The funny part is that I have belonged to at least 4 denominations of Christianity, I have studied religion for 12 years now and I know more than adults, plus I went to a Christian school for the last 3 years of HS. I laugh at your claim.


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Old 09-15-2002, 04:31 AM   #16
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Kahl that was just a childish post that didn't even need to be said. Paul was having a serious and very polite conversation with everyone here and you chime in with flame. That dissapoints me very much. I've lost a bit of my initial respect for you. Hope this does not happen again.


HE LIVES INSIDE MY MOUTH AND TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE MAKES IT GO AWAY THE HANDS ARE CRACKED AND DIRTY AND THE NAILS ARE BEETLE WINGS WHEN HE TURNS THE TRAINS ON HE UNTIES ALL OF THE STRINGS
THE WORM: "TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, TELL ME SOMETHING FREE, TELL ME SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL AND I WISH THAT I COULD BE." JACK: (NOT SPOKEN) COME, COME THE TOYS ALL SMELL LIKE CHILDREN AND SCAB-KNEES WILL OBEY I'LL HAVE TO KNEEL ON BROOMSTICKSJUST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY [THE INAUGURATION OF THE WORM] A VOICE WE HAVE NOT YET HEARD: "BECAUSE TODAY
IS BLACK/BECAUSE THERE IS NO TURNING BACK. BECAUSE YOUR LIES HAVE WATERED ME/ I HAVE BECOME THE STRONGEST WEED" THROUGH JACK'S EYES: THE TASTE OF METAL DISINTEGRATOR THREE HOLES UPON THE LEATHER BELT IT'S CUT AND SWOLLEN AND THE AGE IS SHOWING BOY: " THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO SAVE OURSELF." THE DISINTEGRATOR: (TO HIMSELF) THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR YOU ARE WHAT YOU SHOULD FEAR
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Old 09-16-2002, 08:48 PM   #17
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oh my god, doesnt any one have a sence of humor, i was just joking around..

sorry for the misunderstanding. but i was just jokin.


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Old 09-17-2002, 03:16 AM   #18
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I rarely cuss so I did not think or say that. The most profane words I use are piss and Bastard. Ohhhhh! If you were joking then it is true that humor and sarcasm lose its meaning over the internet. But it all you said was devil worshipper and no jk or anything. I have already forgotten about the matter adn I suggest we all do the same.

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Old 09-17-2002, 05:42 PM   #19
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satan worshiper>

That wasn't even funny.


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Old 09-18-2002, 12:45 AM   #20
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Warning number one.


next time, there will be no warning. Please do not resort to racial slurs, and moronic comments. Thanks.


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Old 09-18-2002, 01:23 AM   #21
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ay cramba Kahl! here i am lookin at this thread (i was interested) and thinkin well this is all nice and cool, then a little heated argument, then patch up, then bam Kahl gets a little too excited. So DEEP BREATH *inhale* *exhale* let all thoughts of anger and hate flow from your mind and body, there now doesn't that feel better? now let's hope this thread can remain flame-free and informative. BigTeddy that's quite an eyeful to read all that stuff hehe but gee some really interesting opinions there (this stuff doesn't exactly relate to jk2, but then again ive never seen this stuff in a jk2 forum before) if i were to choose a religion it would be buddhism, since ive never heard of any recent buddhism wars or prejudice, but that's just my opinion

btw gl on the christian clan
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Old 09-18-2002, 04:22 AM   #22
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Kahl: "post isn't aloud, neither is quote. -obi"

I am sorry but I take offense to that. That was uncalled for. If you want to cuss that is up to you but there are certain lines you do not cross. This I believe is one of them. I am a white person and I do not care who you are but ethnicity should not be used as a slur here or anywhere. There is no room for hate. I do not know what else to say at this time but Kahl please do not ever address me again. You are not a nice person and I wish for you to not talk to me. I will also do the same.

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Old 09-23-2002, 02:39 AM   #23
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Here is an interesting thought to all who all are Christians out there: How can you play and promote something that is so blatently against the Bible? In the bible it says that magic is of the devil and no one should use it unless they (not quoting) fall from God's grace. Since the force is a means of magic (magically pushing, pulling, seeing through walls, going in people's memories, feeling people's emotions, using magic to shoot two small spheres in a barely larger hole) how can you claim to be one of God's blessed ones when you also have an inkling toward the devil. Now I know that SW is not real but the Bible does not state that play magic is acceptable. Even people in the old days were put to death for "playing around" with magic because it is against God's Will. I have tried to make this as short as possible but if I need to go more in depth I will.
Answer: Against the bible? if you look at SW in the correct way it paints a perfect picture of the bible, good and bad, one person can bring balance... jesus died on the cross and balanced out all the sin we had. If playing JO is sin then we shall be forgivin becuse "we know not what we do".
In "old days" people didnt have PCs or Consoles... playing around with magic was REAL magic.

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To Father Torque: just because people are Christians does not make them good people. I know people who consider themselves Christians based on the fact that 30 years ago they pledged that Jesus was the Son of God and because they acknowledged that they are Christians forever and can do whatever they want on Earth because that is all that some denominations believe is the key to get into Heaven. I know BASTARDS who claim to be Christians on a part time basis (namely when people are looking).
Answer: that is true but sad. yes meny people do that but that does not mean it is the same way for all chrisitians.

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Where in the bible does it say that you cannot have sex before marriage? I hate it when pastors and othe stupid ignorant people claim that and then the assemblage of people just accept that as prevelany truth.

Answer: where do i start? Heb 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefield; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge
Notice "the bed undefiled"
Again:

Proverbs 5
15Drink water from your own well--share your love only with your wife.[1] 16Why spill the water of your springs in public, having sex with just anyone?[2] 17You should reserve it for yourselves. Don't share it with strangers.
18Let your wife be a fountain of blessing for you. Rejoice in the wife of your youth. 19She is a loving doe, a graceful deer. Let her breasts satisfy you always. May you always be captivated by her love. 20Why be captivated, my son, with an immoral woman, or embrace the breasts of an adulterous woman?
21For the LORD sees clearly what a man does, examining every path he takes.


Need i say more? if you call people ignorant for believeing THAT then you my freind, have just proved your ignorance.




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Proverbs 5
15Drink water from your own well--share your love only with your wife.[1] 16Why spill the water of your springs in public, having sex with just anyone?[2] 17You should reserve it for yourselves. Don't share it with strangers.
18Let your wife be a fountain of blessing for you. Rejoice in the wife of your youth. 19She is a loving doe, a graceful deer. Let her breasts satisfy you always. May you always be captivated by her love. 20Why be captivated, my son, with an immoral woman, or embrace the breasts of an adulterous woman?
21For the LORD sees clearly what a man does, examining every path he takes.
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is that actually from the bible??
Yes, That is actually from the Bible. Proverbs 5:15-21
Look for yourself if you dont believe me.

BTW, that is "The New Living Translation" to be exact.




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