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Old 09-07-2004, 02:40 AM   #1
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Question What became of Juhani

I'm wondering what happened to Juhani?
Will she be in Kotor 2? Did she survive Kotor 1? What do you guys think?

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Old 09-07-2004, 03:30 AM   #2
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i think trask killed her on his climb to sithlord


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Old 09-07-2004, 03:42 AM   #3
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i think she's still alive, and might make a brief appearance in kotor 2
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:48 AM   #4
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i think she's still alive, and might make a brief appearance in kotor 2
unless of course she didn't survive.


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Old 09-07-2004, 05:55 AM   #5
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I have a hard time believing she survived after I stick my lightsaber through her chest...
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Well, you could have killed her esily, so I doubt the devs took the time to implement her in TSL...


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Old 09-07-2004, 08:28 AM   #7
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I hope they put her in, simply because I am sick of everybody crying over the chance of there Dark Side ending being ruined.
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:40 AM   #8
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Probably not, seeing how you get two chances to kill her in KotOR 1.


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Old 09-07-2004, 02:19 PM   #9
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You can kill her again once you allowed her into your party?


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Old 09-07-2004, 03:23 PM   #10
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You can kill her again once you allowed her into your party?
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If you choose to follow Bastila on the Temple Summit you will fight (and kill) Juhani and Jolee. Then you go back to the ship and kill some more party members
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:36 PM   #11
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I think the Dev's just want the cat women dead.


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Old 09-07-2004, 05:20 PM   #12
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You can kill her again once you allowed her into your party?
I didn't, but I was really, really mean!
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:29 PM   #13
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Re: What became of Juhani

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Will she be in Kotor 2?
If a kath hounds got the ****'s.... then yeah she'll be around. Unless the devs decide it's more trouble than it's worth, then no.

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Old 09-07-2004, 06:54 PM   #14
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I hope she isn't. Others may disagree, but I found her pretty useless...I didn't use her (if I even spared her) until the
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She usually ends up dying at the first chance I get


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Old 09-07-2004, 08:36 PM   #15
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I hope they implement her into the game, but she only shows up for a cameo if you ended KOTOR LS, and she was alive. Of course you will have to relay this information to the game in the early game "what happened in your KOTOR" dialogue options.

I hope they do that with quite a few of the NPC's from KOTOR, that can and will, add a ton of replayability into the game.


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Old 09-08-2004, 01:42 AM   #16
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She thanked me once for saving her on TARIS, so I think that she wanted to go to one planet, but actually got outside the known galaxy. She has to have her own ship though, I would never let her fly the Hawk.
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I guess that's gonna be one of the best things in TSL, see who is still around, and what happened to them ever since...


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Old 09-08-2004, 04:40 AM   #18
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I hope they do that with quite a few of the NPC's from KOTOR, that can and will, add a ton of replayability into the game.
which might also cause us to play the first kotor over again and again ...


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Old 09-08-2004, 07:34 AM   #19
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Juhani will probably be a jedi master as you could see, how much Juhani admired the jedi way and I doubt that Bioware wants to ruin Juhani's dream.


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Except that BioWare won't be responsible


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Old 09-08-2004, 07:59 PM   #21
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which might also cause us to play the first kotor over again and again ...
Exactly!

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I doubt that Bioware wants to ruin Juhani's dream.
Bioware??? Bioware isn't making KOTOR:TSL???

Obsidian is making KOTOR:TSL.

Unless Obsidian has just been fooling with us all this time.


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Old 09-09-2004, 01:09 AM   #22
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Wink Come on guys!

Come on guys Juhani is a hole lot better
than the king of all crybabies, Carth!

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Re: Come on guys!

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Come on guys Juhani is a hole lot better
than the king of all crybabies, Carth!

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Actually, niether really bothered me that much. The only think that seriously put me on edge were the selkath.
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:00 AM   #24
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Actually, niether really bothered me that much. The only think that seriously put me on edge were the selkath.

Tell me about it! Their dialogue seamed to go on forever!

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Old 09-09-2004, 07:05 AM   #25
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Yeah, all that bubbling and sound effects really took their sweet time with my nerves


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Old 09-09-2004, 12:52 PM   #26
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I liked Juhani pretty much but I doubt she will make an appearance in TSL, even if they said that the game would take into consideration how you played Kotor 1.

As for the Selkaths, I removed the sound file reference from the "security doors" dlg when you arrive on Manaan. It was driving me nuts (especially since I used to test some of my mods on the republic officer that greets you there).
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As for the Selkaths, I removed the sound file reference from the "security doors" dlg when you arrive on Manaan.
I'll have to look again. I tried to find it the other night but was unable. Might have had something to do with the fact it was 4 in the morning
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I'll have to look again. I tried to find it the other night but was unable. Might have had something to do with the fact it was 4 in the morning
It must have been 4 am ... since the half of the dialogues in the module manm26ad are 2 line door dialogs with the horrible selkath voices:
man26ad_door01.dlg
man26_exit7.dlg
man26_exit6.dlg
man26_exit5.dlg
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man26_enter7.dlg
man26_enter6.dlg
man26_enter5.dlg
man26_enter4.dlg I removed the sound resref and set the dlgs to skippable...what a relief for my ears...

Erm...getting a little off-topic but couldn't resist...anyways, I hope there won't be too many selkath in TSL...I think I would prefer to see Juhani resuscitate...
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Sweet info Darth333, you should release it as a Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod, it would be a top download I'll wager!

As far as Juhani is concerned, she is all right, I guess... she had the right voice but, they could have made her a little more feline looking, especially in the head model, more prominate feline features would have been nice, like the ears, a big hair thing going on, that would have been nice.

If we do conditionally, pending KOTOR's outcome, see Juhani and some of the other NPC's in TSL that will just mean Obsidian went all out while making TSL. To me that is a good and noble thing.

Just another 2 cents.


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Sweet info Darth333, you should release it as a Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod, it would be a top download I'll wager!
Agrees. That would be the greatest mod since..........hmmmm... It'd be really great!!!

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Old 09-10-2004, 06:39 AM   #31
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ok then, I'll release it this evening at Holowan labs when I get home It's all done so all I need to do is to zip it

...and thanks for the title Redhawke: "Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod" You'll be in the credits for this one
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ok then, I'll release it this evening at Holowan labs when I get home It's all done so all I need to do is to zip it

...and thanks for the title Redhawke: "Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod" You'll be in the credits for this one
Yeah, definitely was the 4am things because I don't even recognize any of those dialog names

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Woot! Thanks for that. No more fishy food for me.
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ok then, I'll release it this evening at Holowan labs when I get home It's all done so all I need to do is to zip it
Cool!

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...and thanks for the title Redhawke: "Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod" You'll be in the credits for this one
Thanks!


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Manaan Selkath Door Relief Mod

Here it is: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=135521
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Old 09-12-2004, 08:01 PM   #36
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Well its kinda hard to belive she will be in it because shes an optional character.


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Well its kinda hard to belive she will be in it because shes an optional character.
Well since OE is writing it so that the way you answer some questions at the beginning of the game will determine which characters from KotOR appear, I don't think it will be that difficult at all.

Just my 2 cents.
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I have to agree with Achillies. Spawning an NPC with a script, fired from a dialogue, pending a certain set global variable isn't that difficult at all.

So Juhani and some of the others are probable for cameos in TSL, pending how KOTOR went that is.


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Old 09-15-2004, 04:51 PM   #39
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I have to agree with Achillies. Spawning an NPC with a script, fired from a dialogue, pending a certain set global variable isn't that difficult at all.

So Juhani and some of the others are probable for cameos in TSL, pending how KOTOR went that is.
If she is not coming back...we can take care of this

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If she is not coming back...we can take car of this
*Nods in agreement*

True... very true.


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