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Old 08-02-2004, 05:17 PM   #41
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To AJL: You are being extremely rude, if you want a recruit mod with voice actors better dialogue and the NPC being "normal" than make it for yourself go damnit, you have NO idea how much time and effort RedHawke put into this mod. Frankly you are pissing me off so you know what I'm going to do now, I'm going to spawn some NPC named AJL into my game and fry you with some Force Lightining, unleash each and every one of Darth Khasei's force powers on you and then cut your ass to bits with my lightsaber, if you'll excuse me I have a tiny bit of modding to do.

To RedHawke: Don't listen to this clown, I guess in the end that is why we should only make mods with ourselves in mind and then release them for others to use.


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Old 08-02-2004, 05:53 PM   #42
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LoL I got a whole module in the works with people I hate in it. Wanna combine them Mav? o.O lol




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Old 08-02-2004, 06:17 PM   #43
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LOL no thats okay, but you can add him in there and send it to me


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Old 08-02-2004, 07:51 PM   #44
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LoL you got it Mav! Maybe add you as an npc attacking him...




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Old 08-02-2004, 08:42 PM   #45
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That sounds awesome, you going to release this module?


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Old 08-02-2004, 10:54 PM   #46
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All I have to say is your Mod looks great though I have yet to try it.

TO those people that like to constantly critisize others work. Please take a moment to consider How much effort goes into making a mod even a simple one. (Which Redhawks mod is not)

The First and most important Step to installing any Mod is to READ the readme!
To those of you that may have a problem with the quality of a mod, Please keep your opinions to your self until you have completed a mod yourself. Rude comments will get you nowhere.

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Old 08-04-2004, 01:14 AM   #47
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Thanks T7!

You are very right, putting together a mod like this isn't easy, if it were then there would be a lot more mods.

Of course this mod, and many others out there, would not have been possible without the help of others like Darth333, and TK102.

And lets not all forget our KOTOR Modding Godfather... Fred Tetra, without whom we would all still be out in the modding cold, stumbling in the dark!


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Old 08-04-2004, 12:16 PM   #48
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putting together a mod like this isn't easy, if it were then there would be a lot more mods.
RedHawke, I have done 3 planets with your Mod and I am truly impressed! The custom items, journal entries, and descriptions really add to the game. It has given me more replayability unfortunately''
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Old 08-04-2004, 03:02 PM   #49
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Error/Spoiler... Or something...
spoiler:
When I entered to that Rakatan temple Jolee and RedHawke
joins with me... And when I go down to that computer room I
find RedHawke waiting for me in there... but RedHawke is still
also in my party... and after that Clone disappears and I open
the door with that computer and then try to get to the upper
level again my game crashes... (tried many times...)

Soo... RedHawke was Supposed to leave my party at some
point before I went down there ??
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Old 08-04-2004, 07:39 PM   #50
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AJL's problem could be due to a script named k_punk_re.ncs in the unk_m44ab module (where the computer is) but I am still unsure. I haven't found from where the script is fired and what is it's usefulness. Looking at the decompiled script, the same thing should happen with Jolee... anyone else had that problem? Decompiled, the script gives:
Code:
00000008 42 00000080              T 00000080
0000000D 1E 00 00000008           JSR fn_00000015
00000013 20 00                    RETN
00000015 05 00 0019 00            ACTION GetEnteringObject(0019), 00
0000001A 05 00 00D9 01            ACTION GetIsPC(00D9), 01
0000001F 04 03 00000001           CONSTI 00000001
00000025 0B 20                    EQUALII
00000027 1F 00 00000057           JZ off_0000007E
0000002D 04 03 00000000           CONSTI 00000000
00000033 04 05 0005 str           CONSTS "jolee"
0000003C 05 00 00C8 02            ACTION GetObjectByTag(00C8), 02
00000041 04 03 00000004           CONSTI 00000004
00000047 05 00 023E 02            ACTION AddPartyMember(023E), 02
0000004C 1B 00 FFFFFFFC           MOVSP FFFFFFFC
00000052 04 03 00000000           CONSTI 00000000
00000058 04 05 0006 str           CONSTS "juhani"
00000062 05 00 00C8 02            ACTION GetObjectByTag(00C8), 02
00000067 04 03 00000005           CONSTI 00000005
0000006D 05 00 023E 02            ACTION AddPartyMember(023E), 02
00000072 1B 00 FFFFFFFC           MOVSP FFFFFFFC
00000078 1D 00 00000006           JMP off_0000007E
0000007E 20 00                    RETN
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:09 PM   #51
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TO those people that like to constantly critisize others work. Please take a moment to consider How much effort goes into making a mod even a simple one. (Which Redhawks mod is not)
Well said as usual.

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Old 08-05-2004, 12:10 AM   #52
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AJL's problem could be due to a script named k_punk_re.ncs in the unk_m44ab module (where the computer is) but I am still unsure. I haven't found from where the script is fired and what is it's usefulness. Looking at the decompiled script, the same thing should happen with Jolee... anyone else had that problem?
Sorry AJL, I knew Bioware would have something in the game to rain on the parade.

The solution might be a script to just return to the party the replaced NPC called after the script to remove my pc, using a nested group of 'if' statements, testing for the number of the global, and returning to the party the NPC of that number.

Would that work Darth333?


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Old 08-05-2004, 12:23 AM   #53
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First, it would be good to verify if this script is really the cause. I don't see it attached anywhere in the module maybe i overlooked... and there is probably another script to remove them from your party first (that would explain the "twins")...
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:00 AM   #54
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First, it would be good to verify if this script is really the cause. I don't see it attached anywhere in the module maybe i overlooked... and there is probably another script to remove them from your party first (that would explain the "twins")...
I have been looking around in the modules myself and have no Idea why the game would crash, except that the game is looking for something, possibly hardcoded, and it is not there and then just freezes, so the quickest solution to the problem I can think of would be to replace the original NPC right after mine is removed, then whatever script or other call that is causing the crash to go to the temple summit would then get a satisfactory result instead.

I just made a possible fix, by replacing the original NPC after mine leaves the game, with Jolee and (possibly) Juhani also added to the current party in the temple catacombs as well.

Possibly my NPC tied the replaced NPC up and stuck them in a closet on the Ebon Hawk or something.

I'll have to test it first, and that will take some time, I'll have to do Manaan, and the Unk World again. I'll run through with the old scripts to try and replicate the problem, see if it happens to me, and then see if the fix works. If the problem happens and the fix works I'll zip it up and re-release as a bug-fix at pcgamemods.

I would really like to know has anyone else had this problem?


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Old 08-05-2004, 08:58 AM   #55
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OK everyone, I replicated AJL's crash problem, and boy was it a whopper to figure out.

While I still don't know what causes the crash, I have figured a way around it by removing RedHawke from the party BEFORE entering the temple, if you have replaced Juhani, RedHawke will appear with Jolee and enter the temple with you, but will now just vanish, leaving you to go through the temple with just Jolee. And hopefully eliminating the problem all together.

So I had to remove the option to replace Jolee, and add and remove a few files from the mod.

I will put the new version up for download ASAP!

NOTE TO ALL RECRUIT MODDERS:
I also found out another thing, you have to have Jolee in the party to get through the unknown world temple, if not then Bastila talks to you repeatedly and nothing else happens, so Jolee is off my replace list as well.


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Old 08-05-2004, 09:08 AM   #56
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OK everyone, I replicated AJL's crash problem, and boy was it a whopper to figure out.

While I still don't know what causes the crash, I have figured a way around it by removing RedHawke from the party BEFORE entering the temple, if you have replaced Juhani, RedHawke will appear with Jolee and enter the temple with you, but will now just vanish, leaving you to go through the temple with just Jolee. And hopefully eliminating the problem all together.

So I had to remove the option to replace Jolee, and add and remove a few files from the mod.

I will put the new version up for download ASAP!

NOTE TO ALL RECRUIT MODDERS:
I also found out another thing, you have to have Jolee in the party to get through the unknown world temple, if not then Bastila talks to you repeatedly and nothing else happens, so Jolee is off my replace list as well.
i wish you luck on your endevor for your recuritment mod, and i hope you can solve the solution asap as well

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Old 08-05-2004, 09:17 AM   #57
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Heh, guess it's a good thing I haven't got to Mannan yet in my new play through. Anxiously awaiting the update

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Old 08-05-2004, 09:47 AM   #58
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FiEND, Matt, and everyone else I just put v1.2 up at pcgamemods, check my first post in this thread for all future updates... I hope there isn't going to be many!

The problem was in replacing Jolee or Juhani, but I fixed that... Had to remove the option of replacing Jolee Bindo though. It ran fine with Juhani on my machine, if you replace Juhani with RedHawke she will show up with Jolee and even run into the temple with you, and now she will then just disappear once you are inside.

Hopefully solving the problem.


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Old 08-05-2004, 10:03 AM   #59
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I did not have time to look at it more deeply yet but is everything ok Redhawke?
I'll see if I can find a way to fix Jolee's problem.Perhaps simply removing the reference to the scripts that remove Jolee and Juhani from your party when you do the tile thing. Perhaps player could go into solo mode manually. I don' t know yet if it would work, I have to look more deeply at the contents of the scripts around this point of the game.

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Old 08-05-2004, 10:08 AM   #60
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FiEND, Matt, and everyone else I just put v1.2 up at pcgamemods, check my first post in this thread for all future updates... I hope there isn't going to be many!
Hey Thx RedHawke, i was the first person to DL it seriously

oh and does your mod conflict with Svosh's Revan Redemtion Robes?

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DOES YOUR MOD CONFLICT WITH SVOSH'S REVAN REDEMTION ROBES??? hehe sorry but you missed it..... i think


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Old 08-05-2004, 10:30 AM   #61
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I did not have time to look at it more deeply yet but is everything ok Redhawke?
I'll see if I can find a way to fix Jolee's problem.
Well everything seems to work, with removing RedHawke before going into the unknown world temple, as long as the k_punk_pretempl2 script is called when entering the temple either way (With the Elders or The One), I just removed my NPC then. Because once in the temple the NPC commands for the party must be disabled.

The only thing now is that RedHawke is standing in front of the Temple as well as a Elder Rakatan, you can talk to them but she is no longer part of the party... Wierd!

As far as the Jolee problem anything you can find out would be cool Darth333!

EDIT: OK removed the RedHawke that remained in front of the temple but the Elder Rakatan remains... still wierd! But it doesn't seem to effect anything.

EDIT2: Matt as both Svosh's Revan Redemption Robes and My Mod both use appearance.2da, they will have to be merged to be compatable.

EDIT3: Posted Version 1.3 up at pcgamemods.


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Old 08-05-2004, 12:53 PM   #62
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Would you send me the source code? It would be easier for me to test things out.
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EDIT2: Matt as both Svosh's Revan Redemption Robes and My Mod both use appearance.2da, they will have to be merged to be compatable.

Thx i just had a problem with it once i installed it, i had my game running whilst installing the mod it sorted now

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Old 08-06-2004, 05:26 AM   #64
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Would you send me the source code? It would be easier for me to test things out.
Darth333 source scripts sent.

I hope we can figure a way to add Jolee back in as replaceable. But no worries if we don't! I find him humorous anyway!

That still leaves everyone with the option to replace any of the 6 others, still a very good thing.

Further tested V1.3 with Juhani as the NPC replaced, and everything works now, no crashes... Whew!


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Heads up on the release of Version 1.4 of the mod. (Hopefully it's the Final version! For Now! )

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Thanks to a good question by someone called IAmAJedi13 at pcgamemods, I corrected a Missing NPC breaking the 'Carth running off' Dialogue on Unknown World, when going Darkside.
The cure was to return the replaced NPC back into the party, all reappear but Juhani, so the dialogue will work correctly, Carth will whine at you and run off, etc.

If you have any of the previous versions of the mod, install this one over the earlier version ASAP, before going into the temple and, as long as you haven't replaced Jolee, all should be good with the universe!

Darth333 and I are looking at the possibility of going through the temple without Jolee, returning the ability to have Jolee be replaceable, so that function may return to this mod in the future!

So if you have replaced Jolee all hope may not be lost for your save game, just don't go into the temple yet!

Sorry for all the updates... but at least it shows everyone here at Holowan my dedication to my work... Right?

*Sound of crickets chirping... sees everyone staring blankly this direction, then Phases quickly into hyperspace*


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Old 08-08-2004, 09:37 PM   #66
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I just LOVE your RedHawke NPC. I rate it 10/10! When I downloaded and tested it, I started to wonder if I could make my own NPC character; but there's one big problem, I don't know how! Could you please give me a list of programs and steps in how to make an NPC (if it's not too much trouble). Thanks!


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I just LOVE your RedHawke NPC. I rate it 10/10! When I downloaded and tested it, I started to wonder if I could make my own NPC character; but there's one big problem, I don't know how! Could you please give me a list of programs and steps in how to make an NPC (if it's not too much trouble). Thanks!
Try these:

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=131944
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=123668

Both of these, as well as several other helpful tutorials, can be found in the sticky threads at the top of this page.

I hope that helps.
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Thanks sith_master2000, I'm glad you like it!

As far as making your own NPC for KOTOR sith_master2000, the ever vigilant and helpful Achillies, has pointed you in the right direction, the first link, Darth333's How to Recruit an NPC in 10 Steps thread, is the exact one I used to get the Job done for my recruit mod, the second is dj_owen's Deconstructing the Yuthura Mod thread is also very useful.

I hope you do decide to make an NPC sith_master2000, the more the merrier I always say!


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No further bug reports with the Mod?

I'll take this as a good sign then!


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Working on it Redhawke, the only problem is that there are only 24 hours in a day
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Actually Darth333, I was referring to anyone having problems with the mod in its current incarnation (Release Version 1.4).

That statement was in NO WAY aimed your direction!


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I did not took it personally at all, just wanted to let you know
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Old 08-12-2004, 02:52 PM   #73
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i am having an error where redhawke looks like a blue Revan...wtf?...i tried looking at appearance.2da for problems but it should work from wat i see...its strange...im using the revan the white version of appearance.2da btw


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Old 08-12-2004, 11:51 PM   #74
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i am having an error where redhawke looks like a blue Revan...wtf?...i tried looking at appearance.2da for problems but it should work from wat i see...its strange...im using the revan the white version of appearance.2da btw
And you copied all of the files in the 'Use With RTWSF' folder and overwrote the normal ones unzipped your override as well, right?

You have to copy all of those .utc and .uti files as well as the .2da's in the 'Use With RTWSF' subfolder or it will refrence a different line in the appearance.2da and the wrong things will show up.

I hope this helps!


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Old 08-16-2004, 01:27 AM   #75
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Umm, I know this isn't about this mod but I just used another mod by RedHawke which is called Revan the Light or something like that. I noticed a bug which really messes up the Star Forge level. After landing on the Star Forge and going through the door there would be a cut scene which shows one of Malak's servants activating the battle droids but it got skipped. People said you could just continue by going through the other doors like you normally would. But the problem is that there are a pair of battle droids in both doors so it clogs up the passageway. Since the cutscene didn't trigger the droids won't move and you can't attack so I'm stuck and can't continue on the level. It really needs a bug fix, other than that bug the mod was great, I loved the robes. Thank you.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:34 AM   #76
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You mean this mod here?

Revan/Sith/Bastila Item Pack Bug Thread

The fix for the Star Forge bug is in the first post. And a patch for this bug is available on pcgamemods.

I hope this helps!


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Old 08-16-2004, 01:55 AM   #77
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Thanks sith_master2000, I'm glad you like it!

As far as making your own NPC for KOTOR sith_master2000, the ever vigilant and helpful Achillies, has pointed you in the right direction, the first link, Darth333's How to Recruit an NPC in 10 Steps thread, is the exact one I used to get the Job done for my recruit mod, the second is dj_owen's Deconstructing the Yuthura Mod thread is also very useful.

I hope you do decide to make an NPC sith_master2000, the more the merrier I always say!
Well I tried using the tutorial done by Darth333 several times to make an npc but none of the attempts worked ! I guess recruiting isn't my place in KotOR , even though that's what I want to do the most!!!


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Old 08-16-2004, 02:22 AM   #78
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Maybe you could post you questions. As I said in the tutorial ( i think I said that -it's 2 am and i am too lazy to check), If something is not clear, just ask and I will answer and edit the tut
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Thanks, got it all fixed now. I went to this thread because I know RedHawke is here. Wearing those robes makes me feel like Gandalf the White Excellent mod!
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Thanks, got it all fixed now. I went to this thread because I know RedHawke is here.
I'm glad it all got sorted out!

Just so you know there is a Patch available at pcgamemods that will re-add the lost items from those 2 files into a new Footlocker on the Endar Spire.

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Wearing those robes makes me feel like Gandalf the White Excellent mod!
Thanks RubADucky, I'm glad you liked it!


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