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Old 03-27-2004, 12:54 AM   #1
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Convince me to get an Xbox

Well...go on then. Let's hear your arguments for the brick, and tell me why it's in my best interests to get one - keeping one factor in mind: I probably wouldn't use one for first person shooter type games, because I'm used to the hair-trigger response of a mouse/keyboard combo.

The reason why I need input is because I've been eyeing up games like Prince Of Persia, Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb, Alias etc., and these type of games usually have a 'console control' feel to them - i.e., character moves towards camera, and you have to pan camera, etc.

Is it worth it? Are certain games better suited to the console rather than the PC - even if they are available on both? Should I wait for the Xbox mark II, or dive in and get the first one while it's cheaper? Should I just get a gamepad for these types of games on the PC?

Go on...convince me...
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Old 03-27-2004, 01:33 AM   #2
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Get PS2 or Gamecube.


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Old 03-27-2004, 01:35 AM   #3
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You won't be able to play xbox games on the xbox2 so if you wait for it you're gonna miss out on some really good games. The xbox is also having a price drop very soon as well.

Emperors Tomb was poorly executed. I really enjoyed the Buffy game they made with the Slayer engine but it was just severely screwed with Indy. Prince of Persia is a masterpiece and the controls are great on the Xbox. I'd rather play it on the Xbox over the pc. There's quite a few I'd rather play on the Xbox. Morrowind, GTA, Fable (I hope it rocks!), etc.

One of the big selling points of the Xbox for me was the fact that it didn't require save cartridges. Just save all ya want and never worry about. Another big thing for me was the fact that I can't run many of the new games very well on my current system. I don't know if you have a killer system or not. Then there's the dvd feature. You may already have a dvd player for a tv but it's nice to have the option to play them at another tv.


The PS2 is extremely overpriced now. The Gamecube is quite cheap now but it may not have the type of games that you like and I, personally, hate the controller for it.
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Old 03-27-2004, 01:40 AM   #4
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I heard microfosts calling the xbxo2 the neXtBOX. They're so creative... :sigh: I've been thinkin gabout getting one as well. Whens the price drop rhett? That way ill buy a used one for dirt cheap.

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Old 03-27-2004, 01:56 AM   #5
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They make really good paper weights, And you know you want to give M$ more money.


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Old 03-27-2004, 02:04 AM   #6
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I plan on buying one just for Halo 2. Yes, the controls are not as good as the mouse and keyboard, but you eventually master it.
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Old 03-27-2004, 03:27 AM   #7
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it's bulletproof!

http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6084935.html

here's a little excerpt...

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According to the police report, Kersey emerged from his bedroom at 2 a.m. brandishing an automatic pistol. Rather than shoot his roommates, Kersey took aim at the offending Xbox and fired a single shot at the console. While the bullet's impact disabled the Xbox, its thick plastic casing deflected the 9mm round, which ricocheted away harmlessly.

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Old 03-27-2004, 04:36 AM   #8
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I've heard rumors about the price dropping as low as $99 by the end of the summer.

If (and when) it does I'll get one. When the XBox2 hits the first gen games will get cheap cheap cheap too. Hard to go wrong.

Hey! Now I'm actually looking forward to it!


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Old 03-27-2004, 04:50 AM   #9
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http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6084935.html
here's a little excerpt...
And MS is not marketing on this yet!? I can just imagine it on the box...

"XBOX - The ultimate in gaming and personal defense."
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:11 AM   #10
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Oh Dear, Its only a matter of time until ET sees this, he gets very excited by the mean green machine.....

anyways, hello Stormie......

well Indy is a "scheisse" game..... I was quite excited about it, thank The Maker that I rented it first....... nothing special about it all..... worthy of a humungous MEH......

I dont know anything about the Alias game....

So, the decision depends on this.... what *other games* do you intend to play..... I myself am a big Final Fantasy Fan(can you tell ?), so I couldnt have gone without a PS2, to play the old and new FF games... I do have a GC now too, which I bought much cheaply, and play the Rogue Squadron games and the new Final Fantasy games on it...thats it.....

Things like the 'Return of tke King' game is better on the console IMO.... and the other saving grace of all consoles vs PC are .... SPORTS GAMES.... If you're the type of person who likes to have friends pop in and have a geat game of football/soccer/golf whatever, than consoles are very cool for this... I have weekly match days of FIFA soccer 2004 with 4 friends on the ps2 multitap..... great fun and a good larf....

I dont picture you as a FF fan though

Indy Jones is on PC too, looks better than console and not too awkward with a pc gamepad...

KOTOR is on the XB, but its much better on the PC (IMO)

and since you prefer the PC for FPS(and who wouldnt), I would only recommend a console(any console, let alone an XB) if there are very specific titles you want to play, *especially* multiplayer ones(usually sports games) that arent as fun on a pc....

good luck in making your decision !

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Old 03-27-2004, 06:25 AM   #11
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my gamecube will be fine for now, I'll wait til the price drops.

What is the latest rumor on the date for the price drop?


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Old 03-27-2004, 06:52 AM   #12
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PS2:
+ selection of games, DVD feature out of the box
= Controler, Multi Play, every one has it
- ****y graphics, WAY OVER PRICED, almost to many games, only two player, and I think the controllers suck

Game Cube:
+ Very cheap, some Cube only games rock, small, four player
= ummm
- crappy controller, kiddy games, no multiplayer, no DVD, very few games, and none to look for ward to

XBOX:
+ Xbox Live, price drop coming soon, Halo and Halo 2, graphics and frame rate, four player, Hard Drive, controllers, many games that rock will be coming only on the xbox
= Xbox live costs but I hear every one loves it, EA games are not Xbox friendly (No xbox live), DVD needs a controller
- Big and heavy, but accualy it makes me feel like i have the 'Big One'

Xbox is the way to go!
Games: Halo 1 and 2, Morrowind, Half Life 2 (crosses fingers), Fable, Rainbow Six 3, Splinter Cell / PT looks best on Xbox (unless you have a beefy comp), Ninja Gaiden, JSRF, Mech Assault 1 and 2, Metal Arms (My favorite next to Halo), KotOR, Doom 3, Jade Empire, The Cronicles of Riddick, etc....

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Old 03-27-2004, 06:53 AM   #13
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Thanks for all the responses, people.

I'm teetering on the edge of getting an Xbox after holding out for so long. Just one more little shove... And thanks for clarifying that the Xbox 2 won't be backwards compatible, Rhett.

Other games I'd be considering would be:

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
LOTR: The Two Towers
007: Everything or Nothing

I'm not really into sports games at all. I guess I'm looking more at 3rd person action/adventure, and RPG type games.

Fable looks interesting, from what I've recently read and seen. Of course, Bioware's Jade Empire will be Xbox exclusive, and is definitely looking tempting...

Darnit...I'm nearly talking myself into this...
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Old 03-27-2004, 07:13 AM   #14
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Don't ask me....I'm anti-Microsoft...

get a PS2 or whatever


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Old 03-27-2004, 08:28 AM   #15
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Don't ask me....I'm anti-Microsoft...

get a PS2 or whatever
I'm also an anti-Microsoft, though I use Windows ME, play AOE2TC, Flight Simulator, Own a Microsoft Mouse and Mousepad...

Get a PS2, GameCube, N64 or just wait for XBOX2 (Also known as X2) XBOX is kinda growing old you know...

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Old 03-27-2004, 08:43 AM   #16
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Eh? Getting old? It's newer than the PS2, sabretooth. o_O


Heh. And I'd be anti-microsoft too if I used ME.
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Old 03-27-2004, 08:50 AM   #17
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Uh, right, right. Xbox is newer than PS2, but uh, uh...

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Old 03-27-2004, 08:57 AM   #18
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the best thing about an xbox is you can mod it to play your backup games, and stick in a 160 gig HDD. also dongle free dvd players, stream media to it via lan, all kinds of great stuff i also am anti m$

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Old 03-27-2004, 09:30 AM   #19
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Ummm...Am I the only one that thinks that if you're asking to be told to get one, your mind's already made up to get one?! Be a man. Make a big boy call all on your own, without a total strangers input.
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:36 AM   #20
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Oooooooohehehehe. Thems fightin' words. Challenge him to a duel, Storm. Pistols at dawn!
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:49 AM   #21
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All the systems are on the verge of 'yesterday's system'. We got PS3, X2, and whatever POS Nintendo is gonna spit out.
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:56 AM   #22
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Perhaps a dual handled NGC? >_>



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Old 03-27-2004, 10:26 AM   #23
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Yeah Stormie, I thought you were cooler than that, coming into the murky depths of the swamp to pick our warped brains thus

...it seems you have made up your mind..... to me you do seem like an XB person.....

Im too much a Final Fantasy fan to have not gotten the ps2.....

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Old 03-27-2004, 10:38 AM   #24
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Game Cube:
+ Very cheap, some Cube only games rock, small, four player
= ummm
- crappy controller, kiddy games, no multiplayer, no DVD, very few games, and none to look for ward to
there are 403 games for NGC released and in production at the moment
The controller is awesome, i like it a lot more than the PS2 or xbox one
I dont need MP since I woudlnt use it
no dvd= come on, who hasnt got a dvd player
no games to look forward too? pandora tomorrow (yes yes xbox already i know) WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$ (warioware was in gamespys top games of 2003 and just released chronicles
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Old 03-27-2004, 03:24 PM   #27
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Thanks for all the responses, people.

I'm teetering on the edge of getting an Xbox after holding out for so long. Just one more little shove... And thanks for clarifying that the Xbox 2 won't be backwards compatible, Rhett.

Other games I'd be considering would be:

Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2
LOTR: The Two Towers
007: Everything or Nothing

I'm not really into sports games at all. I guess I'm looking more at 3rd person action/adventure, and RPG type games.

Fable looks interesting, from what I've recently read and seen. Of course, Bioware's Jade Empire will be Xbox exclusive, and is definitely looking tempting...

Darnit...I'm nearly talking myself into this...
I'd only get an X Box for one reason: Shenmue II - the greatest game ever made. Anyone who's played it will rank it right at the top of their lists.

Shenmue and Shenmue II originally came out for Dreamcast, and it's very difficult to classify into what genre they fall. But, they certainly come under this banner: "3rd person action/adventure, and RPG type games." They brought Shenmue II out on the X Box to try and revitalise interest in the series after the Dreamcast died. Unfortunately, you can't get the first game for X Box, however there is a DVD movie that recaps the events of the first game. But, if you really want the full experience, buy a cheap Dreamcast on Ebay and play the first one The greatest gaming decision you'll ever make. I can't recommend it highly enough. So, if you get an X Box, buy Shenmue II



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Old 03-27-2004, 03:40 PM   #28
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......I'd only get an X Box for one reason: Shenmue II...... the greatest game ever made.........
surely it cant be *that* good..... the greatest game ever made is called "spin the bottle, or strip poker" (when played with supermodels) ..... nah j/k.... at this stage I'd really have to say Final Fantasy IX and NWN are the greatest games ever, but Im likely to change my mind, eventually....

I would like to give shenmue a go - is it XB only ??

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Old 03-27-2004, 05:41 PM   #29
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As a Star Wars fan, I would say get the XBox for KOTOR. But since it's already out for the PC, (with a few extra features, no less) there's not as much incentive to get it.

I suppose I could say get it for Halo 2, but I've never played any Halo game. :/


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Two words.


Ninja Gaiden.



'Nuff said. You want an Xbox for this game. This game rules like you can't even believe.

Prince of Persia is also absolutely beautiful and worthwhile. Morrowind is way better on the Xbox IMO.


Then of course we get Jade Empire and Fable.

The harddrive is also a huge advantage over the other consoles. I've never enjoyed memory cards, and having to choose which save games to keep so I can save another game just makes me sad. You also can burn music onto it and use them as custom soundtracks to certain games, which is actually a lot cooler than it sounds.

All in all, Xbox owns your face, and you know you want one.



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my gamecube will be fine for now, I'll wait til the price drops.

What is the latest rumor on the date for the price drop?
http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/28/comm...column_gaming/


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heres mine! You know you want one!
here is where it sits, its in music mode, (press Y+X, or X+Y)

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I must need some laxitives or something, cause I don't give a Sh!t!

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Rob, it would be fun to play games with/against your kids or your mates on. What other reason do you need?

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Rob, it would be fun to play games with/against your kids or your mates on. What other reason do you need?
Well seeing you have kiddies Stormie, you have to have some type of console ..... I think its a done deal... Off you go now, go fill Gatesy's pockets just that little bit more

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Ummm...Am I the only one that thinks that if you're asking to be told to get one, your mind's already made up to get one?! Be a man. Make a big boy call all on your own, without a total strangers input.
What what what?

*draws a flashy rapier and waves it around a bit*

Have at you, sir! Have at you, I say!

I just value other people's opinions. If everyone had turned around and said it was not worth it, then I'd probably not get one.

As for kiddies...yep, I've got two of those. They already have a PS2 - and my eldest has even managed to twist me around his little finger on occasion to play some racing game or other. Through an error on my part I ordered a copy of Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (I misread the age limit - I thought it said 5+ instead of 15+ - I know, I need to get these ageing eyes tested), and I've played some of that and it seems okay (apart from annoying jump puzzles, grrr...)

As for KOTOR...I already have that on PC.

Thanks for all the other responses (and game suggestions), people. I'm almost convinced it might be a good idea to get an Xbox now.

*goes off to count pennies in bank account*
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