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Old 07-10-2004, 08:39 PM   #1
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Broken Sword Zone

Broken Sword Zone
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Old 07-10-2004, 10:29 PM   #2
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I heartily endorse this website. The fact that it fails to display correctly on Firefox, the browser of men, highly tarnishes it though.


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Old 07-11-2004, 04:19 PM   #3
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Technically, I shouldn't have to highlight to see the text. I'd compliment the site, but with this hanging over it as a bad thing, I can't really comment.

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Old 07-11-2004, 08:44 PM   #4
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Sorry to be the next guy lamenting something about the site, but why is it so small? It uses only ¼ of my screen. Everything is smallish.

You also make a common mistake of having the links appear the same as normal text. Try to make them distinguishable.

Tone down the background graphics in the areas where text is displayed.

I think everyone here would like to see your site. In its current form, that's not really a pleasure.

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Old 07-11-2004, 08:56 PM   #5
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...but please download and install Internet Explorer...
mmmh... i wonder if that "Internet Exploder" runs under linux...
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another idiot making an idiotic website i don't want to visit...




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Old 07-13-2004, 03:56 PM   #6
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mmmh... i wonder if that "Internet Exploder" runs under linux...
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another idiot making an idiotic website i don't want to visit...
Then don't visit it.
Or comment on it. If you don't actually have some praise or constructive critisism to add to this conversation, don't say anything, we really don't want to know about you opinion otherswise (and you're not justified in called Isak an idiot without anything to back that up, dumbass).

And Alien, at a guess, I'd say your running your computer at a resolution of 1280X1024, which is probably why it's only taking up a small portion of your screen (as appose to my 800X600 where it takes up a much larger portion, although still no more than half) but I do agree, if your gonna make a website, just do the normal version, no one likes the restriction your pop version gives, with no buttons and so on, it offers nothing else than creating a new annoying window which most people don't like.

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Old 07-14-2004, 01:34 AM   #7
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What idiot would run any computer other than a PocketPC in less than 1024x768? You shouldn't make web pages for a resolution/browser anyways.

If you were German, Isak, I'd advise to go to SelfHTML, read some of the articles (dos and don'ts) and hand-code the pages (with TextPad). Since you're not - unless I'm mistaken - maybe SitePoint is better suited.

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Old 07-14-2004, 10:46 AM   #8
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Quite a lot Alien, since various statistics show that more people use 800x600 than those that use higher than 1024x768.


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Old 07-14-2004, 12:16 PM   #9
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(and you're not justified in called Isak an idiot without anything to back that up, dumbass).
well, it was meant in some kind of funny way... sorry if that didn't come out right...

i just wanted to say that this page could have some informations i'd like to see, but since i'm running linux and don't want to use windoze, i can't read this page (which is a shame because one of the great advantages of html is that everyone can read it, no matter which operation system / encoding / browser / etc... you're using)




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Old 07-14-2004, 12:54 PM   #10
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Quite a lot Alien, since various statistics show that more people use 800x600 than those that use higher than 1024x768.
Whoa, you're not exactly right, Thrik, but I wouldn't have expected that so many people use lo-res.

Guess there's still a lot of people like the ones in my company who go like "with that setting I can't read anything".

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Old 07-14-2004, 01:04 PM   #11
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well, when i'm using a "normal" tty console, i've got 80x25 characters (640x480 pixel afaik)




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Old 07-14-2004, 02:29 PM   #12
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Yeah, the statistics aren't totally right because obviously there's no way to get a tolly of the entire internet's resolution, but most show that more people use 800x600 than quite a lot of designers think.

It's quite a shame really, because it really is a very restrictive resolution to design websites for in many cases - particularly hub websites.

Anyway, for some interesting statistics for the designers among us, check these out. As I said above, they don't cover the entire internet but they get a very high volume of traffic, as well as averaging their statistics with other large websites - so they are a pretty good benchmark to use if you're a web designer.

For example, until that 800x600 percentage drops quite considerably, we shouldn't cut them out of the loop. Just like designers should ensure that their website functions correctly on all browsers, since IE is slowly but surely losing its dominance.


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Old 07-14-2004, 03:03 PM   #13
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The computer I use for the internet (mainly) is 800X600 because both my parents have bad eyesight, and rather than change glasses all the time, they'd rather the text and icons be bigger (and their computers too slow). I know this is actually possible with higher resolution screens, but I don't see the point considering I use my laptop for almost everything else I do, which does have a higher resolution (and is much faster, and it's mine, not my parents).

Just to note, these forums (mi forums) look a lot better in 800X600, as the top graphic and the borders actually, almost, reach the edge of the screen and plus, a lot of toher websites take more advantage of lower resolution screens that higher because of the statistics (it's all statistics these days, why else was Sam n Max 2 cancelled (apart from LA being dumbasses)).

Oh, and Isak seems to have fixed the visibility thing where I couldn't see the text without highlighting it. I suppose the sites still in it's early stages as it isn't really much different from other BS sites I've seen.

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Old 07-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #14
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I just put it into 800x600, and these forums look terrible. Once you're used to higher resolutions, all of the text and icons and everything just look unbearably large and blocky.

I like a bit of gap between the edges of the screen anyway, heh.


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Old 07-16-2004, 03:18 PM   #15
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Ahem... Site is fixed for Firefox viewers. You could call me an idiot (the one that did it) but it's not cool to call someone something you are yourself!

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Old 07-16-2004, 08:32 PM   #16
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Thanks everybody for the constuctive critisism! It had slipped my mind that some people use 1240xbla bla... but im trying to find a solution for this... allthough i still reccomend people to use 800x600 or 1024x768, because all dudes i know uses it. and there was a reesaerch a magazine called internet world (swedish) did, all over the world. and their question to surfers was: what resolution do you use...?

most ppl answered: 800x600... but that was a year ago, maybe things have changed. anyways, I dont use 1240 because i cant see the text

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Old 07-17-2004, 01:26 PM   #17
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[...] but it's not cool to call someone something you are yourself!
no no, only an idiot can recognize fellow idiots...

well, like i stated above, that should have been funny in some way... sorry again, if offended i you (i really didn't mean to...)...




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Old 07-19-2004, 05:35 AM   #18
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sorry again, if offended i you (i really didn't mean to...)... [/B]
NOOO I HATE YOU No probs mate! I'm not offended I

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Old 07-19-2004, 08:49 PM   #19
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Woah, here's another case of design-crippling-content.

Frames are total weep.

The iframe-style box is totally not cool. If it was just a normal page, the text wouldn't wrap as much and there'd be a lot less scrolling.

Trying to read a large chunk of text ontop of an image is totally not nice on the eyes, less so when the image is fairly bright as it is.

The double-navigation is sort of annoying, having to click the top thing and then the side thing as well. Having both on the side would be much nicer, with it opening up like a folder tree view.

The main "introductory" page is pointless. It's not quite as bad as a flash intro, but it's on the same sort of level. The "pop" link is also pointless. Why would anyone want the site in a popup window? So they can view the site in tiny-form and the pointless intro page at the same time?


Make the design a lot more simple. Simplicity is beauty. I want to find out something about Broken Sword, and I want it now. I don't want to possibly find some information buried within a bloody art display.




Other that that, the page is fine.


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Old 07-20-2004, 07:28 PM   #20
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Woah, here's another case of design-crippling-content.

Frames are total weep.

The iframe-style box is totally not cool. If it was just a normal page, the text wouldn't wrap as much and there'd be a lot less scrolling.

Trying to read a large chunk of text ontop of an image is totally not nice on the eyes, less so when the image is fairly bright as it is.

The double-navigation is sort of annoying, having to click the top thing and then the side thing as well. Having both on the side would be much nicer, with it opening up like a folder tree view.

The main "introductory" page is pointless. It's not quite as bad as a flash intro, but it's on the same sort of level. The "pop" link is also pointless. Why would anyone want the site in a popup window? So they can view the site in tiny-form and the pointless intro page at the same time?


Make the design a lot more simple. Simplicity is beauty. I want to find out something about Broken Sword, and I want it now. I don't want to possibly find some information buried within a bloody art display.




Other that that, the page is fine.
Thanks mate! I just take that as constructive critisism, and yeah, I have thought about taking away the pop up version, as the index site is a little pointless...

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Old 07-21-2004, 01:00 AM   #21
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Isak! Im glad to see you again! Long time no see!

Nice site too!





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Old 07-21-2004, 06:45 PM   #22
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Cool mate!
I'm glad you like it!

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Old 11-03-2005, 02:13 PM   #23
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Aha!

Check out the new Broken Sword Zone at the same adress (bszone.tk) and please tell me what you think of it now!

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Old 11-03-2005, 05:29 PM   #24
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Nice, simple yet functional, well, almost. It could just be me, but we seem to have a problem with the drop down menus in Firefox, as shown below

I grudgingly tested the site in IE and it seemed to work well, putting a nice background colour behind the text for the popup menu. I have a feeling it might have something to do with some plugin I have for my Firefox browser (I have enough) so we'll have to wait till someone else tests it in Firefox.

Other than that, I can't see too much wrong with it. Good work.

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Old 11-03-2005, 05:56 PM   #25
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Great content, but I'd also have http://home.ripway.com/2005-4/298166/main.gif more faded so it's easier to read the text in front of it.

Generally though, it's a great site. Well done!

(And incidentally I have no pluggins but the same problem as Joshi, but again this only happens in Firefox)
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:20 PM   #26
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Thanks guys... Yes, the firefox "bug" is known, I'm going to e-mail firefox and ask for a script, so firefox users can have the background in the drop-down menu, I have also tested the website in firefox, and the menu with the transparent background is really disturbing.

Thanks about the main.gif, gabez, I'll get to that!

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Old 11-04-2005, 02:34 AM   #27
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Thanks guys... Yes, the firefox "bug" is known, I'm going to e-mail firefox and ask for a script, so firefox users can have the background in the drop-down menu, I have also tested the website in firefox, and the menu with the transparent background is really disturbing.
Don't mail them, fix your site yourself.

Just change background: CCC8AF; to background: #CCC8AF;. There are more colors that are wrongly formatted (like #ccc).

I don't like ads. Maybe I'm asking too much, but one can get HTML-only webspace quite cheap nowadays. Or you could apply for hosting on some adventure-themed site.

I don't like frames and sites made with bad WYSIWYG editors, either, but I'm aware that one can't have everything. Or has to get it somewhere else...

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Don't mail them, fix your site yourself.

Just change background: CCC8AF; to background: #CCC8AF;. There are more colors that are wrongly formatted (like #ccc).

I don't like ads. Maybe I'm asking too much, but one can get HTML-only webspace quite cheap nowadays. Or you could apply for hosting on some adventure-themed site.

I don't like frames and sites made with bad WYSIWYG editors, either, but I'm aware that one can't have everything. Or has to get it somewhere else...
Ah... Right... Thanks mate. Here's the website witouth banner ads:

http://home.ripway.com/2005-4/298166/

Broken Sword Zone does not use frames, (except for the .tk where the banner ad [which have just appeard on the website] and the website is made with Notepad...

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Oh, okay. And don't mind if I sounded a bit harsh. I was a little cranky all day.

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Hey, no problems! Everyone got their bad days.

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It's a hanky!

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Oh, there's something else in there.

*look at something else*

It's a hug!

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Old 11-04-2005, 11:18 AM   #33
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Just change background: CCC8AF; to background: #CCC8AF;. There are more colors that are wrongly formatted (like #ccc).
Actually, "#ccc" (#RGB) is correct...

http://de.selfhtml.org/css/formate/w...ung.htm#farben
"Anders als in HTML existiert auch eine Kurzschreibweise der Form #RGB. Hier werden die einzelnen Farbangaben intern verdoppelt, #08a steht demnach für #0088aa."




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Old 11-04-2005, 01:43 PM   #34
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I don't like ads. Maybe I'm asking too much, but one can get HTML-only webspace quite cheap nowadays. Or you could apply for hosting on some adventure-themed site.
Well Mojo would be happy to host Broken Sword Zone... even though it's not strictly LucasArts related we still think it would be cool to have it in the network. If you're interested just say so and we'll set you something up.
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Hi!
I'm very intresting in being hosted by the Mojo network!! It really makes me happy that you want to host BS Zone! It would be great if you could e-mail me with more information.

My e-mail is: superman2k@gmail.com

or

bszone@gmail.com

but the first one would be most suitable

Thanks,
Isak

oh right, you can add me on msn (superman2k@hotmail.com) or icq, 117468854.... it would be great if you added me on msn, since I don't use icq that much!

Thanks again!

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