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Old 07-11-2006, 03:29 PM   #121
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I generally like playing LSF, mainly because I like Carth and because I hate the 'kill, kill, and more indiscriminate kill' you have to do to get to DS.
However, I like to play every type at least once to get as much of the story as possible. You can't get some of the backstories on Disciple/Handmaiden (some of which contributes to the main story) without playing the opposite gender.

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Old 07-11-2006, 04:02 PM   #122
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Meh the thing I posted was just my opinion.Sorry if I offended anyone. I downloaded the cutted Alternate DS Female Ending and it was kinda cool but It just wasnt REVAN I really dunno why but I always view Revan as male.

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Old 07-11-2006, 04:05 PM   #123
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I say male. Just because.


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Old 07-11-2006, 04:16 PM   #124
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u dont have to get so testy.

i really dont care about all of this canon bs just play the game and be whatever sex u want to be. who cares

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Old 07-11-2006, 05:42 PM   #125
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I enjoy playing as all four Revans (LS/DS, Male/Female), though I think I prefer playing female a bit more than male. As some others have stated, there aren't that many strong female characters in the star wars universe (I think they almost made a female sith lord in Ep III, but it never went through), so I think it's great you can play as a gal in Kotor. Though, I think I prefer breaking Carth's heart by going DS rather than staying LS. I'm so evil.....
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:59 AM   #126
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Old 07-12-2006, 08:32 AM   #127
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Thats supershadow crap. NEVER mention supershadow crap in my presence.
Actually you're both wrong. There was a plan for Darth Sidious' new apprentice in Episode II to be female, but they scrapped the idea, and they used the concept art from it to create Asajj Ventress.

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Old 07-13-2006, 03:41 PM   #128
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Another reason for female Revan being my preference comes on Leviathan. We know Malak wants Bastila. We know Saul is going to end up as a corpse if he permanantly damages Bastila. However, the Republic soldier? Not a Jedi, and therefore of no importance to Malak. And the former lieutenant of Karath's? Hell yes, he's the one who's going to get the worst of it.

As for "he" and "Dark Lord?" Well, that armor conceals just about everything. So, if one does not know Revan, then it's simple to make the "A woman can't" assumption and believe it's a man under there. This works nicely to a female Revan's advantage, BTW. Kreia commented in K2 about how Revan could easily change clothing, blend in anywhere, and how useful it could be. Looking for a man in Jedi robes and packing a lightsaber? Well, it means you won't pay any attention to the slight woman in a combat suit and packing a blaster sneaking out the back.

Exile? He (pardon me, my preference is male Exile) appears to have been much more visible to the rank and file. Revan concealed anything - face, gender, alignment - under robes and masks. (Which made it a lot easier for the Jedi to pull off the change in ID). Revan and Malak led the war while concealing their hunt of the Forge. Exile was the public face of the Jedi who went to war. The Mandalorians recognize him. A former soldier on Peragus recognizes him. Bao-Dur recognizes him.


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Old 07-15-2006, 05:02 AM   #129
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As for "he" and "Dark Lord?" Well, that armor conceals just about everything. So, if one does not know Revan, then it's simple to make the "A woman can't" assumption and believe it's a man under there. This works nicely to a female Revan's advantage, BTW. Kreia commented in K2 about how Revan could easily change clothing, blend in anywhere, and how useful it could be. Looking for a man in Jedi robes and packing a lightsaber? Well, it means you won't pay any attention to the slight woman in a combat suit and packing a blaster sneaking out the back.
That is logically true, but thinking carefully, people in the Kotor saga should all know if Revan is a male or female since he (let's just use he for convenience) is such a big figure at that time, hero of the republic, then a powerful Dark Lord, etc. Even his face can't be seen, there's still his voice. And at that time those who're hunting down Revan are Malak's pawns, so it's reasonable that they Do know Revan is a male or female, given that Malak does know.

Why does Revan disguise him/herself in robes and hood? That's pretty too heavily armoured for a jedi. It is as if he/she doesn't want people to know his/her real identity: gender, face, etc. Of course it has to be designed that way to fit the storyline, so that no one recognizes him/her as the dark lord when he walks around. But maybe there's another reason, that is people tend to underestimate a woman, and with a mask like that Revan, even if she's a she, does seem more powerful and convincing. And Revan as a mastermind must understand the fact that sometimes looks matter more than anything.

But personally, though I'm female I like to play Revan as male, because I think the Bastila romance is better executed than the Carth romance.

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Playing male, I never quite was able to ditch the suspicion that Bastila's "scuccumbing to my charms" wasn't more due to a combination of bottled-up hormones (it's not like she got to date in the Enclave) and the Force Bond.
I don't think so. I think the developers tried to show that it wasn't so by adding the Bastila's mother quest, to show that Revan and Bastila did go through something before they fall for each other. After all, it's just a game and the journey just isn't long enough to manifest exactly how much they went through together. Personally, I think it suffices to be a beautiful love story when Revan redeemed Bastila with love.

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I'm biased towards Revan Being male.

That being said, before I heard anything about KOTOR2's storyline
I thought a female Revan + the cut out LS ending would wrap up the story of Revan nicely.
What of K2 makes a female Revan more suitable? I often hear people say that but I don't understand why, anyone can explain?

Also, what's the cut out LS ending? Where can I take a look at all the cut material in K2?

Thanks.
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:53 PM   #130
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What of K2 makes a female Revan more suitable? I often hear people say that but I don't understand why, anyone can explain?

Also, what's the cut out LS ending? Where can I take a look at all the cut material in K2?

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What I meant was that the story was being continued in K2. In the cut lightside ending:
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At the end of K1 instead of killing Carth, he convinces her to return to the light. They have to kill Bastila and end up going down with the Starforge. It kinda reminded me of Vader's sacrifice in ROTJ.

There was also a mod that restored this ending.

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Old 07-16-2006, 12:23 AM   #131
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:30 AM   #132
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What I meant was that the story was being continued in K2. In the cut lightside ending:
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At the end of K1 instead of killing Carth, he convinces her to return to the light. They have to kill Bastila and end up going down with the Starforge. It kinda reminded me of Vader's sacrifice in ROTJ.
The story is not being continued in K2 in this way...there'd be no Bastila and not even Carth and Revan then...wouldnt there?
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:43 AM   #133
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The story is not being continued in K2 in this way...there'd be no Bastila and not even Carth and Revan then...wouldnt there?
To quote myself.
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What I meant was that the story was being continued in K2.
Was referring to Revan's story.
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That being said, before I heard anything about KOTOR2's storyline
I thought a female Revan + the cut out LS ending would wrap up the story of Revan nicely.

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Old 07-17-2006, 03:08 AM   #134
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Revan and the Exile should both be Male.
I know you've had a lot of replies about your comments, but I have to make my say just so you can see that what you think can't happen, has actually happened in the Star Wars Universe.

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Can you actually see a Female Revan leading the Republic and several Jedi to destroy the Mandalorians?!

Can you actually see a Female Exile being a General that gave the order for activation of the Mass Shadow Generator?!
If you watch ROTS, during Order 66, you can see Aayla Secura, and Stass Allie (both female Jedi), Generals in the Clone Wars. Luminara Unduli would have been a 3rd female Jedi shown killed by her Clone Trooper squad if that scene wasn't cut from the movie. Again, she was a General.



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A Female Revan returning as Dark Lord of the Sith to destroy the Jedi?!

A Female Exile killing 3 Sith Lords?!
Yes I can.

For one, Jedi being powerful was never based on the gender, rather than the amount of Midi-Chlorians they had in their body (watch TPM to understand this better). If a female Jedi has a very high count, she'll defiantly have potential to be a very powerful Jedi, regardless of gender. This applies to race, color, species, etc. Those things don't matter, it's the midi-chlorian count.

In general, why else would the Jedi Order use the female gender is they weren't capable of being great Jedi?

DID YOU KNOW??? That at one point George Lucas almost the role of Luke being a female (of course with a female name) and have a female be the Jedi hero (would have been an interesting idea since woman tend to be more compassionate than men generally and it would have fit well with the storyline of redeeming Anakin). You can discover this fact if you have the EMPIRE OF DREAMS segment on the bonus DVD you get with the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD that was released on September 21, 2004.


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Good illustration, Shem. Not being biasedly supportive of my own gender but I see no reason why a female can't be a dark lord of the sith.
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Good illustration, Shem. Not being biasedly supportive of my own gender but I see no reason why a female can't be a dark lord of the sith.
I agree. I mean, look at Darth Traya...


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Old 07-17-2006, 10:58 AM   #137
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:00 AM   #138
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Well you all know that Revan is officially a male right? In the cutscenes for one, he has a male body, reguardless of how his face looks (that is if you didn't download the female body for cutscenes mod).
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Revan is not "officially" anything other than what sex you choose for her/him. Revan is a customizable PC.

"Canonically" Revan is a LSM, but all that amounts to is that if Revan is written about in any form then s/he will be referred to as a LSM. That is all.



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Old 07-17-2006, 05:59 PM   #140
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I cannot even imagine a female Revan.

Kotor is one of the few RPGs where I can strongly identify myself with the player character. And I am male...

Also to me, Revan is a male name. AND, the Bastila-Revan romance is just to much better than the Carth-Revan romance... the bond they share, that is just meant to be between a male and a female person, dont you think?


If I was female it would probably be the other way around.



Since i cant really indentify myself with the Exile, in "my" Kotor she is female.

About those saying Revan is canonically (spelled right? i guess not..) Light side male, all i can say is: Revan is whatever you choose him/her to be.

I would be pissed if Revan was considered to be female by developers, and I suppose female players would be as pissed if Revan was considered to be male.
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Old 07-17-2006, 06:21 PM   #141
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Thats what I ment cannonically. I'm not trying to anger anyone. I actually play as a female just as much as male and a lot more people do the same so sorry if I offended you.


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Thats what I ment cannonically. I'm not trying to anger anyone. I actually play as a female just as much as male and a lot more people do the same so sorry if I offended you.
I'm not offended. Really. I would just like it to be clear to everyone that just because Revan is supposedly "canonically" a LSM, it really doesn't amount to zip unless Revan is written about in some form dealing with Star Wars.

All of the folks who always throw out the statements that begin, "Canonically, Revan is a male... blah blah blah..." or "Officially, Revan is a dude... blah blah blah..." ( ) apparently don't know or don't care that all the "canonization" of Revan means is that in reference Revan would be referred to as male... and that's about it.



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Female, because I am female. I tried playing as a male character but it was just to weired!! before I even got off Taris I had to start over as a Female character.


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What we need is better faces for female Revan, I know there is some mods, but we really need some good looking faces for them. The default faces are, well, not very good. If anyone can do this please do and contact me. Sorry for going off topic (is this technically off topic?).


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"Canonically" Revan is a LSM, but all that amounts to is that if Revan is written about in any form then s/he will be referred to as a LSM. That is all.
Don't know where this "canon" came from. Maybe I missed the boat somewhere... My copy of TSL defaults to DSF, unless my PC corrects Atton.

Personally though, I've played both, but I prefer to play a male Revan. 'Course, that's probably because I have some trouble role-playing the part of someone who has the hots for Carth.

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Don't know where this "canon" came from.
Wiki/Wookieepedia - need I say more?

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Personally though, I've played both, but I prefer to play a male Revan. 'Course, that's probably because I have some trouble role-playing the part of someone who has the hots for Carth.

*shiver* Gives me the heebie-jeebies...
Maybe for you, but I found the romance with Carth lots more gratifying than the Bastila/male PC romance.

But then again, I am female so I would like the Carth romance better, right? That's the beauty of how Bioware wrote and presented the different storylines for both versions - they appeal to their targeted audience precisely as they should.

That is why "canonizing" either/or version of Revan is ridiculous. It unequivocally shuts out the other half of how the story plays out for Revan. That is why I am completely against any "canonization" of Revan (and/or Exile).



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Don't know where this "canon" came from.
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Ah, of course. How silly of me not to know...


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That is why "canonizing" either/or version of Revan is ridiculous. It unequivocally shuts out the other half of how the story plays out for Revan. That is why I am completely against any "canonization" of Revan (and/or Exile).
Actually according to Prime both sides of the argument on the 'canon' LSM Revan issue is C-level Cannon, the canon LSM Revan statement by LLC is the same identical level of 'canon' that the game itself is, so the so-called canon Revan doesn't really take anymore special precedent, as the game is free to contradict it. One side cannot outrank the other... just like I have always stated, Revan is whatever we want him/her to be.

It is a guideline for other EU writers nothing more.

While I dislike the word canon used in reference to anything EU, it is something that must have sprung into existence from fanboys pestering LLC, and something we have to live with. Of course I still use the word 'apocrypha' in reference to the EU so I'm just out of date I guess.


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Sorry, RedHawke. I am not up on all my Star Wars canon terminology.



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Neither am I, but you hang around Prime long enough the stuff starts to sink in!


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Well, I always choose a female avatar, if I have the possibillity to do so. Just because I'm 100% female...
But my brother preferes a female Revan, too. He says, that the women just look better than the boys - and always playing a male Char get's boting with the time (He mostle plays one-gender-games).
We also agreed to use a female Revan in our Fanfiction. We called her Diotima and mostly I think of Revan as Dio...


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Old 07-28-2006, 12:22 AM   #156
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Um... how about male cuz it's CANON. Anyways, I can't stop luvin ur LEGO Revanchow

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Old 07-28-2006, 01:25 AM   #157
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Um... how about male cuz it's CANON.
I strongly suggest you read my post on this above...


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Old 07-28-2006, 10:52 AM   #158
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Um... how about male cuz it's CANON. Anyways, I can't stop luvin ur LEGO Revanchow

who cares about things like "canon"? *lol* Comeon, if everything in this gane had to follow the canon, you wouldn't have the possibillity to choose a gender anyway!


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Old 07-28-2006, 07:04 PM   #159
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What's is or isn't canon only has, or rather should have, relevance only to sources like novels or references like the chronologies or guides or whatever. In the games themselves, it should always be optional, and I'll be more than upset if I see a hardcoded Revan or Exile in ANY game! The were both male to me, and who can tell me I "played it wrong"? Besides, Revan's gender and alignment was still optional in KotOR2, so it - and the Exile's - should be in any subsequent game where it has relevance as well.


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Old 07-29-2006, 01:01 PM   #160
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Exactly my thoughts! If there way only one "right" way to play this game and you had to follow this, you also could watch a movie!


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