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Old 07-09-2004, 01:39 AM   #1
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Rain Song

So there's been a few thunder storms around here lately and it's got me thinking, what song/album to you think is the most suiting to listen to when it's raining.

I have to go with the Styx album Crystal Ball, more specifically the last track Claire de Lune/Ballerina. To me it just captures the feel of the storm better than any others.

Your thoughts?


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Old 07-09-2004, 07:52 AM   #2
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Morrowind - Isle of Edges

A lovely, suiting piece of work from Overclocked. Download it to see what I mean.


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Old 07-09-2004, 07:52 AM   #3
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i would have to say Travis and their 'The Man Who' album.
firstly for the fitting ‘Why Does It Always Rain On Me?’ but also for ‘Driftwood’ and ‘Turn’ very suitable songs for when you’re watching the rain from your bedroom window.
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Old 07-09-2004, 09:35 AM   #4
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My first thought was 'uhm, that melon song... Blind Melon. But that was called No Rain... d'oh!'

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Um, something that drowns out the rain?

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Old 07-09-2004, 03:31 PM   #6
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"rain on me" by ashanti.

or "hello" by evanescence.

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Um, something that drowns out the rain?
shiney happy people?

or that r.kelly song...where they're in that place and there's all the golden balloons...which is in practically all of his music videos...
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Old 07-09-2004, 03:46 PM   #7
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Old 07-09-2004, 04:43 PM   #8
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I cant really say that I can link songs and weather too well but some good songs are Scrapped Princess's 'La-li-la of the World'. As well as Inuyasha's "Kessen no Toki". Anything Ayumi Hamasaki.


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dip it low- christina milian

this song is good anytime.
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Old 07-09-2004, 07:59 PM   #10
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Anything by Neurosis.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 07-10-2004, 01:00 AM   #11
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I got another one.

Led Zeppelin - The Rain Song

Very Appropriate.


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Old 07-10-2004, 07:40 AM   #12
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Stormy Weather Mix Tape...

Dire Straits - It Never Rains
The Who - Love, Reign O'er Me
The Doors - Riders On The Storm
Queensryche - Another Rainy Night (Without You)
Aerosmith - Lightning Strikes
Allman Brothers - Stormy Monday
CCR - Who'll Stop The Rain?



And for that certain crowd who might just appriciate it...

Weather Girls - It's Raining Men (Halleluja!)


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Old 07-10-2004, 08:43 AM   #13
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i think it very depends to what you are doing when it rains..

for instance.. being outside or not?


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Old 07-10-2004, 10:38 AM   #14
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Wait, are we talking about great songs to listen to while its raining, like adding an ambiance, or songs about raining?


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 07-10-2004, 02:46 PM   #15
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dip it low- christina milian

this song is good anytime.
Um...


"There are no words that can discribe such a thing."
"Stupid and inane are the words I like to use."
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Old 07-10-2004, 10:47 PM   #16
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Wait, are we talking about great songs to listen to while its raining, like adding an ambiance, or songs about raining?
Either/ Or...
I just happened to go with a "Rainy Day Mix Tape" theme.
It was easier than trying to figure out what I might be listening to when it rains otherwise.

After the events of last week (lightning taking out part of my computer system, including my PC speakers... Full story here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=131304 ) I'm probably not going to be listening to anything when the weather turns foul since all my electronics are going to be unplugged at the first sound of thunder.


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Old 07-11-2004, 05:21 AM   #17
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Yeah, here at STL, we've still got fourteen hundred power outages from a storm last monday.

It's kind of hard to listen to things when you've got no power. It's also kind of hard to fall asleep too.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:45 AM   #18
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Re: Stormy Weather Mix Tape...

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And for that certain crowd who might just appriciate it...

Weather Girls - It's Raining Men (Halleluja!)
Finally, my taste in music is represented by Edlib!!!
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Old 07-11-2004, 01:33 PM   #19
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dip it low- christina milian

this song is good anytime.
Um...
what? it is good anytime...no matter what the circumstance.

you could be the most depressed person in the world, and this song would be good.

you could be the happiest person in the world, and this song would be good.

you could be a nun, and this song would be good.
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Or you could have taste, and that song would suck.


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Say it loud! say it proud!

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Finally, my taste in music is represented by Edlib!!!
Little known fact: That song was written by Late Night with David Letterman band leader Paul Schaffer. Who knew...

There are a couple of sure-fire ways to have a song produce royalty money for you for life:

1.) Write or record a catchy Christmas song. Every year your song will be played a zillion times on the radio, TV, CD compilations, and in the malls. Instant money without ever having to do anything ever again in your life except get off your butt once in a while and go to the mailbox to pick up your checks and cash them.

2.) Same as above,.. but instead of a holiday themed song, write a song that's sure to be played at every Gay-Pride function in the world until the end of time.

As far as I know Paul Schaffer has never written a big Christmas hit...


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Or you could have taste, and that song would suck.


why isn't it a good song?
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I really don't mind the song, but I guess these here forum-goers don't like it 'cause it's popular.

By the way, anyone seen the music video?


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Old 07-11-2004, 04:09 PM   #24
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why isn't it a good song?
Sooo many reasons.

And edlib, did you get that christmas song thing from About a Boy? And if you thought about it, catchy or not, how much money could one broadcast of the song bring in to collectively make it worth a living?

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I had to take a Music Business class as part of my major in college.
I forget the exact numbers, and they've probably changed a bit since I was in school anyway,.. but songwriter's publishing royalties can be enough to retire on if the song is a hit and has steady play once off the charts. The Song "Yesterday" alone brings in several tens of millions of dollars a year to Paul McCartney and the estate of John Lennon (each.)
Each time the song is played in public (like a Christmas carol over a mall P.A.) a royalty payment is due to the songwriter. And every time someone re-records the song on another album, the songwriter gets a cut of each copy of the album with that song on it sold, plus all the additional playings of that new recording on radio, TV, and public spaces. Since every big pop star eventually records a Christmas CD with pretty much all the same songs on it (most are in the public domain now) the composers of those songs and thier publishing companies, or the copyright holders stand to make a small killing in the last quarter of every year if the song is popular.
These payments are small on thier own, but with repeated playings in many, many malls it can really add up.

Here's a good site that I've found that kind of explains all of this in a pretty easy-to-understand language if you are really interested:
http://www.ultimatesongwriting.com/music-royalties.html


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y the way, anyone seen the music video?
i have. i like the video.

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Sooo many reasons.
b/c christina's sooooo fly, and you're not?


and anyway...why doesn't anyone just like a regular, normal song? why does everyone have to like/listen to music that they claim is "sophisticated" in a way, having "more complex rhythms" and all that crap. tell me one good song. what's your favorite song? a good one, that i've probably heard. i have a small musical...

...repertoire. ( )

my favorite song is still "mary had a little lamb". i think everyone just wants to grow up too fast... mary rocks my socks. she always will.
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what's your favorite song? a good one, that i've probably heard.
Stravinsky - The Rite Of Spring

It's a good one alright...

My take:

Musical tastes are hard to justify. I happen to like music that is challenging to listen to. If music is too simplistic, if I feel like "I could play this song note for note after one listen" then it loses my interest quickly. I want to listen to stuff that I know I couldn't play without studying it in depth for a while.

On the other hand: A great pop song is deceptively simple, and notoriously difficult to compose. For example: Anything the later period Beatles wrote is amazingly complicated, but are so catchy you make the mistake of thinking that it is simpler than it really is. That's why it still holds up today.
The problem with most pop today is that it really is as simple as it sounds. Unfortunately that can make for an entertaining listening experience in the short run, it doesn't hold up in the long run. It gets old too fast. Will anybody be listening to most of today's hits 40 years from now? Not likely.

Challenging music, just like challenging literature, theater, and film, forces you to think and reform new ideas about the world around you.
Dance floor pop music serves a temporary purpose as soundtrack of the mating rituals of the young in our societies, but it doesn't stay with you for long. It is disposable. It makes no real lasting impact on your life.


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Das Mole, have you not heard of differing taste? You seem to be in this deluded fantasy that if you like a song then everybody else must too.


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Das Mole, have you not heard of differing taste? You seem to be in this deluded fantasy that if you like a song then everybody else must too.
um, not really. i don't where you getting that from...all i wanted to know is why people thought it wasn't a good song...or why whenever i say i like a certain song, people completely bash it and says it's crap. i think everyone else thinks that i need to like the songs they like...i can't just have my own opinion and everyone leave it, they have to say bad things and then when i say something bad about the things they like, i'm considered "naive" like i have no clue what's going on.

that's what i can't stand about some people here, is that they twist things around so that things are in their favor and they make me look like the fool. well, you know what? i'm no fool. i have a certain "taste" for music too, maybe you don't like it, but you don't have to pick on me for it.

and i'm not the one who hasn't heard of different taste, and apparently, if that is the case, then nobody else has either, b/c people can't seem to understand why i like the songs i like, and they think "oh, how can you not like", i dunno, "the beatles". you know why i don't like the beatles, or nirvana, or all that other stuff, is because, as edlib said, those songs are "so catchy you make the mistake of thinking that it is simpler than it really is. That's why it still holds up today". well, to tell you the truth, i don't want to listen to the same song for the rest of my life. i'm not listening to music so i can like a song that was made 40 years ago (i know, some songs i like are covers of old songs, but that's a little different). i like how songs change and i'm not listening to the same song all year long, or longer. i think, as they say "variety is the spice of life". not "monotony is the spice of life".

anyway....

no, i'm not in a deluded fantasy, no, i don't think everyone likes the songs i like (which doesn't even make sense, everybody hates the songs i like, and i know that, i'm not a moron), and yes, i do know that people have different musical tastes. that's why people don't necessarily like the songs i do.

i don't mean to be mean to anyone for liking a certain kind of music, however, sometimes i feel like some people are trying to be mean to me for liking the kinds of music that i like to listen to.
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There's nothing wrong with liking Top 40 pop, as long as you realize that many people might disagree with your tastes, and that the artists making it probably won't be around still making it in a couple of years.
The other thing is this: as you get older you will find that pop music will suddenly change around you, and you might not like what it becomes, and that all your old favorites are nowhere to be found anymore and that commercial radio becomes unlistenable except for nostalgia-themed "Oldies" stations. You will find yourself asking "Why dosen't anybody make good music anymore? The stuff these kids today make just sounds like noise to me!"
It has happened to every generation before, and it WILL happen to you! Guaranteed.

Listening to music that has already proved itself timeless just might help cushion the blow when it happens.

And only good things can come out of trying to expand your musical horizons. It doesn't mean you have to stop liking popular hits if you listen to jazz and classical,.. although I suspect you just might find yourself being a bit more discriminating about which hit songs you like if you do.


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as long as you realize that many people might disagree with your tastes
i don't know how anyone got the impression i didn't realize that...it's so obvious even the biggest simpleton could figure that out. there's a difference between wanting to know why people seem to filled with disgust when i mention i song i like, and then have to say how awful and s*** the song is, rather than wanting to know why people like the music they like.

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that the artists making it probably won't be around still making it in a couple of years
uh, yeah. i'm not stupid. i don't stay attached to people or things for very long.

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you might not like what it becomes
don't worry. i will.

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It has happened to every generation before, and it WILL happen to you! Guaranteed.
oh really? my own mother will listen to the stations i listen to with no problem and like the songs. no, she wasn't a teen parent. she's 42. she doesn't seem to have a huge problem with it.

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Listening to music that has already proved itself timeless just might help cushion the blow when it happens.
*turns on old 60's rock songs*
hmm...*yawn*
*snore*

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And only good things can come out of trying to expand your musical horizons
my horizons have nowhere to expand to.
-i hate country
-i hate jazz
-i hate classical
-i hate "older" songs, from way back when

i pretty much can't stand a lot of music. i find many kinds of music to be extremely boring. i need to hear words when i listen to music. i want to sing along with the song when i hear it.


i guess the thing is this.

i don't understand...what is so great about older songs. don't you want something new once in a while? once you listen to an old song, that's it. there are no new old songs. they're old!

and, i have something to say about this as well:

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all your old favorites are nowhere to be found anymore and that commercial radio becomes unlistenable except for nostalgia-themed "Oldies" stations.
well, i don't listen to a song anymore once i can't find it on the radio all too often. i will never listen to an oldies station in my life. i loved beyonce's "crazy in love" when it came out roughly a year ago. i can't even stand listening to it now. in fact, i don't even care if the song exists any more. and it's beyonce, my favorite singer, for christ's sake! i won't have any "old favorites". i listen to the new things. once beyonce doesn't sing anymore, i'll probably forget about her. new singers come out, and if they're good, i'll listen to them. i don't stay attached or bonded to old singers and all that. once a song is old, it's old. it's worn-out. it's lost it's entertainment value. it's not fun to listen to anymore.

and, i also have to say, i don't listen to music to get something out of the song (which is probably why i don't like country music, it tells a story), i listen to music for entertainment purposes. it's not like i listen to a song to think afterward "that's a good life lesson". i'm not that kind of person. i don't look for values or morals in the daily aspects of my life. maybe that's why people think of me as foolish and dumb. i don't know.

i just feel like for whatever reason, i mention a song, people say it's awful, how can i like song, it's so simple, you can't get anything out of it. and then i say "well, i like to listen to it for enjoyment." and then if i say someone's song is awful, or i hate it, or how can they like it, then the person comes back at me and says "it's such a good song. you just don't understand. you'll get it eventually. this song is so much better". well, i think it's all a matter of opinion, but some people like to say "it's classier, and more complex, so it's better". i say "screw you. you don't know what you're talking about. i like this song. you like that song. whatever". but people just can't leave it there, can they? of course not! people then say "oh, but this and that and this and that and blahdee blah blah blah" going on about how complex it is and how it's not a simple beat, and how their song never gets old, and how it'll be around forever.

i personally can't stand how nobody can just respect me, and then when i treat them how they treat me, with no respect, i come off as a jerk somehow, and i absolutely hate it. everything gets so warped and twisted and turned and then i look like the butthole. like i don't know what i'm talking about.

i will say that yes, i am a little bit narrow-minded, maybe b/c i can't "support my facts and say why the song is bad", while everyone else has all these factual statements, and everything is purely just analytical, and....

gah! i'm just gonna end there. sorry. i'm spilling out every thought i'm having at the moment....getting carried away. i'll just end it there.
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Das Mole, you come off as the jerk yourself - we don't need to do anything. It's when you come out with comments like "why doesn't anyone just like a regular, normal song?" and "why does everyone have to like/listen to music that they claim is "sophisticated" in a way, having "more complex rhythms" and all that crap." that you really come off badly.

What is "regular" or "normal" music to you, then? I don't consider any form of music at all to be "normal", it's all different and certain genres will appeal to different people. You say that 60's rock is boring - but to many people that is perfectly normal music to listen to, and it certainly isn't irregular. Even various people from my college listen to 60's music often - nobody thinks anything of it.

I have a feeling you're at the age now where you get looked at oddly if you don't listen to what everyone else is listening to. I can't think of anything else to explain it. For some reason, you seem to shunt listening to anything but whatever's currently in the charts, and then defend them like they're your family - you seem to listen to them just for the sake of them being new.

Your response of "don't worry. i will." to edlib's comment about possibly not liking how modern music may sound in the upcoming years is a sure sign of this. How do you know that you'll like it, if you've not even heard it yet? You're just following a blind faith, and will probably end up liking whatever they turn out - no matter how bad it is.

My advice; step away from the charts and see what else is out there. I may be wrong here, but aren't you an aspiring musician yourself? You'll get nowhere if you don't broaden your musical variety - I can guarantee that.

"once you listen to an old song, that's it. there are no new old songs. they're old!"

There's that many old songs out there, I don't think you'll find them in short supply mate. "Old" doesn't necessarily mean that old either - what about all the stuff released through the 90's? Is that too old for your divine standards? If so, then I really do have pity for you.

Oh, and this post is horrible unstructured, and hasn't come out exactly how I intended it to. So, here's some cliff-notes:

- You're following the charts blindly.
- You're not prepared to listen to anything that isn't new.
- You have a very closed mind, musically.
- There's no helping you, you just need to grow out of it.


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Oh, and since you fired this question at me, allow me to backfire it at you.

Das Mole, why is Dip it Low a good song?


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Fellows, fellows. Let's listen to something we can all enjoy: Alexander's Ragtime Band *Dances a 1910 dance*


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- You're following the charts blindly.
honestly, i don't give a rat's ass if people like the music i like or if they don't. if i did, why would i share my opinions on songs that i like?

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- You're not prepared to listen to anything that isn't new.
exactly. why would i want to listen to something that isn't current and that i have to search for on the internet or download, or find some oldies station.

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- You have a very closed mind, musically.
how do i have a closed mind? i've listened to the types of music that people suggest, and i'm being completely honest, i don't like them. i'm not trying to fit in with my peers. i have other things that i like and that are my own qualities that make me fit in just fine. and did it ever occur to you that for the mass majority of people in my age group to be classified as liking a certain type of music, that some people actually have to like the music? how else would people be pressured to fit in? what if i'm one of the people that truly likes that kind of music?

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- There's no helping you, you just need to grow out of it.
helping me?! HELPING ME?! exactly what the f*** does that mean? "helping me get some musical taste" as you would say it? i don't need any f***in help. i'll like whatever kind of music i want to. are you trying to insinuate that i'm strange for liking the music that i like? because if that's the case, then you really have some deep-seated issues.

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Oh, and since you fired this question at me, allow me to backfire it at you.

Das Mole, why is Dip it Low a good song?
dip it low is a good song because it has a good beat, i happen to think that christina milian has a nice voice, and i like the music video. (btw-i don't recall asking you what made a song good)

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Das Mole, you come off as the jerk yourself - we don't need to do anything. It's when you come out with comments like "why doesn't anyone just like a regular, normal song?" and "why does everyone have to like/listen to music that they claim is "sophisticated" in a way, having "more complex rhythms" and all that crap." that you really come off badly.
do you realize what an ironic statement this is? you're coming off like a jerk, too. the reason i said "why does everyone have to like/listen to music that they claim is "sophisticated" in a way, having "more complex rhythms" and all that crap," is because everybody always attacks me for having any kind of opinion at all. you know at first, i made the suggestion, then samnmax says something, and all i did was ask "why isn't it a good song?" then people have to say crap about it, and then i replied and said "why doesn't anyone like a regular, normal song?"

you wanna know what that means? all i meant was, everyone says the songs they like are more complicated and everything is more intricate, like some kind of beautifully woven tapestry. and if you use your brain, the person who talks about their song that way is essentially calling it "excellent". by those standards, my song would be "average", or potentially even lower than that. and in my mind, at the time, when i was getting slightly irritated and just typing whatever came to my mind, the word "average" was synonymous with "normal". okay?

and yes, i do realize i'm being very defensive.

but perhaps if you weren't so offensive, i wouldn't be so fired up right now.

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If so, then I really do have pity for you.
then pity me. pity me to your heart's content!

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oh, give me a ****in break. "divine standards"? yeah. right. obviously, you're the one with the god damn divine standards, to the point where you can't just accept the fact that i like a certain kind of music that you feel is beneath you.

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You're just following a blind faith, and will probably end up liking whatever they turn out.
actually, i don't like every single song that's new on the radio that singers turn out. in fact, i only like probably about 60% of the new songs that come out.

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allow me to backfire it at you
i have something to say about this again, and that is, that even if i did ask you that:

1) i probably didn't ask it directly to you, not everything is about you, and
2) you never even answered the question anyway.
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Yes, you're right - you're being way too defensive. Someone made a small comment with regards to your musical taste, and look at the plethora of paragraphs which has emerged from this.

I've said my piece, so I'd just be repeating myself if I were to continue. And yes, I am a jerk.

It obviously bothers you that we've questioned your taste in music -- but guess what? It happens in life. I'm sure there's plenty of people that would question my enjoyment of film soundtracks, and heavy metal, but I really couldn't care less.

I'm not dead set against chart followers like yourself, I just think it's a shame that you're not willing to expand your horizons and step away from the mainstream menace. I think one of the terms is "trend whore"?

Anyway, that's enough. Obviously our tastes clash, so let's leave it at that.


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okay, well, i don't think this whole thing just sprouted from one little comment, someone had to say something about how my taste in music sucked, and i won't take an insult without saying something back...

and, yeah, fine, i'll call myself a "trend whore", even though i don't like the choice of wording...and i tried expanding my horizons, but what can i say? if i don't like a type of music, i just...don't like it. there's nothing i can do about it.

either way...

sorry i attacked you and all that stuff, and yeah. i'll leave it alone.
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Old 07-12-2004, 05:59 PM   #38
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O_o...

this was quite interesting... (in a scientific point of view...)

...


or wasn't it real at all and just constructed? maybe THEY just want to test us...
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er... forget it... i haven't slept for 38,5 hours...




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nope. 100% real.
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Old 07-12-2004, 09:17 PM   #40
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Das, I'm just trying to figure out where you are coming from.
As a musician, I have always tried to listen to everything that I could, and even forced myself to listen to things I didn't quite like at first, to try to see what others heard in it, and appriciate the effort and talent that goes into making it.
I also realize that no music exists in a vacuum... all music comes from somewhere. Everybody is influenced by someone else, and in turn their influence was influenced by someone even further back. When I discover a new form of music, I always try to trace back to the roots of that music as far as I can go.

A couple of things sprang to mind while reading your responses (I'm not going to try a point by point thing...)

1.) If you've never heard a song or a band before, then isn't it "new" music (to you anyway) even if it was published years ago?
I only ask because I recently got into a band that I never paid much attention to in the past, XTC. I had heard a couple of things on the radio years ago, and more recently on internet radio, but had never bought one of thier albums. Prowling the local used CD shoppe a few weeks ago I came across one of thier CDs for under 3 bucks and decided to take a chance on it. It is freakin' brilliant! Yesterday I was in another CD place and emptied out the XTC bin... I bought everything they had. I consider it "new" music, even though none of the CDs are less than 10 years old.

2.) I listen to new music,.. I never said I didn't. In fact, since I work in the music industry it's kind of a pre-requisite to stay current if you want to keep working.
For the last decade or so I have worked in most of Boston's concert venues, and I have seen most of the top bands and artists, some of them before they hit really big. I saw the Bare Naked Ladies at a show I was working about 2 years before they had a big hit on the US charts and thought "These guys are great! They sould be famous!" I was happy when they did.
But I also try to be a bit discriminating when I listen. It becomes pretty apparent which hits are made in a spirit of crass commercialism, written to exploit a market and make a buck, and which are the real deal.

3.) Personally, I continue to follow artists I happen to like after they fall from the charts and the public eye. Just because radio isn't playing them anymore doesn't mean they aren't continuing to make great music.

4.) I think song popularity charts, Top 40 radio, TRL, and the like are the worst things to ever happen to music. These things aren't designed to promote music, but to sell radio and TV advertising. The music is secondary, if even that. It's a lowest common denominator thing... what can we promote that will appeal to the largest section of the public so that we can sell the most ads to bring in the most revinue?
So we all end up with lots of obviously crafted and super-produced 3-minute pop songs performed by pretty, young, barely talented (but photogenic,) interchangeable mannequins who can be taught which end of the mic to sing in and a couple of dance steps, and who can be promoted the hell out for a year or two, then quickly disposed when the public's interest wavers for even a millisecond and replaced with someone exactly the same while real musicians with real talent toil thier lifetimes away largely unrecognized.

Sorry,.. but it bugs me just a bit.


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