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Old 11-01-2003, 12:19 AM   #1
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Matrix Effects in Episode III

I heard on tv the other day on tv that they might use new kinds of effects in episode 3 similar to the matrix with slowdowns during the major fight sequences. i hope this is not true as it would ruin the movie in my opinion but i was just wondering if anybody else had heard it or what you think

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Old 11-01-2003, 12:26 AM   #2
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I have heard only one thing simlar to what you said it is a fighting seen where Obi Wan fights Anikan like with the sparks flying around and every thing but thats the only thing that I heard of thats matches what your saying.
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Old 11-01-2003, 05:38 AM   #3
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No, just NO! If GL does include this then he really HAS lost his touch...
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I don't know how yet but I feel this somehow has to be the NJO's fault.
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:08 AM   #7
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stop bashing NJO!!!!!!

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I know how much you dispise NJO, and at times I do think what a load of ####. Usually the NJO books are good.


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NOOOOOOO!!!! dont use matrix effects it is Star Wars not Matrix



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Old 11-01-2003, 08:26 AM   #8
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NOOOOOOO!!!! dont use matrix effects it is Star Wars not Matrix
I agree with that, it would be stupid, it would show that GL can't think of smething special to put in a big fight scene.





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Old 11-01-2003, 09:21 PM   #9
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yea i agree, it doesnt show any originality using effects made famous by somebody else. instead he should create his new, totally awesome effect.
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Old 11-02-2003, 12:02 AM   #10
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Can't they just make the movies like the old ones? Same music and feeling?

When I see a scene from Ep1 or Ep2, I think ''Would that fit into RotJ, ANH, or tESB?''

My answer is always NO. Please do insert feelings and emotions into Star Wars battles and movies. All I saw in Ep2 was Anakin slashing like some little agressive pointless noobie.

Think of the saber duels in the old movies... You'll know what I mean.


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Old 11-02-2003, 01:34 AM   #11
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Indeed.

The fight scenes in the OT had a lot more dialogue and emotion. Although both the most famous fight scenes of the PT are very cool, they show basically no emotion.
Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon and Obi has a good excuse for not having any emotions(except Qui-Gon's death) but the fights in AotC have no good excuse.


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Old 11-03-2003, 02:05 PM   #12
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It's not like The Matrix films are the first ever to use slow motion, they just have some of the most effective slow mo. sequences.


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Old 11-11-2003, 06:37 AM   #13
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I am a fan of the matrix and i think that any effects taken from the matrix would be a bad idea. It's Star Wars dont use matrix effects.



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Old 11-11-2003, 06:43 AM   #14
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If anything the Matrix Copied Starwars....although I don't really care to ellaborate on that.


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Old 11-11-2003, 06:52 AM   #15
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Plez explan how the matrix copied star wars, im confused



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Old 11-11-2003, 08:55 AM   #16
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Well the Matrix, IMHO, does copy loads of stuff from great Sci-Fi and Action movies.

It wouldn't be good if SW was "Matrix-ifyed"
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Old 11-11-2003, 09:45 AM   #17
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Neo = The One vs Darth Vader = The Chosen One

Both will bring BALANCE

Trinity the ass kicking girlfriend = Leia and Padme also Ass Kicking Girl Friends

Morpheus reminds me a lot of Qui Gon

The Councel = both films

that's just some things that I can think of off the top of my head


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Old 11-11-2003, 01:18 PM   #18
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okay you have a point but they are a bit loose



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Old 11-11-2003, 01:37 PM   #19
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Morpheus reminds me a lot of Qui Gon
nah, Morpheus is mace windu

also..

the oracle is yoda and niobe is han solo

and they're both fighting against oppression
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Old 11-11-2003, 07:46 PM   #20
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Actually, both movies are using basic heroes and villains so it really can't be a true rip-off or copying. So maybe it was inspired but not copied.


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Old 11-12-2003, 08:08 AM   #21
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i think its safe to say that both movies were heavily inspired by other movies/books/mythology
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Old 11-13-2003, 06:25 AM   #22
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I agree with you there siv. Just watch some manga to see clips that could be from the matrix



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Old 11-13-2003, 12:56 PM   #23
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No, No, NO boys...people really just give their impresssions on life, their interpretation...Geroge Lucas in Star Wars is givving his philosophy on life...look at how he uses the force? The force to George Lucas, is prorbably somethiiin like The Holy Spirit, or Kharam, or destiny (not that thithis things are similar..they are very unique) but in Star Wars..its the force and george lucas like the storyboard of Star Wars has modelled real life things in a way. The force is kinda off what Khrama wud be if we cud use it to move objects through the air.


Mythology, fiction, novels all these things their authors give their intepretation or point of view of life...but i agree with someone who made an important distinction...other works may inspire them. ANyway i should mention tho that in corporate world when an idea works everyone copies and adapts it to their own setting to cash in. George Lucas Star Wars thingy worked in 1977 everyone copied it.. most blockbuster have something similar to Star Wars in terms of a formular. i.e. a Hero from unfortunate background a menacing empire or organisation..its classic and its been repeated through out human history and makes its imprint in human literature and fiction
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Old 11-14-2003, 12:23 PM   #24
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Hrm, Epi.III with Matrix effects, only if Palpatine at the end reveals himself to be in fact.... Agent Smith XD

*cough* All kidding aside, no, rather not see that happen.
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:27 AM   #25
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I'm pretty sure it well not happen becuse it is simply like this they will not have Matrix effects on Ep3 becuse the main reason they did that was beacuse of major gun shooting sences were you can see the bullets breaking the sound bearer which don't get me wrong is awesome but it comes out plain simply like this the won't do that when the guns that are in star wars shoot lasers and thats my stroy and I'm sticking to so people please would you drop it.
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Old 11-15-2003, 06:19 PM   #26
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Well the Matrix effects look really good.

I think we are all a bit disappointed that Star Wars effects just seem not too wow us as the likes of the Matrix and Kill BIll (which i'm sure a lot of u aren't old enough to see ... We wouldnt want persay the Matrix effects in Star Wars ideally...but we want something that is better than we've seen and on the same par or better than what we've seen in the Matrix and other special effects martial arts films.
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Old 11-15-2003, 06:22 PM   #27
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I think the main problem with Star Wars is that the feats the Jedi do really aren't that impressive when compared to Matrix and Kill Bill where much more impressive looking things are done.

If i hadn't read Shatterpoint, to b honest i'd think the Jedi abilities were a bit tame, and thats b/c Mr Lucas i think tried too hard not to over-emphasize their abilities, and so ended up weaken their ability.

Read Shatterpoint --- and if they could present teh action scenes narrated there...it would be even more impressive than the Matrix etc
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Old 11-15-2003, 10:33 PM   #28
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Dam you people don't you know that the lightsaber techniches are not tame they just seem that way to us now becuse of the Matrix the thing is look at it this way THE STAR WARS SERIS US OUT BEFORE EVEN THE FRIST MATRIX and back then the few people with lightsabers in the old seris did not even have special techniches they would most of the time twirl around and start hacking at each other but people loved it any way becuse it was the frist time they have even seen any thing like it but now when ever a sci-fci movie comes out we have to compare it to the Matrix it simply comes down to this the Matrix is the Matrix and Star Wars is Star Wars ok.
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Old 11-16-2003, 11:10 AM   #29
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Oh we know that, and we agree...but with staying in the past, I DO NOT

WE want Star Wars to be even more amazing, and at the moment it looks a bit tame and not at the cutting edge, a standard we've comin to expect of Star Wars and wish to remain...i know its not all action and everything...but the way i understand the force, the Jedi can be a lot more impressive

Progress is the word, read shatterpoint... thats more like it.
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Old 11-17-2003, 12:55 AM   #30
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I think what is missing in a lot of action scenes today is a deep emotional element that serves to give the showy action on the screen a purpose. In the classic trilogy, the lightsaber battles were fantastic not because they had state-of-the-art choreography but because they had a feeling, a purpose behind them and the characters in the fight, which I feel is sort of lacking in many of today's top movies (w/ exception of LOTR). If Lucas can put more of this emotional element into Episode III, then I think he's got a winner.
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