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Old 06-13-2003, 10:07 PM   #41
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Hi

Sorry for the lack of updates but I ve been pretty bogged down with uni/college work but the model is unwrapped ready for JP-30 just gotta weight him to the skeleton... Rocky II is on the background Im hoping it will inspire me to finish my work!!

Hellfire: I give you the model with no skins so you can give me feedback on the weigting with regards to his movement. OK by you?

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Old 06-14-2003, 02:04 AM   #42
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Very nice cant wait until its finished!

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Old 06-15-2003, 09:55 PM   #43
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Hi all

I've been working on Gollum for the last few hours and he is in game BUT! I have encountered some problems. It is due to the positions of the legs they are too far forward from the skeleton and one leg isn't attached properly well here are some screens to show ya what I mean... Also noticew the stretching of the legs as well...






I will finish or try to finish it off tomorrow so JP & Hellfire I ll be in contact soon. Until tomorrow...

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Old 06-23-2003, 04:15 PM   #44
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Man no replies in a week... Well then u ll b glad to know that he is in game and ready to be skinned... Hellfire & JP the files are winging their way to you now...

So I guess I ll be handing the thread over to JP-30 now...


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Old 06-23-2003, 04:29 PM   #45
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Sounds good


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Old 06-23-2003, 05:12 PM   #46
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sounds like you are making good progress. so were u able to fix that bug with the leg?
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Old 06-23-2003, 05:42 PM   #47
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Beta testing of this cannot take place. It crashes the game. And the pk3 is passworded.


I would like to beta test YOUR models
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Old 06-23-2003, 05:53 PM   #48
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how are you able to password a pk3 file?
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Old 06-23-2003, 07:47 PM   #49
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Ooops! Sorry Hellfire I sent the wrong file I was testing whether passworded pk3 would work... Hope I sent JP the right one, I ll resend it if thats ok

I put a password in using winzip then just changed the file name.


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Old 06-23-2003, 07:55 PM   #50
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Yep just resent it Hellfire...

TheCheat: Yeah fixed the leg but that was the least of my problems... When I finally put it in game the head & torso were back to front and the lightsaber was about a foot away from Gollum, so I had to start the whole process over plus it was my birthday over the weekend so I didn't pay much attention to it until today and now it is done... Thank god

I can at last start on my concept character for the Unreal Tornament Competition, man I need that money


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Old 06-23-2003, 08:30 PM   #51
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This is good timing. I just finished my first batch of object skins for the Dark Forces Mod .

I won't be home to check my email for 8 hours or so, but am already looking forward to getting there to have a crack...
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Old 06-25-2003, 06:14 PM   #52
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I take it the files were ok then JP? Were the skinmaps alright, that is only my third go at unwrapping models and its an area I need to improve...

Good luck I look forward to seing your work


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Old 06-25-2003, 07:25 PM   #53
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Yeah. All good. I've never skinned "from scratch" before, and with al those huge areas of flesh, it'll take a little longer than the normal ones where clothes cover most of the body.

But I've made a start, and I'll share progress as I continue.

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Old 06-25-2003, 08:16 PM   #54
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Cool, I checked my email after posting that. If you need any help or better reference you know where I am and I ll try my best to help ya out...

Try this for more pics as its got tons of good pics.


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Old 06-27-2003, 09:41 AM   #55
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OK, so I think I'll keep everyone up to date on skinning progress.

I finally got to have a good play with the model (it's awesome, Hindy).

This is just a preliminary stage where I make a collage of existing textures (his back and legs are from my Slave Leia skin), and some bits and pieces I cut out of photos (his chest, arms and face) to get everything aligned, and to work as my guide.

So PLEASE don't tell me my seams show, theres a big cross on his back, the calves suck, and that the colours are wrong etc. Again, these are preliminary guide textures!

Having said that I doubt the face will need a lot more work, it came together very well indeed.

So, anyways, here's where I'm at after my first hour or two's mucking around.



I'll let you know when there's something new to show...


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Old 06-27-2003, 02:22 PM   #56
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Hey man it looks like ya off to a solid start... I take it the maps are holding up ok!It looks as if you are following the contours of the rib cage, they are taken fron the WETA model sheet so should be quite accurate.

Also Hellfire reported the left ankle needed to be tweaked when he tested it in game, have you noticed any probs?

Look forward to your next update


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Old 06-27-2003, 03:02 PM   #57
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Also, make sure you put anim's or whatever in the hand, so taunts make hte fingers move.


I would like to beta test YOUR models
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Old 06-27-2003, 10:24 PM   #58
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Smeagol...

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Hehe, sorry. Couldn't control it. Wow... That model looks quite amazing. I'm glad people are bringing the LotR characters to JK2. Nice job and good luck on finishing him. This is a sure download.


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Old 06-27-2003, 10:25 PM   #59
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Hey man it looks like ya off to a solid start... I take it the maps are holding up ok!It looks as if you are following the contours of the rib cage, they are taken fron the WETA model sheet so should be quite accurate.
Maps are great, and yeah I'm mapping the ribs onto the contours etc.

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Also Hellfire reported the left ankle needed to be tweaked when he tested it in game, have you noticed any probs?
I haven't had the chance to view it in game as yet.

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Look forward to your next update
Probably a few days away - I have a busy weekend ahead.
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Old 06-27-2003, 11:10 PM   #60
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looks like your skinning work is up to that very high standards you have jp-30, excellent work dude


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Old 06-28-2003, 03:26 PM   #61
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Totally off topic but dunno whether you lot are aware Im gonna enter the NVIDIA Unreal Tournament Comp in the best model catergory... Well would ya like me to post me concept drawings for ya to look at?, it might plug the gap till JP-30 posts another update.


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Old 06-29-2003, 02:50 AM   #62
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Sure!

That be really great to see! We want to have something to do this weekend


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Old 06-29-2003, 04:44 AM   #63
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that would be neato to see hindy....
good luck with the comp!!!


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Old 07-08-2003, 10:39 PM   #64
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JP you still alive?

Sorry about the concept pics I was being lazy and couldn't be bothered to upload them but the model is nearly done just tweaking now so I ll post some pics soon


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Old 07-08-2003, 10:43 PM   #65
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Yeah. I've been laid up with a stomach bug for best part of last week. Got lots to catch up on work wise.

Should be seeing some major progress on the skin soon - I think I have a free weekend looming.



(ie. I'll try to get the thing close to finished before next week - at a stage where it just needs subtle tweaking pending feedback, and maybe shader work if we're going to do a near "invisible" version too).
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:49 PM   #66
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Man hope ya feeling better . There's no hurry, take your time Im sure it ll be worth it! Do you need any more refermce pics or anything?


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Old 07-08-2003, 10:51 PM   #67
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The more the merrier. Especially of his back - gotta get those boney spine protrusions just right!
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:54 PM   #68
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Your wish is my command... just got hold of a leaked dvd so I ll mail you some pics within the next day or two.


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Old 07-08-2003, 10:54 PM   #69
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wow this is looking awesome, are you gonna do more modeling with the feet?
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:56 PM   #70
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The feet'll look fine once I skin 'em.
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Old 07-08-2003, 10:57 PM   #71
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Hi no Im quite satisfied with the modeling... The feet look pretty good, it was my first stab at bare feet and they have quite a good shape. They also have a seperate big toe to make it look more foot like which Im sure JP will confirm as its not too clear in the pics.


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Old 07-08-2003, 11:16 PM   #72
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ok thanks for clearing that up, cant wait to see this model in action
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Old 07-09-2003, 12:29 PM   #73
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Hi here is the model sheet for my concept character...




And a render of her so far...



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Old 07-09-2003, 12:41 PM   #74
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Suppose I better tell ya where I coming from with this idea. Well I wanted to model a female as I hadn't modeled one before now and I wanted her to look girly but hard, so I got a really feminine face with a harsh shaven head... The face is based off the lovely Jessica Alba mostly cos of lips and eyes.

Onto the body, well that started off completly human but I felt it looked too "Lara Croft" so I began playing with mechanical parts. Below the hips is completely mechanical and so is the left arm mainly for mobility and strength. The top is skin tight to show the female form and to contrast with the mechanical parts... The leg things (whatever they are called!) are inspired from the very Western "gunslinger" look she had in her completely human form.

Ok thats it... Oh yeah she dont have a name yet! So any suggestions welcome, also Im undecided over the colour of the trouser thingy's

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Old 07-09-2003, 01:07 PM   #75
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that looks great hindy, i wish you luck in this competitions
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Old 07-15-2003, 08:21 PM   #76
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Managed to sneak in another couple of hours work on Gollum's skin last night.

Things are progressing nicely, and after my next session (hopefully this evening) I will post another WIP screenshot.

I'm aiming to have him finished sometime next week.

I could still do with a good reference picture of his back, though....
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Sorry man totally forgot about the pics! I ve been modeling a car, the above concept model and started on Princess Leia so been quite busy. I going to work now (literally) so I ll mail you tonight if I find my TTT disc as I think I lent it out.


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Old 07-17-2003, 08:50 AM   #78
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As promised, WIP shot #2. Probably ~50% done it this stage. At first glance it probably looks nearly identical to my first skin WIP shot above. But there's a lot more done, it's just sometimes not particularly obvious!

Still need to;
add more definition & detail to arms, legs, back & feet.
Ensure seams are all nicely blended.
Write transparency shader to make skirt more "ropey & dangley".

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Old 07-17-2003, 01:45 PM   #79
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Don't make it too ropey - no one wants to see his dangly.


Seriously though, nice work on the model, and good job on the skin. The skin does seem a bit light, though. JO has a tendency to lighten the color of the skins in-game, so you might want to consider making them slightly darker so that they appear correct in-game.

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looks great, you are an awesome skinner jp
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