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Old 11-11-2004, 10:50 AM   #1
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Post The Blacklist of Team Killers

Let's make a list of those players who have started down the path to the dark side. Have you seen one moron that can't play good enough on his/her own? They have to resort to "TK-ing?"

Here are 2 morons I saw Team Killing on {JASA}jasacademy.com (66.165.113.14:3658) today:

MoFugga
Darthnuts

If you see these players online feel free to show them how to become one with the Force!

Friendly Fire keeps the fun away from every one else. Perhaps the server admins will feel we've been treated unfairly?

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Old 11-11-2004, 10:55 AM   #2
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there were a lot of people teamkilling on that server today. I was tked twice there in 1 minute, once when the server started someone shot me down so he could take a vehicle and afterwards when capturing spawn 2 guys were throwing nades everywhere (no enemy)

its ridiculous. I'd rather play me vs everyone then...

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Old 11-11-2004, 11:08 AM   #3
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Why isn't there a stat showing the number of teamkills in that gamespy database? Or a better system, alowing the server to automatically check someones stats to determine wethere or not he can join the server.




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Old 11-11-2004, 11:29 AM   #4
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Why isn't there a stat showing the number of teamkills in that gamespy database? Or a better system, alowing the server to automatically check someones stats to determine wethere or not he can join the server.
I think it would take more complicated logic than number of TK's to determine whether or not someone is a griefer or just bad with grenades/mines and other explosives.


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Old 11-11-2004, 11:38 AM   #5
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You can make it a rellative number too. Number of teamkills pro minute or so. I think a teamkiller makes a lot more kills then someone with some bad grenade skills. And if he doesn't, this might be a good reason for the grenadenoob to not throw grenades any more




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Old 11-11-2004, 12:22 PM   #6
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the autoboot is a horrible idea. what if someone went over (accident or no) and then they couldnt get back on any server to bring their stats back up. While it seems like a nice idea to the average paerson, thats a horrible idea on behalf of Battlefront, as you dont deny someone MP of a game that they paid for, even if they are a complete f**ktard. We just need a better voting system, where the vote is tallied by # of people who vote, not by # of people on the server.


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Old 11-11-2004, 12:48 PM   #7
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Just gonna have to wait for a voting system. Autokicks are lame. I jokingly said that my aimbot was broken and I got kicked off a BF42 EA server. If youre using an aimbot you dont admit it. I dont need to resort to that. If someone gets kicked they should have Vader choke them. Rebels: Chewie pulls the arms out of their sockets or C3PO talks their ears off and they shoot themselves, CIS: JarJar comes along and clumsily kills the person getting kicked (owned by JarJar that is shameful), Republic: Yoda comes and slices you up. MUHAHAHA



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Old 11-11-2004, 01:35 PM   #8
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there were a lot of people teamkilling on that server today. I was tked twice there in 1 minute, once when the server started someone shot me down so he could take a vehicle and afterwards when capturing spawn 2 guys were throwing nades everywhere (no enemy)

its ridiculous. I'd rather play me vs everyone then...

FF=Off until this is fixed
yea that darth nuts guy was a pin in da a$$ he was always killin us




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Old 11-11-2004, 02:58 PM   #9
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I don't think this list is a good idea as
1. People can change their names easily.
2. Imposters can get a certain name on the list because they have something against that person.

It's a lot smarter to have private lists.

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the autoboot is a horrible idea. what if someone went over (accident or no) and then they couldnt get back on any server to bring their stats back up. While it seems like a nice idea to the average paerson, thats a horrible idea on behalf of Battlefront, as you dont deny someone MP of a game that they paid for, even if they are a complete f**ktard. We just need a better voting system, where the vote is tallied by # of people who vote, not by # of people on the server.
Who says anything about permanently expelling players? Many BF1942 servers automatically kick people who get a negative score of -1 or -2. They don't ban them, though, that should be a decision made by the administrator.

As for "the game they paid for", well, the Battlefront developers/publishers have all rights to go as far as to revoke your CD key if you really get out of line. Empire Earth has a policy of doing that to anyone who cheated using trainers during multi player. You obviously know nothing whatsoever about licensing, so let me explain it to you:

You don't buy video games, you buy a copy of them and a license to use them.

Remember that License agreement you always skip because you think you're too cool to ever read it? It explains the whole thing in greater detail. The owners of the game (which does NOT equal buys a copy and license) have every right to stop you from using the game on-line even though you paid for it. Just like you can lose your driver's license, even though you paid for it.

As for whether or not it's ethically right, that's a different discussion altogether. However, I'm all for bans for periods from a few days to a month, depending on severity. Some cases just never learn.

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You can make it a rellative number too. Number of teamkills pro minute or so.
So if someone accidentaly kills a friendly guy with a grenade the first thirty seconds, he should be banned for his 2 TKs a minute ratio?

Similarily, someone can take an account with 1000 game minutes logged and only very few team kills and start a masacre of friendlies. The TK/minutes played ratio isn't too heavily affected as there are too many minutes.

Statistics lie. Your ratio says nothing about you.

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Old 11-11-2004, 03:46 PM   #10
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hey my msn is chosenone@jasacademy.com. I am on alot. Either send me a email with the names of the players or hit me up on msn and I will ban them. Thanks for playing on the server and I will do my best to handle the tkers.


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Old 11-11-2004, 03:51 PM   #11
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I think a better system for voting people off the game server is what we need. It is difficult to find a safe place to hide in order to pause and enter the player list screen.

It is unfortunate that some people need the attention so badly that they will resort to somthing like team killing. We have a privilage here, with a good game, and online play...

Maybe we could start a fund... I am willing to donate $20 to getting these unfortunate people some professional help. Maybe all they need is someone to listen to them.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:24 PM   #12
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Good idea about the $20 for mental help but immaturity is not curable. Im proof of that.



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Old 11-12-2004, 09:02 AM   #13
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I equally hate TKers, but a name ban won't work. They could change their name by one character and log back on to the server. You need IP Ban.
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Old 11-12-2004, 09:23 AM   #14
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Originally posted by Dagobahn Eagle
I don't think this list is a good idea as
1. People can change their names easily.
2. Imposters can get a certain name on the list because they have something against that person.
1) they can't. You need to create a new profile each time, perhaps edit some things...

Autokick IS a good idea, but based on tking thrice. If i would be able to customize one, i'd kick anyone that TKs someone in the first 20 seconds (people tk others for a vehicle), or after 3 tks. If person comes back, and TKs again 2 times, IP ban.


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Old 11-12-2004, 12:15 PM   #15
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a think about ip bans, most idiots are on dynamic ips which is a pain to have to keep banning AOL for example...

i have never played this game online yet, im waiting for it to become a bit better...

but i have generally found that idiots use dynamic ips . it can help for a while though
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Old 11-15-2004, 07:21 AM   #16
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Yep! Darthnuts got me two or three times yesterday - I got him back though once or twice!

Someone was trying to boot him out of the game (through voting) but even though I wanted to vote I couldn't (or better I didn't know how to)
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Old 11-15-2004, 10:17 AM   #17
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Just gonna have to wait for a voting system. Autokicks are lame. I jokingly said that my aimbot was broken and I got kicked off a BF42 EA server. If youre using an aimbot you dont admit it. I dont need to resort to that. If someone gets kicked they should have Vader choke them. Rebels: Chewie pulls the arms out of their sockets or C3PO talks their ears off and they shoot themselves, CIS: JarJar comes along and clumsily kills the person getting kicked (owned by JarJar that is shameful), Republic: Yoda comes and slices you up. MUHAHAHA
I think you can have a system that can give you a good indication wether or not someone teamkills or makes some 'accidents'. Players can be IP banned from servers, and if they teamkill to much they will be banned from all online play for a surden period of time. That they have payed to play online doesn't matter me much, as they don't seem to matter either.




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Old 11-16-2004, 04:08 AM   #18
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Yep! Darthnuts got me two or three times yesterday - I got him back though once or twice!

Someone was trying to boot him out of the game (through voting) but even though I wanted to vote I couldn't (or better I didn't know how to)
You know what's even worse? I know how to vote a guy off, and it's STILL a confusing pain in the ass.
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Old 11-16-2004, 06:43 AM   #19
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Hey, I got team killed by this guy named DeZeNutz last night... he sounded like a crying girl when I continued to take him out time after time when he was on opposite teams... maybe this was the only he could kill me.. LOL!


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Old 11-16-2004, 06:48 AM   #20
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This is stupid. Those people will of course change their names.




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Old 11-16-2004, 09:44 AM   #21
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This is stupid. Those people will of course change their names.
yea that is pretty much wat will happen...




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Old 11-16-2004, 01:58 PM   #22
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Team Killer... Yep, that's his name

ANyone with the word Gravy in their name.



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Old 11-18-2004, 09:03 PM   #23
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It seems that team killers are improving their ways - they now use sabotage! Last night while I was playing on Hoth I've noticed some explosions on the hangar. I ran towards the area, and guess what??? One of my "team mates" was shooting at the "ammo" and "health" droids.

He blew up every single droid in the base (hangar, outpost, and tunnel) so before you know it, we ran out of ammo! I don't have to tell you how frustrating it is to have a AT-ST "parked" outside the base and having only a pistol available to destroy it
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:07 PM   #24
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One thing people need to remember about TK'ers: They feed off of your anger.

Keeping a cool head and pissing the TK'er(s) off instead is a joy.




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Old 11-19-2004, 07:07 AM   #25
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I think TK8252 should change his name. These guys don't share very nice info about you with us




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Old 11-19-2004, 09:37 AM   #26
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Just gonna have to wait for a voting system. Autokicks are lame. I jokingly said that my aimbot was broken and I got kicked off a BF42 EA server. If youre using an aimbot you dont admit it. I dont need to resort to that. If someone gets kicked they should have Vader choke them. Rebels: Chewie pulls the arms out of their sockets or C3PO talks their ears off and they shoot themselves, CIS: JarJar comes along and clumsily kills the person getting kicked (owned by JarJar that is shameful), Republic: Yoda comes and slices you up. MUHAHAHA
Ey I just read this first sentence, but maybe they already sayd, but voting is already in it (at least on PC platform), you just need to go to the player list, and then click on a player off your team, then click on vote to boot just under the list.


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Old 11-22-2004, 07:32 AM   #27
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What we need is a progressive penalty system (or mod).

First Step:
W-W' tks your fine.

Second Step:
A-A' tks in B amount of time, you're sacrificed and have a C second respawn delay.

Third Step:
X-X' tks in Y amount of time, you're sacrificed and have a Z second respawn delay.

Fourth Step:
D tks in E amount of time, you're kicked.

And so on and so forth with all variables set by the server allowing a very strict or very forgiving tk ruleset.
Example:

1st tk your fine.

2-3 tks within 5 minutes, you're sacrificed and have a 30 second respawn delay.

4-5 tks within 10 minutes, you're sacrificed and have a 1 minute respawn delay.

6 tks within 15 minutes, you're kicked.

This would take 3 minutes of staring at the respawn screen to get 6 tks and then be kicked. Sure you might still have tkers but after their second you dont have to worry about them for a half minute. So this makes them incapable of shutting down an offense or defense, and they are certainly not having nearly as much fun as they used to.

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This is similar to not respawning after a tk round in CounterStrike, which is very boring and makes you check your fire.

Also similar to PlanetSide, which ups your penalties given the amount of friendly fire you have caused. Which really really makes you watch your fire when you cant shoot for 3 minutes.
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:33 AM   #28
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I equally hate TKers, but a name ban won't work. They could change their name by one character and log back on to the server. You need IP Ban.
read up. i believe it does work by ip


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Old 11-27-2004, 08:07 AM   #29
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Let me add one more name to the blacklist

"Darth Large"

I was playing today on Rwen with the Rebels and he killed 11 of my teamates including myself. We tried to boot him but no one voted (or didn't know how to vote). His excuse was that he was killing the rebels because his team sucked! Some reasoning huh?

I wonder if he is the same guy like Darth Nuts...
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Old 12-15-2004, 02:31 PM   #30
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I go by Jaden {OK}...

Since the vote thing isn't working we all just need to tell everyone on the TK's team to do one of the following...

a. stop respawning can't kill what is not there.
b. switch teams and hunt them down like the dogs they are.
c. switch servers if you must.

They piss me off but they aren't going to just leave especially if they get you fired up.
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