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Old 09-27-2004, 03:18 PM   #1
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What would TPM be like without Jar Jar Binks?

I've always wondered what TPM would be like if that stupid, screwed up, horribly insane, long toungued, ugly, stupid (I know I put stupid twice but it's so horribly stupid I had to put it on again), stinky, bad english speaking MORON Jar Jar Binka wasn't in TPM, would people like it more? I know I would! Anyway what do you guys think?

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Old 09-27-2004, 05:39 PM   #2
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Firstly, the other characters would have to provide a bit more comedy but they'd definately do it better than Jar Jar XD

IMO, Threepio and Artoo are the only way to go when it comes to the funnies.

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Old 09-27-2004, 05:59 PM   #3
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Without Jar Jar, this would be a much better movie. I almost killed myself after 20 minutes of non-stop "Wesa go see Gungans now okie day? Mesa banished okie day? OHHHH NNOOOO big bad sea alien is comin after wesa!!!!" I wanted to stand up and go "SHUT THE F**K UP AND DIE!" What was George Lucas thinking when he made Jar Jar? He serves NO purpose but to take Amidalas place in Ep. 2 to give emergancy powers, which anyone could have done. Without Jar, Jar this movie would be one of my favorites (But I still like it anyway... I skip past all the Jar Jar scenes).
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Old 09-27-2004, 06:15 PM   #4
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IMO, Threepio and Artoo are the only way to go when it comes to the funnies.
Yeah Threepio and Artoo are the only funny characters, Lucas said he designed Artoo and Threepio to be the funny characters of the Saga but Jar Jar...

I think Lucas only made Jar Jar to appeal to young audiences, the worst mistake in the history of SW.


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Old 09-27-2004, 10:40 PM   #5
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The Phantom Edit, a fans edited version on TPM. no Jar Jar


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Old 09-28-2004, 06:03 AM   #6
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What was George Lucas thinking when he made Jar Jar? He serves NO purpose but to take Amidalas place in Ep. 2 to give emergancy powers, which anyone could have done.
He also served to take Quigon and Obi-wan to the Gungan city where they could get transportation fast enough to get them to Theed to rescue Amidala, and he served to inform Amidala of the Gungan army, and he served to lead Amidala and the Jedi to said army so they'd have a chance to create the distraction...

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Old 09-28-2004, 06:58 AM   #7
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What was George Lucas thinking when he made Jar Jar?
That younger children would be entertained by him? From what I have seen, he was right.

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He serves NO purpose but to take Amidalas place in Ep. 2 to give emergancy powers, which anyone could have done.
But it couldn't be just anyone. It had to be someone who could be duped and manipulated into thinking it was a good idea. JJ fits the bill.

But yes, things would be better without him.

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Old 09-28-2004, 07:18 AM   #8
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Without Jar-Jar... none of the OT would have happened. He was teh one who gave emergency powers, remember?


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Old 09-28-2004, 07:23 AM   #9
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He serves NO purpose but to take Amidalas place in Ep. 2 to give emergancy powers, which anyone could have done.
wrong
Padme was campaigning AGAINST the creation of an army for the republic. Palaptine wanted emergency powers so he could create an army without the senate's approval.

only someone like jar-jar, who thinks with his heart instead of his head, could have been dubbed into giving palpatine the power to create an army to save his friends. eventhough he was allowing the thing that padme was so dead against.
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:54 PM   #10
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only someone like jar-jar, who thinks with his heart instead of his head, could have been dubbed into giving palpatine the power to create an army to save his friends. eventhough he was allowing the thing that padme was so dead against.
Well that just proves how much of a light-headed moron this thing is. Padmé must have been sh***ing herself when she was with Anakin thinking about what she had done; I could just imagine what she's thinking: "My god, I left JAR JAR IN MY PLACE!!!!" I know thats what I would be saying/thinking.


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Old 10-05-2004, 08:15 PM   #11
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Luca$ said Jar Jar would apeal to children. Personally, I wouldn't insult kid's intelegence by saying kids would like him!

when my little couson kevin said he liked Jar Jar Binks, I told him "Nobody likes Jar Jar Binks!" but then again' looks like I had been wrong!

my mom said Jar Jar reminded her of one of my friends! he's tall, skinny, wirey, goofy, and annoing and had big ears!

I say Jar Jar was like Roger Rabbit! any one ELSE notice the Roger Rabbit simularities?

lets compare Lando and Han vs Jar Jar:

LANDO AND HAN-
I thought "Lando and Han made MUCH better generals!" THEY were more serius! Lando and Han were more realistic and intellegent as generals!

JAR JAR-
When Jar Jar was general, he ALWAYS won aginst the battle droids by acident! With goofy Jar Jar in charge of fighting the battle droids, It looked to me like a CARTOON! I swear!


PS: I sensed a great distubance in the force! As if Disney bought Star Wars From Luca$ and now making kid movies! Millions of fans cry out in terror, and were sudenly silenced!


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Old 10-05-2004, 08:33 PM   #12
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TPM would be watchable without him. I'm a kid, was 9 when I saw TPM, and I was like...Why the hell include him in here? He's a ******g IDIOT! And if he's supposed to appeal to kids, Luca$ was right...EVERYONE at school was talking like, "Meesa noob thatsa wont shut the ****sa upsa!"...I couldn't stand it.


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Old 10-06-2004, 10:06 PM   #13
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Without Jar-Jar the Seperatists would have taken over Naboo. So he is supposed to be in. He made the whole of the Star Wars Saga what it was suposed to be.


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Old 10-06-2004, 10:12 PM   #14
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So? Have another gungan, or better yet, a still stupid race that could be fooled into Palpy's scheme, but be non-annoying...


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Old 10-08-2004, 07:19 PM   #15
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Originally posted by kipperthefrog PS: I sensed a great distubance in the force! As if Disney bought Star Wars From Luca$ and now making kid movies! Millions of fans cry out in terror, and were sudenly silenced! [/B]
Sad, but true.

Jar Jar was a critical character, but he was too stupid to watch on screen. I cringe when he appears in any part of the prequels.

Multiple errors plague the prequels, but Jar Jar could have been heavily edited. He stood out as a crap element, annoying and screwed.

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Old 10-08-2004, 07:36 PM   #16
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forget the little kids! Star Wars is for the 80s generation

AMEN!


I was born in 1980! i remember shows like He-man masters of the universe, and all the 80s toons! and i am a proud 80s kid! the best MOVIES and shows and songs are from the 80s!

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Old 10-09-2004, 03:24 PM   #17
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Well I just hope the in Ep 3 you see someone (hopefully Anakin) stirke down that damn gungan and then you see all of his brains (about the size of a droplet of water) leak out onto the ground MWAHAHAHAHA!!! By now I'm sure everyone knows that I really really really hate that gungan.


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Old 10-12-2004, 05:39 AM   #18
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Least you say "that" Gungan. I know a number of people who berate the entire Gungan race because of Jar Jar. Personally I like the Gungans. Jar Jar's rather annoying when he's trying to be (though to be honest, he's not ALWAYS annoying, he's pretty serious when he's talking to Amidala/Padme about the future of the Naboo and the Gungans and mentions the Gungan army).

I accept him because he's a misfit of society, and not just his own. Said misfits exist, and I've met a few that are far more annoying than Jar Jar. Yeah, he's meant to be more directed at little kids, and as a result can be annoying, but other than the "exsqueeze me" which seems a rip from Waynes World and the "How wude" which sounds like the Olsen twins playing Michelle Tanner, rather than sounding like an homage to C-3PO in the OT, I don't have much of a problem with him. Nice to know the misfits actually wind up on the good side once in a while rather than missing Han Solo at point blank (which never should have happened away) .

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Old 10-12-2004, 07:14 AM   #19
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The entire Gungan race IS horrible, a very annoying bunch, where Jar-Jar is the Jester in a court of clowns
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:06 AM   #20
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I don't think that many more people would like the movie more without Jar Jar, I think people just say that because he personifies the difference between the feel of TPM and the original trilogy. IMO, people would find other things to complain about if Jar Jar was not there.
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Old 10-13-2004, 01:42 AM   #21
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people would find other things to complain about if Jar Jar was not there.
and they do, people complained even after the mass transfering of the phantom edit. in which jar jars scenes were cut short, with little to no speaking. people still complained about other things, even the way the grass looks. people just like to complain because they're foolish and can't just accept that it's a movie, and that if they dont' like it, they don't have to watch it.


also, If you don't like it say so once, then be quiet, please.


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Old 10-13-2004, 09:05 AM   #22
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couldn't they have made jarjar a little less annoying and still made him part of the story, he seemed worthless, they could have easily made him important, although, he comes in handy during AOTC... could he have been part of palpatines plan? i.e. thats the real reason the TF attacked naboo... in which casse, i may grom to like jar jar
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:38 AM   #23
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the attack on Naboo was to boost sympathy for the Senator from Naboo, and to give him a catalyst to attack Valorum.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:49 AM   #24
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there must me some reason that jarjar was allowed to be a senator, why was he put in this position of power?
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because he was someone who padme trusted
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but don't you think there is a reason why jar jar was the one GL chose to be trusted, even though he shouldn't have been trusted... i think there may be some ulterior motive here
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Old 10-15-2004, 12:55 AM   #27
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In the DVD commentary on ANH, lucas says saomething to the effect of "now that its been out so long, you can't suprise people with general star wars overall, unless they're eight of nine year olds who have never seen it before"

that made me so sad..... so hes definately leaning towards younger audiences with at least I and II, he may aim it higher for III, so far it looks that way...
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In the DVD commentary on ANH, lucas says saomething to the effect of "now that its been out so long, you can't suprise people with general star wars overall, unless they're eight of nine year olds who have never seen it before"

that made me so sad..... so hes definately leaning towards younger audiences with at least I and II, he may aim it higher for III, so far it looks that way...

I don't think that is what he means at all. I think he is saying that the special effects are not enough to make SW fans anymore, and that he now has to rely on story, characters, etc.
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Old 10-15-2004, 02:29 AM   #29
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exactly, when star wars first came out in 1977 people were blown away by the SFX, because they had never seen anything like it. whereas now CGI is in every other film, people are no longer impressed by SFX, certainly nowhere near as much as they used to be.
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Old 10-15-2004, 06:21 AM   #30
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Indeed. It really is amazing what people will go "meh" to these days...

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meh, actually, i am still impressed by the SFX of the OT, not so much the PT, but i think i just envision seeing OT in the 70s and 80s, and then i appreciate what happened
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:04 AM   #32
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This one needs repeting again

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PS: I sensed a great distubance in the force! As if Disney bought Star Wars From Luca$ and now making kid movies! Millions of fans cry out in terror, and were sudenly silenced!
I used to like Jar Jar when I first saw TPM but then a year or two ago while watching the film I suddenly realised something very important:

Half the time you can't tell what he's saying.

For example, when he's saying why he was banished from the gungan city, he says something about

"Crashyed the bosses heads levers, then banashed" I mean seriously - that can't be right.


EDIT:

But I think the thing with the language barrier is the whole gungan race. Can anyone understand everything that the gungan king (anyone know his name?) says?


IM NOT GOING TO BE ON THE FORUMS VERY OFTEN NOW! I MIGHT BE ON TIME TO TIME, BUT IVE BASICLY GIVEN UP THE FORUMS NOW!!!!

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Old 11-21-2004, 04:50 PM   #33
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But I think the thing with the language barrier is the whole gungan race. Can anyone understand everything that the gungan king (anyone know his name?) says?
Boss Nass. The modern language that the Gungans speak is a derivative of their native language, that is heavily influenced by Basic. The result is that you can tell what they say some of the time, but some words are entirely foreign.
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It is the story of TPM! You must accept like it is!
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Old 11-26-2004, 08:57 AM   #35
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If Jar Jar had not been in TPM, people wouldn't have had anything to complain about. As annoying as it was, at least he provided some comic relief (and something for people to make fun of).


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Old 11-26-2004, 08:18 PM   #36
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If Jar Jar wasn't in TPM, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have never found the gungans, or saved Naboo. Without Jar Jar they couldn't have found the secret Gungan place...

Though he is pretty dumb



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If Jar Jar wasn't in TPM, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have never found the gungans, or saved Naboo. Without Jar Jar they couldn't have found the secret Gungan place...

Though he is pretty dumb
You are right.
But anyway, TPM is the worsest STAR WARS filn ever made! George Lucas even said that he find this film not so good as it could be!
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:46 AM   #38
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You just made a good point Outrider. Jar Jar had to be stupid or evil to be banished and therefore show the jedis the gungans.

But if he was evil then padame wouldn't have made him a seniter and palpatine wouldn't have had the emergancy powers.

So he HAD to be brain dead to be banished


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Old 11-27-2004, 02:59 PM   #39
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Jar Jar would have been OK is he had been toned down in the "goofiness" department. Make him move around like a normal person, for the most part, don't have the eyes bug out, etc.
I think the whole Gungan language needs refinement. From a linguistic standpoint, it could never happen. It's obvious that the Gungans took their language from the Naboo. If so, they should have spoken almost normal English, as opposed to the goofy, "English-aa" thta they speak. That is, unless, all Gungans are mentally retarded and unable to fully comprehend the language.
Had Jar Jar been a little more human in his movements, spoken a more normal language, and not had such an annoying voice, I would have no problems with him.
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Re: What would TPM be like without Jar Jar Binks?

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I've always wondered what TPM would be like if that stupid, screwed up, horribly insane, long toungued, ugly, stupid (I know I put stupid twice but it's so horribly stupid I had to put it on again), stinky, bad english speaking MORON Jar Jar Binka wasn't in TPM, would people like it more? I know I would! Anyway what do you guys think?

*What sith_master2000 wants too do to Jar Jar Binks*

MELT IT DOWN

BLAST IT WITH A ROCKET LAUNCHER

HACK AT IT WITH A CHAINSAW

TORCH IT WITH A FLAMETHROWER

BLAST IT WITH A CANNON



Yes I'm happy now!

It would be a better movie


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