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Old 11-20-2002, 08:03 PM   #1
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There Is Not Going To Be A Jedi Knight 3!

Dark Forces
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
Jedi Outcast 2:unknown

See the pattern???
There is going to be a Jedi Outcast 2!!!!!
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:09 PM   #2
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Lol, what are you talking about? You never know, Raven may make a JK3 unless they call it something else. I don't get the pattern either. Of course it's unknown, not even in the making yet. What the heck? lol
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Old 11-20-2002, 10:45 PM   #3
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Although there IS a pattern,but I don't think there is a Force rank called Jedi Outcast.I think the next game will be called Jedi Knight 3.


When you slice a person, do you slice him with the fastest stroke, or do you forcefully incapacitate him?
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Old 11-21-2002, 10:32 AM   #4
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they will make a new jedi knight game



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Old 11-21-2002, 11:47 AM   #5
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It's not guaranteed Raven will make it. That's up to LEC. Raven didn't make DF or DF2: Jedi Knight. Plus if you remember the survey LEC sent out, they asked and got overwhelming response on whether or not they should continue the "Jedi Knight Series".
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Old 11-21-2002, 11:54 AM   #6
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I wouldent count on it at least for another 3 years.



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Old 11-21-2002, 02:51 PM   #7
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here we go again:
Quote:
ow boy another JK3 tread
or in this case, a JO2 tread



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Old 11-21-2002, 02:56 PM   #8
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There will be another one. That survey LA sent out pretty much sealed the deal. I kinda doubt that Raven will be the one making the game, but watch out for it in two or three years, probly using the Doom III engine (oooh, Bump maps)

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Old 11-21-2002, 06:15 PM   #9
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1. Jedi Outcast means that Kyle, the Jedi, is an outcast, it's not a rank.

2. They will probably make an expansion, and another game. They're making too much money off it to drop it yet. Wouldn't be for a few years though.

3. Doom III's bump-mapping really pisses me off. The textures have to be made in 3D, all this height map crap. All that is HARDLY needed for good bump-mapping. All you need is a grayscale heightmap of the texture, you could adjust contrast to change how the bump-maps look in game (the depth). id always always makes things way more difficult than necessary...
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Old 11-21-2002, 07:36 PM   #10
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we can only look forward to one more in the dark forces series.

remember x-wing series?

we had:
x-wing
tie fighter
XW vs. TF

and

XWA

been 4 years..and nothin new..


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Old 11-21-2002, 08:21 PM   #11
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You really scared me with that title for the thread "There will be no JK3". I thought you meant no more Jedi games. Now I am going to have nightmares of a world with no new "Jedi outcast's"
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Old 11-21-2002, 10:22 PM   #12
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He's partially right, no JK3, its gonna be...

Dark Forces 4!!
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Old 11-21-2002, 10:34 PM   #13
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DF 4, I like that, we need another Mercenary game. :/ Han Solo game would have been sweet! But nooooo.
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Old 11-21-2002, 11:19 PM   #14
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Well,I really hope there will be a Jedi Knight 3 but what new storyline would they put in?Do you want to play another Jedi and fight another Dark Jedi/Sith?Does anyone want the recurring story thrice?

No offence,if I broke anyone's bubbles...


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Old 11-22-2002, 12:08 AM   #15
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Why would it be Dark Forces 4? There was no dark forces 3! People call this game Dark Forces 3 but no where on the box, on raven's site, on LEC, no where but on fan pages is it referred to DF3.

As for the story line. Granted the first three have been about Kyle Katarn, but why should the next one be about him? Why not a story about Luke or one of his other Jedi? There are other enemies in the SW Universe now that storylines can be drawn from. LEC's survey pretty much pointed out that it wouldn't be about Katarn with the questions about whether or not his story has run it's course, who would we like to see stories about, etc.

Plus you're all getting way ahead of yourselves. The next one more than likely won't be on the DOOM III engine either. It took them 5 years from the time of DF2: Jedi Knight till JK2: Jedi Outcast came out. Aside of an expansion, next year sometime, maybe, it'll more than likely be 3-5 more years before another is made. By then there'll be another better newer faster etc etc Engine out. John Carmack, the Doom genius, said at E3 that he already wants to start on the next big gaming engine. Hence why Doom III is essentially Doom with a graphics engine on horse steroids. Doom III will have limited standard MP functions and is the exact same story as the first Doom. It doesn't even have a USE key. He made it just to show off the engine to sell the engine to developers who are into more dynamic games. Ontop of that the Unreal2 engine is supposed to be just as stunning if not more so then the Doom III engine, although with Dooms demo at E3 it was odd how Unreal2 got pushed back, perhaps to re-engineer alot of it.

Anyways, all this talk about JK3 is all wishfull thinking, and atleast 3 to 5 years off in the future.
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Old 11-22-2002, 12:38 AM   #16
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John Carmack actually said he was tired of making games and engines and stuff, instead wanting to concentrate on aerospace (he owns a company or something). Anyways, by the time JK3 comes out, doom3 engine would be quite outdated.
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Old 11-22-2002, 07:02 AM   #17
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truth be told, i think i kinda liked the jk1 engine hehe. i wonder if lucas arts could make JK3 themselves, with a custom built engine, which would allow for big environments again. i know it would probably take a while, err accually, was jk1 based on another engine or was it made from scratch?
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Old 11-22-2002, 03:51 PM   #18
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Dark Forces is when Kyle was a mercenary

Jedi Knight is when Kyle is a Jedi.


Reasonable?

If there was another Jedi Knight game, it probably would be JK3.
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Old 11-22-2002, 05:13 PM   #19
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Why JK3 would be about Kyle Katarn? The whole DF serises has been about him and I think that will continue.
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Old 11-22-2002, 05:22 PM   #20
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If that were so why would LEC include two questions in their survey that pointed to another character for the next installment? They asked if we thought another Kyle Katarn story should be told. They asked if there were another character we'd like to see. Saying that it has to be about Kyle isn't a fact. Mysteries of the Sith really wasn't about Kyle, half the game you play as Mara Jade.
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Old 11-22-2002, 05:49 PM   #21
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its too bad they made kyle old, like him when he was young
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Old 11-22-2002, 07:18 PM   #22
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It would be cool if JK3 / JO2 was set in the Episode 1 & 2 era
Kyle's too old to be in the next one methinks, unless he wears a wig....
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Old 11-23-2002, 06:46 AM   #23
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Eh, I don't think they'll continue this game in any form. They'll probably try to run with KotOR and SW:G... I'm sure they'll make some serious dough off that.... Then who knows, maybe a few years down the line, they'll make another FPS style Jedi game, but it won't be Jedi Outcast or anything of the sort.
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Old 11-23-2002, 07:03 AM   #24
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Re: There Is Not Going To Be A Jedi Knight 3!

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Originally posted by Monkey Mania
Dark Forces
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
Jedi Outcast 2:unknown

See the pattern???
There is going to be a Jedi Outcast 2!!!!!


There Is Going to Be a Jedi Outcast 2. i Got Info On it.


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Old 11-23-2002, 01:59 PM   #25
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Would you like to disclose any of that information? I suspect you don't actually have any

I would like Kyle to have died in this one, the title "outcast" obviously means he had to redeem himself in some way or another, and i was hoping he would redeem himself by saving Jan and he bit the bullet in the process. That way we could have finished with Kyle, who in my opinion is getting a bit boring now and open the way for a brand new story..

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Old 11-23-2002, 02:40 PM   #26
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Kyle should either kick the bucket, or be a less important NPC in the next game.
Maybe he can have an apprentice who would be the character the player takes role as...
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:12 AM   #27
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I like the apprentice idea and it'd be cool if the game had alternate endings like in DF2.


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Old 11-24-2002, 09:43 AM   #28
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I'm pretty sure they will make a JK3, JO2, whatever it will be called lol. JK2 was so successful, I think it would be inevitable to make another. Hopefully Kyle will get rid of his beard this time roundlol


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Old 11-24-2002, 02:50 PM   #29
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i wish i could use kyles model from JK1 in jk2, that'd be great. he like the old one more heh
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Old 11-24-2002, 03:21 PM   #30
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i wish i could use kyles model from JK1 in jk2, that'd be great. he like the old one more heh
Hopefully someone's made a similar skin / model of Kyle from JK1
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Old 11-25-2002, 07:25 PM   #31
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There's definatly going to be an expansion. Reasons why:

1. JO sold a lot. LEC can make more money on an expansion.

2. Tavion. That part was left open for an expansion.

3. In the ending cutscene, it's hinted that Kyle might join the Jedi Academy.

I'd like to see an expansion where Kyle joins the Jedi Academy, and have that be the last of this series. However, I think it would really be great to start up another series, during the same time period, maybe playing an apprentice at the Jedi Academy, Kyle could have cameos.
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Old 11-26-2002, 11:23 AM   #32
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why don't they make a new jedi knight game but with luke in it as the main character
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Old 11-27-2002, 10:34 AM   #33
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2. Tavion. That part was left open for an expansion.
Not necessarily... that part could've been left open for a complete sequel....


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Old 12-13-2002, 12:24 PM   #34
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Everyone keeps saying Kyle's getting too old and that it's time for him to pass the torch to Luke, but he's even older! It says so in the second book in the Dark Forces series: Rebel Agent.


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Old 12-13-2002, 10:56 PM   #35
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Very strong Jedi usually don't age the same as normal people, so age doesn't really matter.
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Old 12-14-2002, 01:38 AM   #36
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Indeed age shouldn't play any part in it. Qui-gon was in his 60's during Phantam Menace (sw age) and still a "youthful rebel". Dooku is supposed to be in his 80's during AOTC. Obi-wan dies at Vader's hand when he's @ 60. (though he looked it). I'd like to find out how old Mace is supposed to be. Think I'll go do some searching...
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Old 12-14-2002, 12:28 PM   #37
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If there's going to be another SW FPS, I'd expect it to be tied in with the prequels, probably the third and thankfully last one.
That would just be another reason for me to not to give a damn about it.

Honestly, if Jedi Outcast is any indication of the current quality standards of LEC, then I won't be touching a virtual lightsaber in a while (except for SWG or KOTOR perhaps).
I'd rather play the JO engine DF mod that'll hopefully be released next summer.


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Old 12-17-2002, 03:41 AM   #38
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JK:3 is when Kyle's future wife is a Jediess

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Old 12-17-2002, 09:02 AM   #39
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I wouldent count on it at least for another 3 years.

Actually, I'm expecting something to be announced soon, and probably shown off a little at E3 2k3


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