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Old 01-30-2004, 12:02 AM   #1
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New Armor for Exar Kun

[EDIT] there is finally a host for the armor. here is a link to the files as they exist right now. a slight re-skinning project is in mind as well, but check out the stats of the armor and share your opinions. here's the link (and a very big THANK YOU to Shimaon for hosting the files):

http://www.gknetworks.net/kotor/Exar_sArmor.zip

okay, first of all it looks the same. i loved the look just thought the stats were fairly laughable.

so i created two versions of it myself. both are UPGRADABLE. i made one for early in the game, so things wouldn't be TOO easy running around with a super bad@ss armor. which would bring me to my second armor. now titles as Exar Kun's Battle Armor. trust me you won't find any other in-game armor as good as this.

i gave these items to myself using the override folder and the holowan emporium. both arnors override the original armor for exar kun. so you pretty much would have to buy one of them, save, exit, swap the files in the override folder, load the game and get the other one. files in your inventory are NOT overriden by item overrides. only new items, such as those in stores, or found along the way are affected by item files in your override folder.

now as to why i started this thread. i have seen many people, who liked exar kun as much as myself and thought the poor stats of his armor insulting. so i figured why should all exar kun fans be disappointed.

so if some nice person wants to host these two mods on their site then i would be forever grateful. otherwise, if you would like the armor, leave your email, or pm me with your email, and i will send it to you.

i really don't know how many people will truly be interested in these, i just know i had seen some posts reflecting the same disappointment i had in his armor.

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Old 01-30-2004, 12:12 AM   #2
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Cool...

I agree that his armor needed new stats. I am also working on reskinning it, because for some reason I did not like the copper color of the armor for Exar Kun. I liked the look of the armor itself, I just do not think it fit Exar Kun's personality and look.


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Old 01-30-2004, 12:16 AM   #3
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actually the reason i liked it was because it did fit exar kun. if you look at the avatar to the left, that is a pic of exar kun in his armor. they did a VERY good job of making the armor look like something he did wear or would have worn. i know he was a sith lord. but NOT the stock character sith lord, in all black with a red saber. and that's what made him so great in my opinion. he was not the stock villian. and the brown/neutral/tan/copper, whatever color you want to call it, fits his character perfectly.
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:22 AM   #4
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Well, I agree with you about the character itself, but I have not seen a picture of Exar Kun wearing Copper-colored armor before. Every picture I have seen of Kun, he wore silver or black armor.


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Old 01-30-2004, 12:36 AM   #5
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well the pic i have came straight from the comics. i'll email it to you if you like, as the actual image is much bigger than the avatar.
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:08 AM   #6
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Well, I have seen that picture of him before, I just assumed it was the lighting that did that. Anyways, how big is the file to be hosted-I might be able to host it temporarily on my angelfire site.


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Old 01-30-2004, 01:22 AM   #7
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altogether, in one folder, it is a whopping 64 KB. as by the size on disk reference anyway. the actual size is 5.25 KB. so zipped up pretty small.

and by the way, though i love exar kun, i tend to still lean towards the lightside. so the pic i have is probably either shortly before, or shortly after his fall. i am sure his armor became more darkside oriented as time passed. but bioware's representation of it was fairly close to what it originally was.

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Old 01-30-2004, 01:27 AM   #8
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I will host the file-at that size it is no problem. I just hope too many people don't hit it too fast, otherwise angelfire will suspend the download temporarily. Send it to StrykeAzrael@aol.com


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Old 01-30-2004, 01:55 AM   #9
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i will email it to you as soon as i can figure out what the original baseitems.2da defense rating for this item is. i edited mine, and as i just clean-sweeped my main hard drive, have yet to install kotor again. i would like anyone downloading this to get at LEAST the same item i had. so if i upped anything in my baseitems.2da, then they would be getting less than what i intended the armor to be.
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:05 AM   #10
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I sent a reply, but I can post it here as well. The base ac for any class 6 armor is 6. The class number that the armor has corresponds to its base ac.


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Old 01-30-2004, 02:13 AM   #11
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okay. i'm getting ready to send it to you. i included a readme with instructions. first time i've distributed anything i've done.

do me a favor and test it out, and see if everything looks and works alright. if you don't find any bugs, post alink for the download. if you do find bugs, email me and let me know.
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:34 AM   #12
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Just a fast question before I post it. It worked fine, but I am just making sure. The only difference between the 2 armors is the defense bonus, correct? Just making sure because the "weaker" version is the same, just with a lower def bonus.


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Old 01-30-2004, 02:40 AM   #13
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well, there is a huge difference once the armor is upgraded. did you upgrade both? if so, and you did not see the bonuses added for the one with the higher defense bonus let me know. i may have to install kotor again over the weekend if not.
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:43 AM   #14
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Old 01-30-2004, 02:47 AM   #15
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Oh, I was talking about non-upgraded. The upgraded ones have the different bonuses and seem to work fine. So, with that said, this link *should* work.

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/stryke/Exar_sArmor.zip


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Old 01-30-2004, 02:56 AM   #16
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as said in the first post, the armor looks no different than exar kun's light battle suit. since i personally liked the look of that armor and felt it a very good representation of exar's armor (before his long trek down the dark path as stryker and i have discussed). if people want to re-skin it, that's up to them.

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Old 01-30-2004, 06:48 PM   #17
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thnaks alot for hosting the items. i appreciate it. as i said before, i'm not too sure how much interest this will actually generate. but i saw no reason to just leave it sitting on my hard drive.

anyone with any opinions feel free to share.
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Old 01-30-2004, 08:06 PM   #18
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Well, between the 2 mods I had on my site, angelfire stopped the downloads because of too many people downloading. So, we need to find someone else to host this now. I was afraid it would happen. I am really sorry about this-thats why i was worried about it when i offered to host it. Does anyone have a site they can host like 2 mods on?


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Old 01-30-2004, 09:09 PM   #19
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Cool Guy

I dont have a site to host that stuff on but I would like to cheat and have one of you email me that Exar Kun armor... If you dont mind please send it to eugcheradm@socket.net

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Old 01-30-2004, 09:14 PM   #20
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I sent the armor to you Jolinar, should be there soon.


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Old 01-30-2004, 09:39 PM   #21
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thanks alot stryker. for the attempt, and for keeping up with the posts as well. i do appreciate it.
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:46 AM   #22
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I just tried to download the Exar Armor myself and got the, "This site you attempted to access violated the Terms of Service, blah blah blah" message. I gathered that there were a lot of downloads off your site for it Stryker. If you wouldn't mind until another site is found sending them over to incoming@adelphia.net I would be grateful.

Oh BTW in anyone's time playing through KotOR did they try the dancedancemalak cheat? Truly worth it I think!
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:39 AM   #23
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Hey guys, send it over to me at webmaster@gknetworks.net and I'll host it on my site for ya, I'd love to see this myself as well.
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Old 01-31-2004, 05:07 AM   #24
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sent and sent. i really appreciate the offer to host the file. feel free to put it up and post a link for it somewhere in the thread.

and any of you out there who have tried it out at all, let me know what you think. i know it's a minor mod, but i wouldn't mind a little feedback.
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Old 01-31-2004, 07:50 AM   #25
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Cant wait, can anyone e-mail to me plz
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Old 01-31-2004, 12:14 PM   #26
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your armor has been sent. here's hoping for a nice little link at the end of the thread soon.
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Old 01-31-2004, 12:38 PM   #27
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I allways tought that Jedi/Sith don't wear armour - too restrictive...

I mean, the only thing that keeps Cath, Canderous and other non-Jedi on pair with Jedi charachers in the group IS their heavy armour ability (and kick-ass long range fighting)


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Old 01-31-2004, 12:55 PM   #28
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sigh. i suggest everyone stop stereotyping things into nice neat little categories. if a jedi decided to wear armor, then he could wear armor. whether it was common for them to or not.

it said in-game, that exar kun was rarely seen wiothout a suit of armor and this is true.

and since the first sith lord ever introduced was darth vader, and he was always armored as well, why is this a big surprise. and not to mention that there really are NO armor restricted force powers. this was merely an in-game balancing feature. did anyone see vader having any problems using force powers in armor.

anyway, if for some reason a jedi decided to wear armor, there would be absolutely nothing stopping him from doing so. there are no rules concerning this.

STOP applying in-game logic and reasoning to an already existent Star Wars Universe. Exar kun came around long before this game or any other RPG game rules for Star Wars.

if armor would help common soldiers stand up against jedi, (which outside of the game would be rather ineffective in doing so anyway) why would a jedi not want the extra benefits of having such armor as well. the Star Wars Universe outside this game, is NOT interested in a complete and total balancing of all of its character classes.
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Old 01-31-2004, 03:54 PM   #29
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Many, these guys are gonna flip in episode three when we see a bad jedi using a blue lightsaber and there will be a yellow lightsaber as well as yoda fighting alongside wookiees. Not even to mention Sidious using his lightsaber...

And that is just the stuff that has been confirmed on the official site (I am a hyperspace member)


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Old 01-31-2004, 04:09 PM   #30
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good, i hope they continue to do away with the stereotypes. exar kun used a bright blue/white lightsaber. very similar to the blue special crystal from yavin.
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Old 01-31-2004, 06:22 PM   #31
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The armor is pretty good, the only thing I donít like about it (and most the armor in the game) is that pants and the sleeves. They just look odd to me; I think it has something to do with the strips. I call for new pants and sleeves! *cracks whip* Get to it!

Anyway I'm a fan of Exar Kun myself although I donít know much about him. Also it does hint that Exar Kun may have used that Guardian of the Force crystal in it's description. Oh one question though, I have seen some conflicting information on Exar Kun. What style of lightsaber did he use?

I have read from two places he used a double bladed blue lightsaber but most of the pictures I have seen have him using ether a single bladed blue or green saber.

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Old 01-31-2004, 06:29 PM   #32
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In fact, Kun had 3 sabres. His first was a single-bladed green lightsabre. Later, he built a single-bladed blue lightsabre, but then he made that into a double-bladed blue sabre. Originally his double-bladed blue sabre was the length of a normal single bladed sabre, but eventually it was made longer, almost like Darth Maul's double-bladed sabre, but just a few inches (approx) shorter.


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Old 01-31-2004, 07:13 PM   #33
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Thats a bit misleading. he didn't "have 3 lightsabers" but over the course of his life owned 3. I don't know what happened to his first, but the second one he built into his double-bladed one.

Exar Kun, up until Episode 1 came along(and ruined everything), was the only Jedi/Dark Jedi to ever use a double bladed lightsaber.

The lightsaber had a few interesting characteristics. The blade lengths could be adjucted from 1/2 meter to 1 1/2 meters. It's intesity could also be modified. At it's highest setting it was like any other lightsaber, at it's lowest, it was a thin shaft of light that delivered no damage and could not block incomming lightsaber attacks. The use of this was to trick his opponents into over extending their attacks (by suddenly shortening the blade length or lowering it's intesity) and giving him the opportunity for a very deadly counter-attack

An iteresting fact, Ulic Qel-Droma (Qel-Droma's robes anyone?), a former diciple for Exar Kun, actually led the Jedi, and the Republic, to victory againt Exar Kun at his main fortess on Yavin 4. His lightsaber, and many other artifacts, were destroyed.
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Old 01-31-2004, 07:33 PM   #34
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just because he was the first notable character to use a double-bladed lighsaber does NOT mean he was the only one to ever use one. in fact it states that he constructed his double-bladed lightsaber as a tribute to sith masters from the past. he was DEFINITLEY NOT the first to use one, and certainly wasn't the last.

it is a little narrow-minded to assume that just because he made it famous he had been the only one to use it. the saber is listed as a rare weapon even among a weapon as rare as a saber to bein with. and it is most readily associated with the sith, which is why exar kun constructed his to begin with. so he was NOT the only person in the SW universe to use a lightstaff.

everything else you said is dead on, and completely accurate. but to assume that just because he was the first notable figure to use one, that he was the ONLY one to use one is flawed logic at its best.

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Old 01-31-2004, 07:57 PM   #35
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Please give me a name. I assumed that only because I have NEVER, not even in passing, in all the SW books I've read, heard of anyone else using a double-bladed lightsaber. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly accept it.

you do have to admit though, that since episode 1, the double bladed lightsaber has been blown way out of proportion. It's way over used just because it's "cool"
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i will readily agree with you there. it is thrown around quite abit these days.

and though i cannot give you a name, that was my entire point. it was said that exar kun's construction of a lightstaff was in tribute to sith lords of the past. meaning it must have been a weapon used by at least one sith lord prior to his construction of the weapon.

but my point more than anything was that even though the SW universe is fictitious, it is a huge universe. so just because exar kun was the first historically notable figure to use a lightstaff, does not mean some more minor sith or jedi could NOT have used one before he did. it is merely a weapon. a rare one yes. but we have to be open enough here to realize that just because he made the weapon famous doesn't mean he was the first or only one to use it. as star wars.com refers to his wepaon this way:

He brandished a Sith lightsaber with twin blades that increased the potent weapon's lethality.

the idea was this, simply because there is only one person, though now two people, famous for using a weapon, does not mean they were the only ones to ever use it.
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I would also like to point out that it is amusing that Episode 1 "ruined" the double bladed lightsabre concept when the fact is that Ray Park (Darth Maul) is a martial arts expert and that was one of the most well-done fights in film history as far as staff-weapon combat and the staff-style combat with the double saber in that film was just about perfect. As far as I am concered, because of that, in a pure sabre battle (No force), Darth Maul would destroy Kun. Now with the force, it would obviously be Kun destroying Maul.


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Old 01-31-2004, 09:27 PM   #38
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i hate to have to keep disagreeing with you, but i have to once again. i must seem like a real @ss by now.

exar kun is renowned for being the BEST swordsman the jedi have ever known. the tactics he used in the construction of his lightsaber, were well thought out tactics that added to his already proficient use of the weapon. as far as proficiency with a saber, and tactics and strategies used while wielding one, he was pretty much unsurpassed. muskrat pointed out several of these tactics above, and most important of all of them was the asdjustable blade length feint.

so, i will go as far as to say that were it to come down to hand-to-hand combat, a proficient martial artist could win. but i don't feel one should go as far as to say that because someone is a martial artist they could defeat someone who is a MASTER of their chosen weapon.

the other thing that is important here, is not to confuse the skills of an actor with the actual skill level of the character. the actor may have been a good martial artist, but obviously maul himself was not all that much an expert. as he was defeated by obi-wan kenobi. and while one must give obi-wan respect, he was easily bested by someone similarly focused on swordmanship. dooku was well known for his prowess as a swordsman as well.

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Old 01-31-2004, 09:45 PM   #39
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but as far as the original topic is concerned, wasn't someone saying they would host the files? if so, please post a link in this thread. and chances are i will copy it into the first post and give you credit and great thanks for allowing exar kun fans the stats his armor deserved.
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Old 01-31-2004, 10:03 PM   #40
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Very interesting information about Exar Kun. *cough* New Pants & Sleeves *cough*

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