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Old 12-01-2003, 08:05 PM   #1
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Question What's your religion and why?

There is nothing in your profile that says what religion you follow or what ever. It's kind of an interesting topic. I'm augnostic (I know I probably didn't spell it right lol). I don't know or really care what to believe. So anyway, anyone got anything to say about their religion?


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Old 12-01-2003, 08:11 PM   #2
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Nondenominational. I am my own church. So when I take up collection, I don't get alot when the bowl comes back. But then again, I don't have to split it with the damn choir.


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Old 12-01-2003, 08:34 PM   #3
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Roman Catholic (gah)
I'm only mad at it because I was born into it, and didn't get to chose. They dunked me in the water before I could complain.

I was thinking of going Witch. I've got Celtic backgrounds,and its very interesting to me. But its very dangerous and littered with posers and conflicting opinions. Gah.

Right now, I'm not sure what I am. I go to Catholic school, and have to go to mass, but I still frequently do Tarot and kept my Witch books.


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Old 12-01-2003, 08:36 PM   #4
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Took Buddhism recently. I love life, and those bastards from the Swamp

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Old 12-01-2003, 08:39 PM   #5
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I read somewhere that Buddism is one of the purest religions because its principals are simple and basic, and theres no gods to agrue about.

Is that true?
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Old 12-01-2003, 08:51 PM   #6
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I read somewhere that Buddism is one of the purest religions because its principals are simple and basic, and theres no gods to agrue about.

Is that true?
If you mean what is written about Buddhism, than it's true. God is not an arguable conept in reality for faith itself is only personal. One man can't destroy other man's conception. Buddhism is more a feeling rather than a collection of commandments to practice. And it doesn't restrict me in my search.
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Old 12-01-2003, 08:54 PM   #7
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I'm Roman Catholic, because I was born into it, and I don't see anything wrong with it




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Old 12-01-2003, 08:57 PM   #8
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Old 12-01-2003, 09:15 PM   #9
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If I had to choose one, I'd be Buddhist... But I'm not disciplined enough to be considered a "true" Buddhist.

The thing I like about it is, yes... it really takes the good parts of religion (be nice to your neighbor, don't kill people, be happy) and leaves the BAD stuff out (infidels, jihads, damnation)

There's nothing to fight over in Buddhism. Because it's just about living a good life. How can you denounce that? It's almost more just a set of standards to live your life rather than a religion.
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Old 12-01-2003, 09:20 PM   #10
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Where are any of you getting the idea that being born into your parents religion, automatically makes you that religion, and that you have no choice? Worship Satan.


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Old 12-01-2003, 10:00 PM   #11
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Old 12-01-2003, 10:46 PM   #12
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Old 12-01-2003, 11:10 PM   #13
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I could be wrong but it doesn't matter what your parents or whatever are, it matters what YOU want to believe. I myself live in a very strict Christian family with no ties to the outside world (no movies past y7 or sometimes y, no chatting, ect. but I've gotten around that ). I mean, as you grow up you decide what you want to do with your life and sometimes it includes religion. Buddhism sounds pretty cool cause there's no breaking down any other principals/gods. NICE As for you Darth Eggplant, you're cool too cause you don't give a ****. lol

BTW ppl, I beleive also that you don't actually have to have a religion to be a "kind and decent human being" also. You can have both

Orca Wail, what is being a witch exactly? I'm curious.


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Old 12-01-2003, 11:16 PM   #14
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LOL... I know Im gonna piss alot of swampies off, but if anyone hasnt caught on yet, Im a Christian and not scared to say it.

Was I forced to be a christian? no.
Why am I a christian? Well my friend, its a long story, but to make is short and sweet (more short, not so sweet), this dawg almost died, and was given a second chance... somthing budah, allah(sp?) or any other "god" has not been able to do for me.

I dont nag on people for thier belief(s) or go around telling them they are wrong... everyone can believe what they want and all I can do is set an example by living my life.

I'd like to point out, that Im not like MOST christians... I have alot of opinions of my own. Many things I have heard from "pastors" or "leaders" of the church, I have resurched for myself and found out that they are clearly wrong... anyways, thats me and thats how I roll.
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Old 12-01-2003, 11:27 PM   #15
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This really belongs in the Senate Chambers...

I'm a Christian. My parents are Christians, but that's not the reason I am. The rest of my relatives aren't. I've read the bible, and I have a very good pastor, and that's enough for me to believe that God is real. I don't want to piss anyone off, but: I think witchcraft is worng (Sorry Orca), and that Catholics aren't Christians. I'm not going to go any further because a lot of you probably want to kill me now.

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Old 12-01-2003, 11:30 PM   #16
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LOL... I know Im gonna piss alot of swampies off, but if anyone hasnt caught on yet, Im a Christian and not scared to say it.

Was I forced to be a christian? no.
Why am I a christian? Well my friend, its a long story, but to make is short and sweet (more short, not so sweet), this dawg almost died, and was given a second chance... somthing budah, allah(sp?) or any other "god" has not been able to do for me.

I dont nag on people for thier belief(s) or go around telling them they are wrong... everyone can believe what they want and all I can do is set an example by living my life.

I'd like to point out, that Im not like MOST christians... I have alot of opinions of my own. Many things I have heard from "pastors" or "leaders" of the church, I have resurched for myself and found out that they are clearly wrong... anyways, thats me and thats how I roll.
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Old 12-01-2003, 11:35 PM   #17
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My parents are the same way, its just that they don't keep it to themselves and I don't believe they actually look things up anymore.

I have a few questions for you ZDwag:
1. Where does it say in the Bible in the Old Testament that you can have multiple wives? (why do all the kings have them)
2. "God" says that he "never changes" or something along these lines, so how come when in the "New Testament" they go all off into how its worng to commit what I think they call adultery?
3. It's all good and righteous when someone kills when they're in the army but then you can't just self protect (you know when "Jesus" says that you have to "offer the other cheek")?

Could you please answer these questions for me. I'm just curious. And please don't say anything like "thats not the meaning" or "what are you talking about?" or "it never says this" cause I actually want to know. This always bothered me about my parents religion.


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Old 12-01-2003, 11:39 PM   #18
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Sorry about the double post, but I also want to say that it's cool to have a religion, just not try to FORCE everyone else to it also, only care about yourself. Good point DWAG. I still want to get the answers to my questions though


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Old 12-01-2003, 11:40 PM   #19
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This really belongs in the Senate Chambers...

I'm a Christian. My parents are Christians, but that's not the reason I am. The rest of my relatives aren't. I've read the bible, and I have a very good pastor, and that's enough for me to believe that God is real. I don't want to piss anyone off, but: I think witchcraft is worng (Sorry Orca), and that Catholics aren't Christians. I'm not going to go any further because a lot of you probably want to kill me now.
Catholics are Christians? Why not? First there was the Christian Church, then that split into Roman Catholic Church and The Eastern Orthodox Church. Then the protests began in the Roman Catholic Church. So...how are Catholics not Chrisitian? We follow the New Testament and belive Jesus Christ is our Savior, and that defines Christian.
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\Chris*tian"i*ty\, n. [OE. cristiente, OF. cristient['e], F. chr['e]tient['e], fr. L. christianitas. ] 1. The religion of Christians; the system of doctrines and precepts taught by Christ.
So there. Unless Catholics don't believe in Christ, then you're wrong Joe. No offense.

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Sorry about the double post, but I also want to say that it's cool to have a religion, just not try to FORCE everyone else to it also, only care about yourself. Good point DWAG. I still want to get the answers to my questions though
I agree, although Christians are supposed to "witness" to other people. It's the other person's choice whether or not he chooses to listen.

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Old 12-01-2003, 11:42 PM   #21
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My parents are the same way, its just that they don't keep it to themselves and I don't believe they actually look things up anymore.

I have a few questions for you ZDwag:
1. Where does it say in the Bible in the Old Testament that you can have multiple wives? (why do all the kings have them)
2. "God" says that he "never changes" or something along these lines, so how come when in the "New Testament" they go all off into how its worng to commit what I think they call adultery?
3. It's all good and righteous when someone kills when they're in the army but then you can't just self protect (you know when "Jesus" says that you have to "offer the other cheek")?

Could you please answer these questions for me. I'm just curious. And please don't say anything like "thats not the meaning" or "what are you talking about?" or "it never says this" cause I actually want to know. This always bothered me about my parents religion.
It's as easy as Old and New testament. With the coming of Christ, depending on your belief system of course, people are no longer under the "Old Law" of the Old Testament, but are now under the "New Law" of the New Testament. You basically answered your own question.


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Old 12-01-2003, 11:50 PM   #22
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I'm Ukrainian Catholic (which follows the Greek Catholic), so even though i am not roman catholic, i'm still a catholic. Difference is that the church is more traditional and orthodox like, ie, singing in the church, easter and christmas are at the orthodox times. Still, I only go to Ukrainian church at important times and the times when I do go to church, its just to the Roman Catholic local Church down the street, because the Ukrainian church is further away than the local church.




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Old 12-01-2003, 11:55 PM   #23
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I really hope the people who typically bash christianity and other religions dont come in here....if so this is gonna end up locked down faster than something that's really really fast.



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This really belongs in the Senate Chambers...

Well put.

No offense, but this thread in the swamp is the equivilent to a lit match in a dynamite factory.

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Inevitably it will, but probably as much for comments like this...

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I don't want to piss anyone off, but: I think witchcraft is worng (Sorry Orca), and that Catholics aren't Christians.
... as anything else that would be said.


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Old 12-02-2003, 12:22 AM   #26
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Ya, I know. But's it kinda fun/interesting before this happens.

CapNColostomy, well I just want to know the facts from a person who says that he researched it. I once or twice asked my parents something liike this and they just said a bunch of nothing. I kinda want a real answer. No offense to yours of course though


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Old 12-02-2003, 12:36 AM   #27
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I'm a Christian, though I don't go to church anymore. I feel that as long as you love God and believe that Jesus is the only way to eternal life and salvation, then that's all you really need to be a Christian.

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I'm sorry, but I disagree. I see Catholicism (sp?) as simply a different denomination of Christianity, much as Baptists and Lutherans are different denominations of the Protestants. They believe in the same God and they believe that Jesus is the Savior.

Besides, we have to keep in mind that it was the Catholic church that kept Christianity alive during its early years. It was Catholic monks who painstakingly wrote copies of the Bible, which is perhaps the only reason it's still around today. Besides, there would have been no Protestants if there were no Catholics now, would there?


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Actually in history class I learned that Christianity was created then the Catholic church was, then is separated. And now you get all the different beliefs of the ppl that broke off originaly. just a thought, really don't know though. It sounded good when I worte it for homework anyway


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Old 12-02-2003, 01:16 AM   #29
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Orca Wail, what is being a witch exactly? I'm curious.
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Ah, here's where we get into dangerous territory, one reason why I'm reluctent to go Witch...
*APOLOGIZES IN ADVANCE TO ANY WICCAS:I don't claim to know everything*

Definition 1: Someone who is close to nature

Def 2: Someone who practices WitchCraft

Def 3: A Satanist...these people REALLY DO EXSIST...proceed with caution

Def 4: A whacko who wears a star and claims to be a witch because he/she wants attention...aka a poser

In other words, its very vague...one reason why I'm scared to jump in. I want to do it, sincerly, truthfully, and with my all, but I'm so confused.

If you're that curious, go digging.
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Which one of the definitions do you believe most in to be what it means to be a "witch"? I'd go with that, I can't really say, never heard of this before, saw the "posers" before though.


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saw the "posers" before though.
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Because frankly, the idea of one omnipotent being that can control everything is sheer idiocy in my eyes. It used to be so easy when I was a kid, with the whole God in Heaven and He's always watching. Then I got common sense.
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Baseball? It's a good thing you used that analogy and not volleyball or tennis, or I would have sent it back to your side of the net


Anyway... thanks. We don't have enough religion threads yet to meet our quota.



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Baseball? It's a good thing you used that analogy and not volleyball or tennis, or I would have sent it back to your side of the net


Anyway... thanks. We don't have enough religion threads yet to meet our quota.

Probably because I keep tossing them your way...

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Orca Wail, what is being a witch exactly? I'm curious.
A man or woman who expects to exert supernatural power without any assistance from a supernatural being.

Contrary to pop culture, either gender can be a witch. Witchcraft is a very real belief among cultures all over the world... but we've commercialized it in the West with everything from Wicca (a "religion" invented by an anthropologist) to the TV show "Charmed."

Edit: Not that I'm saying that "witchcraft" itself is real... just the fact that the "belief" exists in many cultures.


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Sorry pal, but you know what it was like BEFORE we had a Senate Forum Remember?
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No problem! I was just giving you a hard time.
Same here. You know if you want, you COULD merge all the religion threads into one, and sticky it. Let me know if you need any help.
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So there. Unless Catholics don't believe in Christ, then you're wrong Joe. No offense.
That Catholics are not Christian is a popular belief among many fundamentalist christians as a way of invalidating Catholism while validating their own dogma. It has it's roots in the Protestant Reform period, but was "revived" in the recent past with evangelical Baptists.

Basically, it's propaganda supported only by fundamentalists who desire to keep their flock and pressure Catholics to convert. Though, I'm sure that there are many who've come to believe it to be true since the fundamentalists who argue it provide various justifications.


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Same here. You know if you want, you COULD merge all the religion threads into one, and sticky it. Let me know if you need any help.
You mean as opposed to letting them die their own "thread deaths" I can keep them around forever?

Actually, I've cosidered it... I'll review some of the threads and see if that works. Maybe glean a few relavent posts from various threads.... I did this with one already... evolution was creeping into the "bash christianity criticize religion" thread.


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