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Old 09-16-2004, 03:07 PM   #1
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What do you hope is improved from Knghts 1

Personally, the whole overall story of knights i want improved, it seemed that the star forge was more secondary, and it seemed more like something out of star trek. I wanted to askall of you do you believe this game will be more like one of the movies which one


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Old 09-16-2004, 03:52 PM   #2
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The Dark Side. No more of the dark alley thug mugging old ladies for cash. My biggest disappointment in K1.

& from what I've read, I think it will most resemble ESB. Just from whatshisnames, the writers said about not having the good guys win everything all the time, about leaning towards a darker vein, & going for more of an ESB feel for the story. Damn I can't wait..

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Old 09-16-2004, 04:06 PM   #3
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The Dark Side. No more of the dark alley thug mugging old ladies for cash. My biggest disappointment in K1.
I hope this is different in TSL as well.

I can't wait either ... Here's to 2 months of spoiler avoidance.

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Old 09-16-2004, 04:09 PM   #4
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Better DS play.

I'd like my DS dialog choices to be more sinister. Yeah, I felt like crap when I stole the Wraid Plate from Sharina but it would have been much more DS to convince her to enslave herself to a Hutt to earn the money...or something like that.

It seemed like 99% of the DS options were just mean, not really evil. Know what I mean?
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Old 09-16-2004, 06:17 PM   #5
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Better DS play.

I'd like my DS dialog choices to be more sinister. Yeah, I felt like crap when I stole the Wraid Plate from Sharina but it would have been much more DS to convince her to enslave herself to a Hutt to earn the money...or something like that.
I agree. Much more creative ways of doing DS things would be nice, the Sharina enslaving herself to a Hutt is a nice touch Achillies .

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It seemed like 99% of the DS options were just mean, not really evil. Know what I mean?
Exactly, that was my whole problem with the DS in KOTOR, it just didn't feel right. Oh well, we can hope it will be better done in KOTOR:TSL can we.


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Old 09-16-2004, 06:22 PM   #6
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^^^^ Exactly. Like making the Sith Hopeful outside of Korriban academy attack the guard, not really evil, but mean. Also, interrogating the mandalorian in the academy. If it's a SITH ACADEMY wouldn't that thing have both execution and torture commands...? Just filling him full of drugs to make him spill wasn't that evil, just sorta mean. (Also, the Republic drugs the sith prisoner full of stuff on Manann to help you with the "interrogation )

Only thing thats truly evil SPOILERS!!!

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KIlling Jolee and Juhani on the Sith temple (they were good friends and traveling companions...especially jolee )
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If any one else thinks of anything evil (except Malak giving the order to turn Taris into dust, thats a big evil!) by all means post it here, id like to see what you think.

Also, better inventory and more items, heads, npc heads, dialouge, characters, yeah. Also, flowing capes (which they are doing!! YES! )


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Old 09-16-2004, 10:35 PM   #7
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Having Zalbar
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Layeth the death on Mission by way of mindtrick was pretty nasty. O & telling Tanis<?> you were going to sip ice water while he broiled in the twin suns was pretty cruel as well
Hmmm.. thats all I got. The rest was just the 'give me your credits!!' foolishness.

I'd also like to see improved ranged weapons, better enemy/party AI, bigger worlds, swoop upgrades, a tougher game (on difficult it was a breeze).

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Old 09-17-2004, 03:46 AM   #8
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I think they need to make more skins for the NPCs. They also need to make place like the city more alive.

I thought the Darkside choices were still pretty evil. Like you could make choices that were pretty much plain old selfish like. It would be sort of dumb to take away the mean Darkside choices because those were half of the game's humour, and the other half was hitting on Bastila.

Oh, and about the X-box. I think I will play Kotor2 in December while sipping a glass of icewater!



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Old 09-17-2004, 03:54 AM   #9
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:51 AM   #10
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There was one evil line I really liked, and that was the sipping icewater line with that droidsurrounded man on Tatooine. Though I'm not sure if it was female only, haven't tested it with my male the first time through (but I don't think it should make any defference), I was going light after all. Right now I'm just experimenting options. Though I would like the option to actually do so, now he just started to jump around. And the Force Choke on that man in the cantina was worth it, I just can't resist there, but he survived, so I don't really consider it evil and I want some really dark options.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:28 AM   #11
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i hope they make t3-m4 a bit betterer. NO USELESS CHARACTERS!!

and i hope they focus a little more on you as a main character, instead of this bastila is more important then you!

more character creation options, when i was a soldier, i rathered run around in my underwears then the uniform at the start!

the side quests seemd to have no depth and there just wasnt enough of the blasted things...

but at the same time if they changed bugger all, i could play it for not even hours, weeks on end!


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Old 09-17-2004, 05:51 AM   #12
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hmm, if i had it my way, darkside options would be to:
1. blow up a crowded cantina or

2. gas a room full of children or

3. force lightning a room full of captives (that you were supposed to rescue) or

4. gull a woman (or man) into thinking that you liked them so that you can get your mission accomplished (and then break the bad news to them, then just kill them outright ) or

5. order an army to slaughter a city of innocents or

6. slaughter a city of innocents yourself (extra XP!!!) or

7. force choke someone off a cliff (a la JA ) or

8. force choke a city leader into letting you control it or

9. come up with better ideas yourself...


ain't being evil grand????


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Old 09-18-2004, 02:27 PM   #13
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Perhaps not waiting three patches until finally getting a bug-free version?


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Old 09-18-2004, 02:38 PM   #14
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^^^ Werd. Best idea I've seen yet besides framerates.

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Old 09-18-2004, 08:04 PM   #15
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I agree with FiEND who is agreeing with Herminator. Silky smooth framerates, and no bugs is a very good thing.


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Old 09-20-2004, 01:35 AM   #16
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Wich version is the bugged one, because my PC version did it perfectly, apart from any of the usual bug my damn PC has. The only problem I encountered was that it didn't really overwrite my old saves, well it did do so in the save/load screen, but I didn't get the MBs back, so I had to defrag my drive every few weeks, but that migt just be a lack of storage space. Other than that no bugs or framerate problems with my version.
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Old 09-20-2004, 05:08 AM   #17
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Perhaps not waiting three patches until finally getting a bug-free version?
still finding bugs, although that may have more to do with the 1800+ files in my override...


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Old 09-22-2004, 12:35 PM   #18
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still finding bugs, although that may have more to do with the 1800+ files in my override...
Ditto here....
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Perhaps not waiting three patches until finally getting a bug-free version?
Ditto here....
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1. blow up a crowded cantina or

2. gas a room full of children or

3. force lightning a room full of captives (that you were supposed to rescue) or

4. gull a woman (or man) into thinking that you liked them so that you can get your mission accomplished (and then break the bad news to them, then just kill them outright ) or

5. order an army to slaughter a city of innocents or

6. slaughter a city of innocents yourself (extra XP!!!) or

7. force choke someone off a cliff (a la JA ) or

8. force choke a city leader into letting you control it or

9. come up with better ideas yourself...


ain't being evil grand????
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:27 AM   #19
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I would love to Force Choke Carth when Bastila wanted to go somewhere more private, imagine this.

[Bastila]

Maybe we should go someplace more private

[/Bastila]

PC Force Chokes Carth

[PC]

Is this better?

[/PC]

[Bastila]

Much better

[/Bastila]

And also I would like to Force Choke those children that are harassing the alien on Taris (yes I know it's very sick and very DS) and after the alien thanks you for helping him, tell him that you didn't do it for free and demand that he'll give you something in return and then kill him as well.

I really should figure out how this works on the text editor. Too bad my damn PC is a bit too slow now.

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:34 AM   #20
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The only thing I would really like implemented would be stashable weaponry. It was okay that you'd always carry your weapon in your hand, but a little unrealistic. If Obsidian could add a little holster-and-draw sequence, that would make my day.

It would also be cool if your character could explore romantic relationships with any of the NPCs in the party, within reason. I mean, I wasn't exactly gonna go for Jolee or Zaalbar, but I thought Mission was pretty cute. That would be really neat. In addition, the ability to choose a race would be really wicked. I mean, it's okay to be just a simple human, but it would be awesome to be a Twi'lek or a Devaronian. Once again, within reason.




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Old 09-23-2004, 06:03 AM   #21
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I wasn't exactly gonna go for Jolee or Zaalbar, but I thought Mission was pretty cute.
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While I agree with you that Jolee is not desirable Mission is a little to young to *a-hem-hem* get together with you. Also I for one would not like to have a romantic relationship with that old hag.


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Old 09-23-2004, 06:16 AM   #22
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Actually, most of the stuff I'd like to see changed/added have already been confirmed by the devs...

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Old 09-23-2004, 07:48 AM   #23
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:04 AM   #25
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Wondering that myself. & I thought Obsidian were the people handling the production/design of TSL, not Bioware. Besides I'm not really into Bio's forums, how many Gizka Vs. Tach Vs. Vader Vs. Jango Fett threads can you have before it gets ridiculous?

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I agree FiEND! It gets ridiculous very fast!


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Old 09-25-2004, 12:35 PM   #28
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well i would like a better force persuade options

like {you want to give me the droid}

or {credits will do fine} lol although that didn't work for Qui Gon Jin lol

or maybe {you don't need to see my document papers}
and {i can go about my business}
and{move along}

hey it worked for obi wan in eps4

and just like i agree that the pistols should be holstered while in transit what about the lightsabers shouldn't the hang from your belt

and i think that if ur pc hasnt got the power to force persuade powerfully enough and ur npc does u can use them independantly to do so not like in kotor where if you used a npc the character u spoke to still had a dialogue with ur pc


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Old 09-25-2004, 12:42 PM   #29
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also if a door is locked y not use the force to open it and if u own a astro droid and a protocol droid when having a convo the protocol droid can translate what the astro droid is saying


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The only thing I would really like implemented would be stashable weaponry. It was okay that you'd always carry your weapon in your hand, but a little unrealistic. If Obsidian could add a little holster-and-draw sequence, that would make my day.

It would also be cool if your character could explore romantic relationships with any of the NPCs in the party, within reason. I mean, I wasn't exactly gonna go for Jolee or Zaalbar, but I thought Mission was pretty cute. That would be really neat. In addition, the ability to choose a race would be really wicked. I mean, it's okay to be just a simple human, but it would be awesome to be a Twi'lek or a Devaronian. Once again, within reason.
Yeah, or a Hutt, that would be awesome! At least having one in your party.
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Some of the darkside options were downright evil, like when

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that Selkath on Manaan offers you 500 credits if you find out what happened to his daughter and the other missing Selkath, and when you find them inside the sith base you just slaughter them all, and then return to him and tell him you have information for him, and when he asks what you've found out you say "Maybe a few credits could refresh my memory," and when he pays up you tell him that the sith was training the young Selkath in the dark side of the force and that you killed his daughter, just as you'll kill him if he tells anybody about it, then you take the 500 credits.

Or what about finding those promised land journals in the undercity and instead of giving them to Rukil selling them to Igear for a couple hundred credits so he can destroy them, that was really evil
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:41 PM   #32
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I'd like to see more costomization in playable characters/armor/weapons. I'd also like to see it more friendly to mods. Every game can learn something from OFP.


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actually i wouldnt mind seeing customizable swoop bikes


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Unless swoop bikes become more useful then in KOTOR 1, that might turn out to be useless.


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Every game can learn something from OFP.
Rogue9dlb, if I may ask, what is OFP?


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Rogue9dlb, if I may ask, what is OFP?
i think Operation FlashPoint. forget what kind of game that was...


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Rogue9dlb, if I may ask, what is OFP?
Operation Flashpoint
It has the most powerful mission editor I've ever seen and it's mod friendly. Basically, you can pretty much do anything you want with it.


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Maybe, but OFP has a much wider range of what you can do.


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Oh... Operation Flashpoint, thanks for enlightening me on that one.


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