WIP: Samurai Jack

Lil Killa · 07-29-2004, 07:48 PM

I saw this in the request forum a while back but I didn't know how to model and now that i know how I thought I would have a go at him. My progress is shown below

So does he look like Jack?

RaSiN_HeCk · 07-30-2004, 12:29 AM

I think the head's a tad bit big, and the Neck's very thick, other that. nice job.

Lil Killa · 07-30-2004, 12:45 AM

I'll se what I can do about the head and neck (they where a bit tough as I've never done a character model before..) I added the hands and have yet to do the feet.

EDIT:: You may notice some strange lines on the following shots... that was part of the bounding box that I could not remove....

LightNinja · 07-30-2004, 07:54 AM

nice, it looks like him, btw how you make that render with the wireframe over it?

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
nice, it looks like him, btw how you make that render with the wireframe over it?

That ain't no render, it's a screenshot! Can't you see the gray background?

Are you gonna make it CEL SHADED?

LightNinja · 07-30-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by tFighterPilot
Can't you see the gray background?

dont you know you can change background color in render?

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
dont you know you can change background color in render?

Of course I do, I changed it to green so I could easially remove the background while doing those stupid animated gifs of mine

But nobody would change it to gray.

Well that and the bounding box

Lil Killa · 07-30-2004, 03:16 PM

It's a screenshot and yes I do plan to cel-shade it (the shaderything and the outline)

I'm gonna need someone to get him in-game for me though....

LightNinja · 07-30-2004, 04:26 PM

that someone will get crazy to weight the legs correctly

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
that someone will get crazy to weight the legs correctly

I don't think it's that hard to weight a robe...

Matt-Liell · 07-30-2004, 05:08 PM

I like the way you've done the hand, awesome for a regular model but for JA itll be a little hard I think to weight those to the hand skeleton, might be better to go with the default hands.

Psyk0Sith · 07-30-2004, 05:21 PM

If you want to cell shade it, keep the polycount low...around 1500 tris.

Also you should build or fit the mesh around the skeleton (yes that means the cartoony proportions will be lost), then someone might consider compiling it.

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Psyk0Sith
If you want to cell shade it, keep the polycount low...around 1500 tris.

Look at the wireframe, I doubt that would be a problem

LightNinja · 07-30-2004, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by tFighterPilot
I don't think it's that hard to weight a robe...

Well you think that, but i think that weight a robe that only has the verts at the end of the cylinder is not hard of course, but the walk animation will be f*cked up

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
Well you think that, but i think that weight a robe that only has the verts at the end of the cylinder is not hard of course, but the walk animation will be f*cked up

Well it has been done before.

LightNinja · 07-30-2004, 05:34 PM

of course but it'd need at least one set of verts at the knees, and thats all :), btw, those hands can be perfectly weighted

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
of course but it'd need at least one set of verts at the knees, and thats all , btw, those hands can be perfectly weighted

Oh, yeah of course. Some cuts and it's all right.

Lil Killa · 07-30-2004, 09:20 PM

The hands had way too many polys so I choped some off.... eah finger has three segments to it....

I would builtd it to the skeleton but I'm using gamx so i have no way of knowing what it looks like....

As for the robe.... I can add another row of verts in the middle at about where the knees go... And the poly count should not be a problem. Since I lowered the amount on the hands the entire model right now is under 1,400. EDIT:: 1,362 to be exact.

EDIT::

Also... I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what I should do for under the robe... I was going to add some feet with a small bit of leg going into the robe. (all of that would end at around the knees) so that when the player jumped or died they would have something better to look at than a flat bottom... What are your thoughts?

RaSiN_HeCk · 07-30-2004, 09:43 PM

well, I think if you want to have Mutliple versions, you should make full legs so you can have Jack running around in his skiddies.
; P

but if you're just making the robed version, I think just feet and shins would do, except for those perverts looking up his robes = O!

tFighterPilot · 07-30-2004, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lil Killa
The hands had way too many verts so I choped some off.... eah finger has three segments to it....

I would builtd it to the skeleton but I'm using gamx so i have no way of knowing what it looks like....

As for the robe.... I can add another row of verts in the middle at about where the knees go... And the poly count should not be a problem. Since I lowered the amount on the hands the entire model right now is under 1,400. EDIT:: 1,362 to be exact.

EDIT::

Also... I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what I should do for under the robe... I was going to add some feet with a small bit of leg going into the robe. (all of that would end at around the knees) so that when the player jumped or died they would have something better to look at than a flat bottom... What are your thoughts?

make it simple, something like 8 polys

Lil Killa · 08-01-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by tFighterPilot
make it simple, something like 8 polys

hmm..... not sure I could do mall of that with only 8 polys....

Psyk0Sith · 08-01-2004, 11:32 AM

To "close" the bottom of the robe, look at mon mothma's mesh, that's a very good way to do it

-Just select the border edges, extrude inwards (hold shift + scale tool).

-Collapse the edges to a single vert and move it up a little.

Lil Killa · 08-01-2004, 11:36 PM

I'll try a few thing out Monday and post some screens

Cosmos Jack · 08-02-2004, 06:48 PM

Oh my someone is actually doing it......

DeathStriker · 08-04-2004, 02:19 PM

Great Model !

I don't mean to add more to your workload or anything. But I was wodering if you could edit that model a bit to make it look like an old video game character I really liked.

It is a great game called 'Little Big Adventure' (or 'Relentless' in America.) The character is called Twinsen. Have you ever played this game before?

I was wondering if you could release that as another model. Don't do it if you don't want to. I was only asking.

Screenshots

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If you decide to do this, Thanks alot.
If you don't want to. don't worry about it.

Thank you anyway

LightNinja · 08-05-2004, 05:15 PM

man if you could edite this model too to be like this one it would be nice too!!:
http://www.spaceart.de/Artikel/einz248-b.jpg

Lil Killa · 08-05-2004, 07:19 PM

lol ninja

as for striker.... I don't think I'll be modeling the blue thing..... looks too weird....

EDIT::

I did the feet/legs in about 10 minutes yesterday. I'll make a pic and upload it here sometime soon...

tFighterPilot · 08-05-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by LightNinja
man if you could edite this model too to be like this one it would be nice too!!:
http://www.spaceart.de/Artikel/einz248-b.jpg

That will do pig, that will do

Lil Killa · 08-10-2004, 12:46 AM

finaly got around to finishing up the mesh.

please note that I have fixed the un smoothed area under the robe

pc is 1520

tFighterPilot · 08-10-2004, 09:00 AM

Very clean

After the outline, the polycount would be doubled. But 3040 isn't too much

Lil Killa · 08-10-2004, 01:58 PM

after a lile bit of tweaking I got it down to 1476 which would make the outlined version 2952

Now I just need to map it

Psyk0Sith · 08-10-2004, 04:04 PM

...and adjust the proportions to fit the skeleton...unless you get someone else to do it for you.

Lil Killa · 08-10-2004, 04:14 PM

I can't.... I don't have a program that can load the skeleton.....

Most of the proportions should still be close to the same as the hips on the jack in the cartoons starts below his belt. The only things that I would see changing would be maybe the head size and/or the length of the robe. As I've never seen the skeleton I could be wrong...

Lil Killa · 08-19-2004, 09:24 PM

Seems I'm having alot of trouble trying to map this thing.... Is still don't know if anyone could export it for me either.

Help? Please?

*gets down on knees*

Lil Killa · 08-31-2004, 05:38 PM

After going back to maping for a while I decided I would take another go at trying to get the model UVed and I've gotten it figured out! The lines are smoother on the actual skin but as gmax doesn't like to anti-alias anything I'm stuck with jaggies...

Anyways... enough talk. On to Screens!

Still very WIP but any comments and suggestions are welcome as allways

RaSiN_HeCk · 08-31-2004, 07:08 PM

might just be the angle, but I think his feet should poke out just a little more.

Lil Killa · 08-31-2004, 07:17 PM

They look fine to me.. I always thought thy were sticking out too far...

RaSiN_HeCk · 08-31-2004, 09:51 PM

like I said, might be the angle

Lil Killa · 09-01-2004, 03:37 PM

http://www.lkmods.net/jack7.jpg

OK I'll go ahead an admit it... I'm not the best skinner. I think I've done a pretty good job on the orbe but the eyes and mouth have me stumped.... any ideas on what I should do to them?

Think I finishd his face.... What do you think?

All I have left are the hands/arms and feet/legs.

LightNinja · 09-02-2004, 03:54 AM

it is REALLY COOL