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Old 11-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #1
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Can someone aid me on a mod project?

I'm doing a mod project, creating a new planet with some new stuff. I hope no-one will sue me for plagerism (copying someone's work), cause I'm just trying to make an impression (and good mods). Since the @$$ modder I am, I need help. I can only make new items and retextures. I can just about make a recruit mod (possibly) and dialogs and module editing. I can do the module editing, retexturing, item creation and mod design, but I need help on

Recruit Mods (I need some bases covered, and help is always welcome)

Side Quest Creation (I don't know anything 'bout it)

HEX EDITOR!!!!! I NEED SOMEONE TO DO SOME HEXING!!!!!! (optional)

Someone who can make traders

Someone who can place items indside containers

A hell of a scripter (required)

Someone who can help me place a planet in the game

And helpers on item creation, though I can do that myself, and also dialog creation. These two are to spare time. And I'm not going to take all credit from the job, of course, and I have looked at the Want to Start Kotor Modding thread, but no avail.
Any help is apprectiated.

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Old 11-02-2004, 09:30 AM   #2
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a QUOTE from my past

"I WOULD IF I COULD, BUT I CANT SO I WONT"

dont take any offence bud, im in a jam atm

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Old 11-02-2004, 09:35 AM   #3
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I would be glad to help with recruits. I have been honing my skills on that lately. In fact I've got a great idea for a area theme if you can build it I'll populate it hopefully. PM me.


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Old 11-02-2004, 11:19 PM   #4
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PrtyLizardJedi, (I like your new Avatar and Sig pics BTW!)

As far as scripts go feel free to look at the source scripts included in my ORD Mandell mod, that is why I included them, you can learn a heap from them.

Side Quest/Journal Entry Creation
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On side quest creation, the Journal Blocks and their text entries are controlled by a GFF file called the global.jrl file, and activated through Dialogues.

The global.jrl file is editable in a GFF Editor (I use Ewaldtheunimaginatives [I think thats his name] Java based one), open the file and you will find an entry list, open the global.jrl in the ORD Mandell or Jawa Shop mods I made and look at the last 3 entries, the one for RedHawke (Basic), then Warren's (This one has 2 possible LS and DS endings), and lastly Major Stygians (Basic). Just follow a similar format to what I have there when making yours and you should be good to go.

The only fields you need to concern yourself with is;

Name (CExoLocString) = This is the Name that will appear in the Journal Icon window. (For RedHawke this was simply her name)

Priority (DWord) = The sorted order the quest will be displayed from top to bottom. (I have no idea, I have used 3 & 4, you can always expiriment)

Tag (CExoString) = the refrence text to be referred to in your dialogue files Quest field.

Entry List = This is the area/tree that contains the Text description for the quest itself, and it contains on each sub-node;

> Text (CExoLocString) = This is the text you want for a particular stage in the quest. (Usually one for the initial aquisition, a possible middle one, and a completion text message) This is the part where you do some of your storytelling, the other part is in the NPC dialogues.

> ID (DWord) = This is the number (In increments of 10 starting at 10, 20, 30, etc.) that you refrence in a dialogues QuestEntry field to change the Journal Text to this particular node.

> End (DWord) = This is set to 0 this keeps the quest entry in the Active Quests window, if this is an ending entry set to a 1 so your quest will go to the Completed Quests window.

> XP_Percentage (Float) = Leave at 0.0 as I have no real Idea what this actually does, I assume you can give Xp with this, I have not tested it.

As you can see the global.jrl is where you write out your new quest so the game can display it.

When you are constructing your dialogues that affect your quest you can have one quest span several seperate dialogues.

For Example: In my recruit RedHawke Mod, the Starting Journal Entry For RedHawke is in the first recruiting dialogue, the next two entries are in the NPC story dialogue while she is in your party, and the ending entry is in the Exit dialogue.

Merchant Creation
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The script to activate a merchant is in the ORD Mandell source scripts as well (Though you will have to change the merchant tag in the script for your own use).

All you really have to do is create an NPC and a dialogue for them with a tree ending with a node that has the PC select something like "What do you have for sale?" and you attach the open merchant script at that point, with KT now having a Merchant Editor it is rediculously easy to create the actual merchant file.

With KT simply open an existing or create a Merchant .utm file for your NPC, place in the Items you want them to sell, and save the .utm.

Pack the (1)activate script, (2)the NPC .utc, (3)the NPC .dlg, (4)and the NPC .utm, plus (5)the NPC spawn script and edited game dialogue (if any) into your module or drop them into override and go in the game to your spawned or placed NPC and test it out.

Check out my Elder Rodian Merchant Mod for reference on how to do a merchant.

Both of these tasks arent really very hard, Quest Creation is just tedious, write everything out beforehand and take notes step-by-step on where you are in the quest creation process, especially what dialogue file activates what stage, this helps immensely.

I hope this helps with a couple of the things you asked about!


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Old 11-03-2004, 06:04 AM   #5
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Exclamation Deadline!!

Okay, thnx a lot RedHawke (so you're not going to sue me for plagerism?), I'll try that out.

And others, the deadline for help is 5.11.2004, so if you want to help, tell it to me soon or now. If I don't have the required jobs by that time, mission is terminated.


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Old 11-03-2004, 08:30 AM   #6
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Well Party Lizard since I can handle the bulk of all the GFF editing and many of it's aplications. It looks like All we really need is a scripter now right? Inserting the planet into scripts and 2da files should be simple. And with Redhawke's global.jrl tutorial above that should be simple as well.

You don't really think this mission is going to flop do you man?


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Old 11-03-2004, 09:47 AM   #7
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Hard to say
We'll see
Okay. We'll start at Friday, so anyone else who wants to help can post it, but I won't take new helpers after the deadline.


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Old 11-04-2004, 12:21 AM   #8
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Hard to say
We'll see
Okay. We'll start at Friday, so anyone else who wants to help can post it, but I won't take new helpers after the deadline.
why? the more the better....if there organised, otherwise its a waste of time for everyone, but to be honest, you shouldn't pressure ppl into helping you mod, you dont have to get your mod out before ... whenever, modding is meant to be fun, dont see it as a life and death situation, i've stopped modding for the time being becoz i cant get my DAMNED BLOODLY GAME TO INSTALL! but anyway, dont pressure ppl, make them feel relaxed other wise you'll be by yourself modding.

Good Luck and lets hope whatever your making works out

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Old 11-04-2004, 03:18 AM   #9
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I'll Help

I dunno, if you don't have the time for something, I could help. I made a recruit mod once, and i do know how to make merchants, but i forgot where the utm files were hidden.......

I also can do items and dialog. I could help with other things but i would need a tutorial. Have you asked Darth333 for standby script help? That would make scripts a heck of a lot easier!

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Old 11-04-2004, 05:20 AM   #10
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Because when I'd be halfway ready, someone new would come and I'd have to spend too much time telling what point we're at

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Thank you so much! With some digging around I'm sure we can find the utm.s. And it doesn't matter that you don't have Messenger. The PM System is good enough


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I cannot take part to this project but if you want me to look at your scripts as suggested by Ender Wiggin, this I can do
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:46 AM   #12
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I cannot take part to this project but if you want me to look at your scripts as suggested by Ender Wiggin, this I can do
Thank you nonetheless. I'll send you the scripts if there's something wrong with them, okay?


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Ok

That would be great! So, just for the record, Besides Me, Darth333 (sort of), and PLJ, who else is working with us????



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BTW, I'm glad we started using glows! I cant wait for mine!



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Me man Me. I'll be ready when the lizard is.

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BTW, I'm glad we started using glows! I cant wait for mine!
We have been for some time just gotta hit that 1000 posts mark, at this rate for me it may take forever.


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Me man Me. I'll be ready when the lizard is.



We have been for some time just gotta hit that 1000 posts mark, at this rate for me it may take forever.
1250 posts.

And the team includes (in alphabetical order)

darkkender
Darth333 (well, sort of)
EnderWiggin
Me (the last and the least)

Modding starts tomorrow
I'll PM you for your duties.


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