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you didn´t get the point right?
Read my first post!
I don´t like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time.
There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with.
And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books.
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he he he. Rends, really, you should do some research before making silly comments. The YV turned up some 25 years after the ANH(IIRC).....The empire was well deferated at the end of ROTJ IMHO, thrawn was just a storm in a teacup.....  One of the excellent things about the NJO was seeing the new republic(now called the GFFA) forge an alliance with the imperial remnant.
Also, if you have read Rogue Planet, a novel set during the time of anakin skywalkers jedi training, there is evidence in that book of events leading up to the YV invasion.
but still, you dont have to read the njo, but try avoid saying things without fully knowing about them, it will save you alot of hassle in life
Prime nice comment !
ET I can feel a card coming on for you sir
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10-14-2004, 03:06 PM
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the new republic(now called the GFFA) forge an alliance with the imperial remnant.
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Imperials would never join the Republic scum.
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10-14-2004, 03:08 PM
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Guys.
It wasn´t my plan to make a flamefest here!
The title of this topic just came into my mind after reading a bit about the YV story. So i wrote it.My fault.
Well i´m a Star wars fan since 1977 when i watched the first movie as a ten years old child. Star Wars is still part of my life and enjoyed me so often and now i see my son growing as Star Wars fan too 
And that´s what Star Wars should be. Enjoy us in parts of our life. For hours, days or years.
So i will apologize to all YV fans here!
Even if YV is not my Star Wars it might be yours.
I will accept it and i hope we can end this thread without beeing angry.
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10-14-2004, 11:48 PM
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My take on the Yuuzhan Vong -
I don't mind the EU. I just consider it like various theories from various people on what happened after Star Wars, before it and all around it. I never take into consideration that it did happen after Star Wars. So what happened before and after Star Wars? NOTHING. Nothing as long as GL makes a movie about it. But it does seem a bit ironical to put The Republic back to where it began, at the feet of some Galaxy-ruling bastards.
That's it from me, for now.
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10-15-2004, 01:09 AM
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I thought we were gonna end this thread.
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10-15-2004, 02:45 AM
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Well i´m a Star wars fan since 1977 when i watched the first movie as a ten years old child.
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are you tellin us you're 37 yo ! shyte ! ya old bugger ! I thought you were 13
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10-15-2004, 02:52 AM
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are you tellin us you're 37 yo ! shyte ! ya old bugger !
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Oh not yet!
Next week young Padawan. My 37 birthday is next week!
But in fact when it comes to Star Wars i still feel like 13
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10-15-2004, 05:23 AM
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i read vector prime and i didn't like it one bit. now people tell me that the NJO gets better after that, which is probably true.
unfortunately I can’t get over how much I didn’t like VP... I just can’t read anymore books in the NJO series.
i've never been a fan of star trek and from what i read from VP, and from what people tell me, that's what the NJO has become.
which is fine if you like that sort of thing. i respect other people’s opinions. just because i think it crap doesn't mean it is crap, it just means I think its crap. tastes differ, it would be boring otherwise.
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10-15-2004, 07:21 AM
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*fauls to edit in:too 5H177Y for me, use this to translate*
Never us ethose words next to eachother, even sepearted by punctuation, it is just wrong...
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10-15-2004, 09:09 AM
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that just translates from english to l33t not l33t to english :/
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10-16-2004, 02:36 AM
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i read vector prime and i didn't like it one bit. now people tell me that the NJO gets better after that, which is probably true.
unfortunately I can’t get over how much I didn’t like VP... I just can’t read anymore books in the NJO series.
i've never been a fan of star trek and from what i read from VP, and from what people tell me, that's what the NJO has become.
which is fine if you like that sort of thing. i respect other people’s opinions. just because i think it crap doesn't mean it is crap, it just means I think its crap. tastes differ, it would be boring otherwise.
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thats just crazy and lazy  VP is all about introducing the characters, places and objects of the NJO. To judge the NJO based on VP is just damn silly ! Thats liek someone saying, "yeah I saw ANH, and I hated it, I never will watch the other movies just because ANH was crap" and we all know they'll be missing out on ESB(which we all love), ROTJ and AOTC.... There are some excellent books in the series. Evem ones that focus on single characters, liek Corran Horn, or the Solo twins. The NJO has a depth no other SW lit effort has ever managed to accomplish. The finale, the unifying force is just amazing............. Luke fighting with two sabers against the YV badass.....sounds boring ... ???
BTW Siv, I suggest you step aside and make ME the EU forum badass !
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10-16-2004, 02:45 AM
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Rends... I... I think I'm in love with you. 
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10-17-2004, 06:11 AM
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Rends... I... I think I'm in love with you.
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BAH ! Rends, see what you've done ! you've bought all the njo haters out of their little sordid burrows... ET, Siv, Prime, now even Rhett has been enticed from his barn....
a man your age should know better
SW lit EU needed a new direction, so many stories had been done on :
*clones of emperor, thrawn, clones of stormtroopers !
*mastermind warlords ... Zsinj, Thrawn
*Superweapons.... Darksaber, unused DS prototype, galaxy gun, sun crusher
*SIGH*
even the search for a new generation of jedi had started with the 'Jedi Academy' trilogy.... I just cant see how people can say "ugh ! its not SW !" Of course the njo is not freakin movie type SW, which is what things like the thrawn trilogy is a re-hash of... inevitably, it has to come back to the characters, NJO offered exploration of many great characters, ranging from Mara and Jaina, to Jacen and Vergere, not to mention Nom Anor.....In addtion all the old faves(Luke, Han, Leia etc) got a good run too as far as some examination of their characterisations... I really look forward to the post NJO books, because they will owe alot to the work that was done by the NJO authors...
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10-17-2004, 09:58 PM
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you've bought all the njo haters out of their little sordid burrows... ET, Siv, Prime, now even Rhett. 
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no respect I tell ya's, no respect. 
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10-18-2004, 02:29 AM
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But MY complaints are worth five million
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he he he.... you is just askin for it with such comments....
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Thats liek someone saying, "yeah I saw ANH, and I hated it, I never will watch the other movies just because ANH was crap" and we all know they'll be missing out on ESB(which we all love), ROTJ and AOTC....
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exactly, someone can watch ANH and hate it and we can say, 'but try watching the others you might change your mind' but they wont because if they hated the first one so much, why would they want to watch anymore of them.
if you didn't like lethal weapon, then chances are you wont like lethal weapon 2, 3 and 4 either... even though by the time its got to 4 its a total different film, its gone from a dark action film to a Rom Com.
if you went into a Chinese takeaway and ordered something you hadn't tried before and it made you sick, you wouldn't order it again, even if its from a different restaurant.
i could think of more analogies if you want 
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10-18-2004, 05:27 AM
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...i could think of more analogies if you want
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no thanks, but have an "EU Whiner" Limited Edition Card courtesy of astro.com  (see above)
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So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet? 
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10-18-2004, 08:22 AM
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So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet?
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we better have, cuz I'm typing up the treaty...
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10-18-2004, 08:32 AM
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No, NJO rules. You can use that treaty to wipe your buttocks. 
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10-18-2004, 09:14 AM
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You can use that treaty to wipe your buttocks.
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if you wish.
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10-18-2004, 12:20 PM
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So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet?
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Yes.
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10-18-2004, 12:31 PM
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So...have we all decided that the NJO sucks yet?
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no
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10-18-2004, 03:01 PM
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You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro.
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but I count right?
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10-18-2004, 03:04 PM
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You don't count. And neither does Phreak or Astro.
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Aww, back to the EU forum for me!
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10-18-2004, 03:34 PM
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Of course you do 
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10-19-2004, 02:36 AM
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but I count right?
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oh yes....of course you do..... as njo hating and fans of images of young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats walk hand in hand in your and ETs brave new world..
fools....
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10-19-2004, 07:25 AM
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THEY'RE NOT PRE-PUBESCENT! they have breasts.
as someone once said to me, "grass on the field, play ball"
and they weren't dressed as cats, they were catgirls, they have cat ears and a tail as part of their body. kthxbai.
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10-19-2004, 07:41 AM
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oung pre pubescent japanese females
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2 words: tenjou tenge
I read more and more about it and disliked it more and more. And on the contrary anime pwns. And I don't think only anime lovers dislike NJO. It's true the remnants aint good enough for a story anymore, but you can also..stop it. Rebels won, fini!
Had someone told me all about Yuuzhan Vong i'd say "star trek" and be surprised when i was told its supposed to be star wars
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oh yes....of course you do..... as njo hating and fans of images of young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats walk hand in hand in your and ETs brave new world..
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Young pre pubescent japanese females dressed as pussycats pwn NJO.

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10-19-2004, 07:58 AM
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hmm, seems to me like this thread brought out all the baddies...
NJO... well, NJO is well worth reading, i have to agree with some of you guys like Phreak and Shok, when you say the same plot would start to get old...
It seems like that is all star wars has been about since the time of TPM, i mean, all these uprisings and rotations of government and more uprisings and more rotations of government...
I was aching for something new... NJO brings that to us, it offers a new insight to what the SWG entails, rather than civil war, it is an intergalactic war. People unite more under one cause, that is what NJO seems to be, a galaxy(although split) who are all trying to save their ____(is that ok ET?)_____ against a common enemy...
I do have to say i enjoy the more "classic" time frame and early EU, but this is refreshing,
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10-19-2004, 08:26 AM
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At least the forums I moderate are actualy active. You'll do anything to get some action here 
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10-19-2004, 08:42 AM
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At least the forums I moderate are actualy active.
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you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right? 
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10-19-2004, 08:48 AM
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I've never seen him there <.<
*beats Sith with a nightstick*
The fact stands, NJO rules. You'll never defeat me! The NJO will survive!
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10-19-2004, 08:49 AM
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you know he's a mod at the swamp too, right?
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you don't count
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my only problem with NJO was the death of chewie and the whole vong characters thing. They just screamed borg to me. They were just stupid characters :x
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nah, I'm pretty sure I do. 
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10-19-2004, 08:52 AM
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my only problem with NJO was the death of chewie and the whole vong characters thing. They just screamed borg to me. They were just stupid characters :x
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for many millenia, the SWG has been protected or governed by force-wielders, since they seemed all-powerful, but who will protect you when the force-users are nearly useless??? that's what makes for a good story
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swamp=veterans. Almost everyone knows what (not) to do there . A day without a lock here is rare
Well "force powers cant be used on them", does it work like the ysalamiri (they neutralise force effects in an environment) or only their body? Cause else you could just lift heavy objects and throw em or smash em with it....
Jedi got pwned by "normal" droids as well. There's no need for a new ARCH ENEMY that seems to be INDESTRUCTABLE
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Chewie's death tore me up. I hated it.
But it did open up new avenues and possibilities for Han's character, and gave the whole series a darker feel.
EU is EU. Maybe some people like reading about the young Solo kids get out of scrapes at the Jedi Academy and have fun time with the other Junior Jedi Knights. Maybe you want to read about the repetitive and eventually banal New Republic politics. Maybe you want to read new, exciting, and surprising plot's involving a third Death-Star and the Death-Star's big LAZER gun. Hell, let's even throw in some Clones.
Read what you enjoy. If you enjoy reading recycled bull**** about all of our favorite characters, stay away from the NJO. If you want to read something different, try out the NJO.
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