New Sith

ninja · 08-08-2003, 05:27 PM

heres a rumor, but i knew this to happen anyway. there will be another sith, maybe more than one. i gotta admit it sounded weird, but i stay open minded. http://www.darkworlds.com/ls/art_8523.html

Jedi_Monk · 08-09-2003, 02:15 AM

I'd personally love to see Stewart in a Star Wars film because he's a fantastic actor. But I wouldn't give this rumor the time of day.

***Lynk Former*** · 08-09-2003, 02:19 AM

no way the only new sith will be Anakin remember there are always two, a master and an apprentice, no more.

**coupes.** · 08-09-2003, 04:47 AM

yeah, but it's a dead sith...

I also think this isn't gonna happen, we would have at least see his name in the cast list, wouldn't we?

Eldritch · 08-09-2003, 12:53 PM

I'm inclined to disbelieve the rumor for a simple reason: in Episode 1, there is a short bit of dialogue that goes something like this:

Ki-Adi Mundi: Impossible! The Sith have been extinct for a millenium...
Mace Windu: I do not believe the Sith could have returned without us knowing.

A millenium, as you all know, is 1000 years. The rumor stated "Darth Vicious" (lol, whata name) was defeated by the combined might of the Jedi Council 40 years before. A powerful foe isn't so easily forgotten, methinks.
The whole rumor just smells like "fanboy" to me.

ninja · 08-09-2003, 04:43 PM

but hey you gotta admit it sounds cool though. but nobody can be 100% sure whats gonna happen.

Eldritch · 08-09-2003, 08:10 PM

Actually, it sounds retarded (which was kind of my point).

Nobody can be 100% sure, but if GL does things like he's been doing them, he won't introduce a new (and completely unnecessary) character in Episode III.

ninja · 08-10-2003, 05:14 PM

well what i mean is, alot of people like the idea of new characters. i'm pritty sure they might do that. about the rumor i posted i'm not sure.

wassup · 08-10-2003, 08:26 PM

Palpatine's mentor was Darth Imperius (sp?) according to EU, I believe...(or was it just some made-up rumor?)

boinga1 · 08-10-2003, 09:30 PM

Yes, there is a new Sith...his name is Darth Vader!

Eldritch · 08-10-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by ninja
well what i mean is, alot of people like the idea of new characters. i'm pritty sure they might do that. about the rumor i posted i'm not sure.

It'd really go against GL's style to introduce a new IMPORTANT character in this, the last movie.

If you watch the special features on the DVDs from Ep1&2, you'll realize that he'll introduce an important new character but not give him much screen time in an earlier movie (like Mace in Ep1) but then use him more in a following movie.

@wassup - EU doesn't matter when you're talking about the movies.

The Cheat · 08-13-2003, 12:12 AM

maybe aayla secura will be a major character

JerAir · 08-13-2003, 08:29 PM

It certainly make the movie more interesting.... but I guess we have to wait until it comes out.

ckcsaber · 08-14-2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Eldritch
It'd really go against GL's style to introduce a new IMPORTANT character in this, the last movie.

If you watch the special features on the DVDs from Ep1&2, you'll realize that he'll introduce an important new character but not give him much screen time in an earlier movie (like Mace in Ep1) but then use him more in a following movie.
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Not really.

Count Dooku was not even mentioned in Episode 1, so it is not out of Lucas' current "style" to bring in a new character.

It actually makes a lot of sense to have Palpatine communicate with this dead Sith Master. As most of you know, Episode 3 is only 2 years after AotC, giving Palpatine little time to train a new Sith apprentice. Seeking help from his old Master for advice or guidance seems completely feasible, especially since he must complete Anakin's turn to the Dark Side.

But this is still a rumor, a very vague rumor, so I would not place my bets on this at all, but would certainly not call it "retarted".

Eldritch · 08-14-2003, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by ckcsaber
But this is still a rumor, a very vague rumor, so I would not place my bets on this at all, but would certainly not call it "retarted".

Dooku did not have to be mentioned in Episode 1 to be 'brought in' because he would be in Episode 2 & 3. If Lucas follows form, Dooku is likely to have a more expanded role in Episode 3.

But in Episode 3, it would make little sense to bring in an entirely new and important character, because he would also have to "explain him away" since Palpatine's mentor isn't seen in the OT.

I would say it goes against what he's established already, so to me, it's retarded.

wassup · 08-15-2003, 12:32 AM

TheForce.Net Episode III section have been posting a bunch of interesting spoilers.

spoiler:
Christopher Lee can't like this - his character dies within 10 minutes of the opening crawl of Episode III. No word on who's hand he falls by but he isn't needed long for filming since he doesn't play a significant role. In fact, the veteran actor is already finished filming with the exception of some pickup shots later next year though his new digital double is certain to be getting a workout.

spoiler:
The bad guy in Episode III will carry two lightsabers. On an unrelated note, there is a scene where we see Darth Vader getting his name and what it means.

We will just have to wait and see how Lucas handles the changes/additions...

*Please post potential spoiler comments in tags.*

The Cheat · 08-15-2003, 01:54 AM

wow i hadnt heard that

spoiler:
i wonder how he will fall so quickly

ninja · 08-15-2003, 02:25 AM

lol to be honest there was new characters we never seen before until another movie comes out. maybe they are not new becuase they were all part of the story. think of the scout troopers we never saw them until episode 6 came out. i can name many others. and i never said anything about having a new "important" character. a new character/characters would be pritty awsome. shoot who knows there could be a new bounty hunter? there sure was plenty of those around.

lets stay open minded and stop bashing people. i never made up this rumor so theres no need to feel threatend. dooku obviosly is gonna die. i mean the movie is so secretive right?. so there leads some interesting twists. sure we all know anny's gonna be vader. and kill all the jedi. now by just hearing that, and if i was'nt a star wars fan i'de just forget watching it. what i mean is if we all know basicly whats gonna happen in the movie, the movie should'nt be so top secret dont you think? so that means theres gonna be new additions. shoot as a star wars fan i hope to see that.

ckcsaber · 08-15-2003, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by Eldritch
Dooku did not have to be mentioned in Episode 1 to be 'brought in' because he would be in Episode 2 & 3. If Lucas follows form, Dooku is likely to have a more expanded role in Episode 3.

Well, Jabba was unseen during ANH and ESB (originals), but was brought in RotJ with only a vague reference by Han in ANH.

This rumored character does not even seem to have a large role, and I doubt it would take much "explanation" to justify his appearance. It sounds as if this character will be guiding Sidious, just as Obi-Wan guided Luke.

ninja · 08-15-2003, 03:38 PM

yeah maybe he acts as an avisor to over throw the republic. who knows lol

The Cheat · 08-15-2003, 03:49 PM

it all sounds kind of strange having a sith appear as a ghost, i dont see it happening but who knows

ninja · 08-15-2003, 04:22 PM

why would it sound strange? so i guess yoda, obi, and vader were strange too?

hey it would be cool if dooku had a new look. more evil looking lol.

The Cheat · 08-15-2003, 08:40 PM

i just thought that good guys became ghosts, not bad guys but we will see

*Sivy* · 08-22-2003, 07:55 AM

in regards of dooku's death

spoiler:
well if the clone war ends at the begining of Ep III then it makes sense if dooku dies 10 minutes into it as that would pretty much end the war.

as to this rumor.. its an interesting one but i don't think it will happen. and to be honest i don't think i would want to see it.

Just Darth · 08-28-2003, 11:38 AM

That set is the most watched set of all time... GL even has a webcam set up so ppl can pay to watch the filming! If Patrick Stewart showed up one day, there'd be a huge commotion, even outside the Star Wars community. It would represent the bridging of two great cult classics: Star Wars and Star Trek, each with millions of fans. Look at the commotion when Temeira Morrisson (sp?) showed up (Jango Fett).

wassup · 09-02-2003, 03:34 AM

I dunno if Patrick Stewart can look evil enough to be a Sith. Anybody seen any movies where he was the bad guy?

*On a side note, I am finding it amusing that almost everyone (including me) is using spoiler tags in a "spoilers allowed" forum.

Crow_Nest · 09-02-2003, 10:38 AM

Hey, its that guy from star trek!

ninja · 09-03-2003, 05:02 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wassup
[B]I dunno if Patrick Stewart can look evil enough to be a Sith. Anybody seen any movies where he was the bad guy?

actually your wrong on that one. here are some nice photos of pat playing the role of a borg. your gonna love these lol.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/st/gallery...glocutus03.jpg

http://startrek.dialcom.com.pl/images/borg6.jpg

http://www.filmszene.de/videodvd/sta...tnglocutus.jpg

http://v2.rl.ac.uk/DELPHI/Adye/picard1.gif

***Lynk Former*** · 09-03-2003, 06:52 PM

When he played Captain Ahab in Moby Dick he looked pretty nutz but not evil.............................

wassup · 09-06-2003, 05:26 AM

Hehe nice pics ninja!

A Borg Sith!

j/k

jedispy · 09-14-2003, 09:27 PM

Patrick Stewart played the bad guy in Conspiracy Theory. He was so evil that you just hate him.

He also played the bad guy in some children's movie. I didn't waste the time seeing it since it was an automatic bomb. (I can't remember the name of the movie.)

Jedispy

Jedi_Monk · 09-14-2003, 09:50 PM

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He also played the bad guy in some children's movie. I didn't waste the time seeing it since it was an automatic bomb. (I can't remember the name of the movie.)

I think you're talking about Masterminds, which is actually a very good movie. I think the plot's something about terrorists taking over a prep school and holding its students for ransom. I recommend it.

jedispy · 09-15-2003, 02:15 AM

I will take your word on it.

Jedispy

**coupes.** · 09-15-2003, 03:02 AM

Here, let's put an end to this discussion or rather let's bring some new life in it...

The new bad guy we now all know will be in ep3 will NOT be a sith, I repeat, he will NOT be a sith nor will he be a jedi traitor. He WILL however weild two lightsabers at the same time at one point.

So who do you think could be this new bad guy...

Crow_Nest · 09-15-2003, 06:01 AM

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So who do you think could be this new bad guy...

Dunno.

***Lynk Former*** · 09-15-2003, 11:35 AM

i dunno... maybe a certain darth vader

Jedi_Monk · 09-15-2003, 09:25 PM

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i dunno... maybe a certain darth vader

Couldn't be because Anakin is both a "Jedi traitor" and a "Sith". Not a past-Jedi, nor a Sith... maybe it's some Separatist guy Dooku found out could use the Force so he taught him just enough to use a couple sabers.

ninja · 09-16-2003, 05:23 AM

POSSIBLE SPOILER!!! a new bounty hunter might be in the next movie. he's part of the clone wars saga. for now he is in the comic books, toys, and up comming animated shorts on cartoon network comming sometime soon. i see this new cartoon series as a whole big spoiler. here is some pics and stuff. you were warned! and you can follow the links to find out more on this stuff. http://www.starwars.com/collecting/n...s20030311.html

http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2003...s20030220.html

"oh and the new sith will be here another spoiler! http://www.geocities.com/kwenn7/ventress.html

TheDemonSnake · 09-16-2003, 01:19 PM

*Sivy* · 09-16-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by ninja
POSSIBLE SPOILER!!! a new bounty hunter might be in the next movie. he's part of the clone wars saga. for now he is in the comic books, toys, and up comming animated shorts on cartoon network comming sometime soon. i see this new cartoon series as a whole big spoiler. here is some pics and stuff. you were warned! and you can follow the links to find out more on this stuff. http://www.starwars.com/collecting/n...s20030311.html

http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2003...s20030220.html

"oh and the new sith will be here another spoiler! http://www.geocities.com/kwenn7/ventress.html

i don't know about that.
as far as i know, GL didn't write any of the animated shorts and its not like him to include anything in the films which he didn't make up. but you never know