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Old 11-19-2004, 10:19 AM   #1
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Exclamation Suicide Solution

I was just thinking a few days back how many times I tried to kill myself.And, well...about 20 times.
I cut my wrists and didn't die.Once I tried jumping off a building but, I thought "what if I don't die?".I took pills and vodka, nothing.I slept in the snow, I had 40 C, I got better.
And do a lot of stupid and painful things like:hit rugged trees with my bare hands till blood starts splatering all over my face.
I try to cut off the circulation to my brain in the middle of the class.
I put out my cigars on my hands, twice.
And I was wondering If there are other nutcases like me out there.If one of you ever tried one of these things or something else, let me know.


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Old 11-19-2004, 09:10 PM   #2
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This is a very unhealthy conversation. Stop doing those things at once!


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Old 11-21-2004, 10:40 AM   #3
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Wouldn't say I'm the same, but I've been friends with those who have. Actually, I had a real fee-yucked up friendship a cutter, addicted to both attention and self-destruction. She would unknowingly try to manipulate people with the ways she hurt herself. Of course, this cause all of her friends to abandon her, except me. You're saying, "oh, how heroic," right? No. Bad Idea. Being her crutch was a STUPID thing. I think she gave me like three "last phone calls". I'd talk her out of it, but that's all she wanted....for someone to talk her out of it. Looking back, I regret it. I should have let her kill herself. She had a good family and she was very fortunate, and since that wasn't good enough for her, she probably shouldn't be living life. Gahhhh... Bitch is the reason I've got so many communication issues.

Okay, sorry about revealing my life story all of a sudden. Too much caffiene for me.

On a less personal note: We've all thought about suicide. It's healthy to think to think about that sort of thing. Although don't solicit necroman's behavior, but it depends on why he does it.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 11-22-2004, 05:16 AM   #4
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In a way I can understand that someone would like to think and even attempt suicide, but to me it just sounds too... I don't know. I know some kids who are stupid attention whores and talk about suicide while they don't even realise the seriousness of the matter. Nowadays it seems to be cool to be the lonely Goth who cuts herself. That is why I am always sceptic about people who say the want/have tried to commit suicide.

Someone once said that people who really are desperate enough don't go around advertising their attempts. Only those who want attention and be cool, and don't really want to die do that.


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Old 11-22-2004, 01:58 PM   #5
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But sometimes that attention addiction is equally as fatal. My friend had done it for attention but that didn't make her any less of a nutcase. In fact, it made her more of one. And sometimes people just think cutting theirselves is the only way to properly communicate with someone. Like sometimes when I get real downsome for a month or so I think that perhaps hurting myself would be a better way to let people know that I feel seriously ****ed up instead telling someone that. In fact, one of the problems is, when people do say that, most people don't listen. So if someone comes up to you and says they've been totally on the bottom for a while, BELIEVE THEM. Otherwise you're going to get about twelve last phone calls a day, usually from the same person.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:12 AM   #6
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That is a very good point, JofaGuht. I know what you mean, but I only understand it now that you said it. The lack of any experiences like that stops me from fully comprehensing the matter. I only know those annoying teenage girls who think they are being so cool and dramatic. I have never known or met anyone with real problems. I hope I never will, either.

And I'm not the most compassionate person in the world, so that could also explain it. Or perhaps I'm a snob who has always had everything fine.


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Old 11-24-2004, 06:40 PM   #7
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I'm sure you're not a snob. Plus, this is probably a stereotype, but I'm guessing that people are generally nicer to each other where you live.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:25 AM   #8
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Nicer? Could be. I am e-mailing with a young American girl and the stories she tells me about her school, friends and teachers are terrifying. If someone can get sued for bullying, the situation must be quite bad. Or it could be just her school or the fact that she has had a very ****ty life.

EDIT: Wow, just realised that this board automatically censors bad words.


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Old 11-26-2004, 04:43 AM   #9
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I have a friend. Some times ago, her life was full of problems, and things like that. When she cut herself, it felt like she was free from the pain... Buut... She found a solution. And I think that's a solution for everyone, problems or not... The solution is Jesus! If you want to know more about the solution, you're welcome to PM me....


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Old 11-26-2004, 07:13 AM   #10
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You know ZaXeriaw, I wanted to suggest that solution as well, but was kinda afraid people would point at me and laugh.

And I hope you weren't joking.


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Old 11-26-2004, 09:41 AM   #11
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Don't worry, we'll point and laugh the first guy who said it.

I'm kidding. I know a lot of people find a very positive solution in that, but keep in mind, for everyone who's "saved" by Jesus there's someone who wants kill themself for the religion that's put on them, or, equally as common, someone harmed by a psychological addiction to their god.

I'm not saying finding solace in Christ is wrong, I'm just saying that though sometimes it can be very healthy, it can also but very unhealthy as well.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 11-27-2004, 12:38 AM   #12
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Yeah, I know what you mean. One of those fanatics is related to me. When I was a child I went to interview her about her childhood for my school project, but she ended up making me read some religious texts written by a handicapped fanatic. It was scary.

Also, another Christian fanatic who lives next to me used to tell me terrible stories of what happens to people who don't believe in God. It has been over ten years since it happened, but I can still remember a story about a girl who was torn apart by needles and how her father never slept after that. That was scary.


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Old 11-27-2004, 01:35 AM   #13
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What will happens to people who don't believe in God, after life, is scary. Anyway, I wasn't kiddin'. I mean, if you have a problem, why not try to pray for it. It haven't hurt someone before....


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Old 11-27-2004, 02:18 AM   #14
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I found praying to be very relaxing on stressful, or complicated moments, but I'm not such a religious person.
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Old 11-27-2004, 04:39 AM   #15
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What will happens to people who don't believe in God, after life, is scary.
Yes, but I can't stand people who throw it to my face all the time. I am a Christian, but I believe that religion is evereyone's personal business and people who act like their religion is the only true one really piss me off. Like my neighbour.

This wasn't targeted at you in any way, by the way.


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Old 11-27-2004, 01:00 PM   #16
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I found praying to be very relaxing on stressful, or complicated moments, but I'm not such a religious person.
I agree with you. Prayer works as a great meditation. A term I like before is "sacred silence" that means basically anything that will clear one's mind. For some, a sacred silence could be music or sleep. I think the term "sacred silence" could definitely be used with prayer.

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Originally posted by ZaXeriaw What will happens to people who don't believe in God, after life, is scary. Anyway, I wasn't kiddin'. I mean, if you have a problem, why not try to pray for it. It haven't hurt someone before....
This is the exact mindset I was talking about earlier. That exact belief of "if you don't comply with God, you'll be punished eternally" is the belief that can really hurt someone. People have both killed themselves and killed others over a ridiculous belief like that.

Restating earlier, I do think religion does help some people, and I'm all for the power of prayer. But when it comes to prayer, there are emotional dependencies. I think its okay to pray for a problem, but for people to do that too much leads to a lack of independence. Sometimes, when you've got a problem, fixing it yourself can help. It's been clinically proven .


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:40 AM   #17
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....That exact belief of "if you don't comply with God, you'll be punished eternally" is the belief that can really hurt someone.
Hehee... I aked myself that question some times ago. Buuut.... If you say, that people that doesn't believe in God, will be punished, I can tell you, that Hell wasn't ment to be for human beings, but for Satan and his demons. But when a human sin, and don't believe in Jesus Christ, he don't get the forgiveness, you can say that is required to get saved.


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Old 11-28-2004, 10:53 AM   #18
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hehe, I'd thought you'd notice this by now...
I just like getting you people to discuss these topics, my topics.
Eventhough I really did those things mentioned above it gets worse.
I have disciples, worshipers, call 'em as you like.And I have my own cult.They worship Cthulhu and I'm their leader.
JofaGuht does that chic you were talkin' 'bout earlyer have an' e-mail adress? I'll give her reasons...
If you have anymore questions about these kinda' things or my cult (Voodoo Defenders), let me know.

P.S.I know you're gonna hate me for what I wrote above but you'll have to forgive me.


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Old 11-29-2004, 05:10 AM   #19
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I'm not going to hate you. I'm only going to take step back and watch you from a distance.

Just kidding. Whatever you do is your own business and I have no right to judge you as long as you don't hurt anyone.


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Old 12-03-2004, 08:25 AM   #20
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I just did...


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Old 12-03-2004, 11:02 PM   #21
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Do you want to tell us what happened or is it too personal?


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Old 12-04-2004, 02:54 AM   #22
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You gotta love the irony of your title.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:13 PM   #23
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Hehee... I aked myself that question some times ago. Buuut.... If you say, that people that doesn't believe in God, will be punished, I can tell you, that Hell wasn't ment to be for human beings, but for Satan and his demons. But when a human sin, and don't believe in Jesus Christ, he don't get the forgiveness, you can say that is required to get saved.
This is a more peaceful way of looking at it, but keep in mind that's not how the belief is enforced on people. The statement I used ealier is closer to how most people are raised around the belief, and THAT is hurtful.

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Actually she's better now, I think. She got sent to a good private school and discovered she was a lesbian; she's gotten stronger. I'm still not going to hang out with her, though. Too many bad memories.

Also, as manipulative as the beginning of the thread was, I don't hate you. This type of heated argument is something I'd like to see more often at the the forums.

Also, there's this book you got to read called "Survivor" by Chuck Palahniuk. A quote that really applies to this conversation is "The only difference between suicide and martyrdom is press coverage." It's one of my favorite novels.


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Don't take this the wrong way, I like the Catholic religion and all, but I think it is a bit too intolerant and/or opressive on certain matters.
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Oh, I just love the Catholic church! I am not a Catholic myself, but I find it really fascinating. Probably because it is so heavily tied with European history which has always been my weak spot.

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The fact of the Eurapean history is one of the facts about their intolerance.
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Old 12-13-2004, 09:19 AM   #27
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Unhappy Personal problem

This next story is real, and if you don't want to read it then...don't read it.

Okay so my birthday was on 5 dec. and I invited some friends(2 guys and 3 chicks) and we bought vodka and got drunk.
One of the guys was already involved with someone that didn't got invited because she's too ugly.Anyway the other guy got the iresisteble one and I got the less iresisteble one, they almost got laid(good thing we were there), the involved guy was really sad and the other chick didn't drink(she's a very religious person) and I asked the one that was drunk if she wants to be with me and she replied YES(she also mentioned that she wouldhave said yes even she wasn't drunk).So we got the bed, the others got the couch, the not-so-drunk-chick left and the already-involved-guy started playing on the computer.
The day after I was with the chick I was talking about earyler, the ones that got the couch hated eachother(the chick hated him because she liked it and he hated her because he didn't got laid).
After three days she broke-up with me(mentioning that she was drunk and didn't know what she was doing) so I got real upset and started drinking till the scumm kicked me out.
Then when I got home I started listening to ballads(Guns N' Roses), winamp was set to random and it selected alice cooper - gail(if you don't know the song search the net for the lyrics, just for your own curiosity).
I went mad, I started listening to it over and over again, so I took a really big, really sharp knife and started toying with it.I cuted her name on my chest, it didn't hurt.
Then I took the knife to school with the thought of killing her.Instead of taking my own life I'll take someone else'es.
I couldn't bring myself to stab her because I sill felt something for her so I cutted my knuckles instead and started punching the school wall.
After she saw me she told me to stop, I was really pumped up.
After talking to her, she freaked out because of the knife.
She said that seh broke-up with me because she thought that I was drunk too back then and that I was with her just for fun.
Now I ask you this what should I do, should I:
1.Make-up with her(she wants to)
2.Just be friends(imposible!)
3.Ignore her the rest of my life(not that easy)
4.Kill myself(not bad)
5.Kill her(CHOP, CHOP, CHOP!)


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It's a Ozzy Osbourne song, you should listen it, it was a huge subject in the P.M.R.C. in the eightees.


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Old 12-13-2004, 12:39 PM   #29
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:52 PM   #30
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Choose 3. All girls are manipulative bitches anyway. A true emotionally solitary existence is a much less painful way. Loneliness is underrated.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Choose 3. All girls are manipulative bitches anyway. A true emotionally solitary existence is a much less painful way. Loneliness is underrated.
Hey, I'm with you there. At least all the girls I personally know are like that. I think it's better to be alone than with someone else. However, whenever you are lonely you are told to be un-sociable, and having relating problems, and so you are sent to the school psychologist (Not personal experience), and things like that, but anyway.
If I were you, I'll consider 1 or 3. It's up to you really.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:22 AM   #32
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Great to know that you are thinking so highly of us females. I can feel your love, guys!

Anyway, what I would do in that situation is to talk with her and find out whether she really likes you or not. Then, no matter the outcome, you should seek professional help. No offence.


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Asserting that all girls are manipulative bitches is like saying all guys are idiotic pricks. As in "possibly true, but not altogether polite to say out loud."


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First of all, note that I said "At least those I know", as in those I see everyday in school. I believe it depends on the person, not on the gender.
Second, I was just kidding, so don't take it seriously.
Thinking it through, if I were you, I'd go by 1.
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Asserting that all girls are manipulative bitches is like saying all guys are idiotic pricks. As in "possibly true, but not altogether polite to say out loud."
Okay. Yeah, that was judgmental. Not all girls. I'll narrow it down. All TEENAGE girls LIVING IN THE US are manipulative bitches.

I'm kidding. But on a more serious note I'm not. In my experience, from the females at my school, they tend to care less about friendship, they tend to cheat on their boyfriends a lot more than vise-versa, and they tend to lie more often and manipulate people to do what they want. Most of them, at least, or at least those that go to my school. And again, it may just be an age thing, most grown women I know are usually cooler. Except for my teachers.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 12-15-2004, 01:12 AM   #36
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Second, I was just kidding, so don't take it seriously.
I know. I wasn't being serious either.

A lot of the girls in my school are exactly like that. I guess it's the same in every school in every town in every country. Pity.


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In deference to the title of this thread, I have never seriously considered suicide until now. In following this conversation, however, I am struck with an irresistible urge to hang myself with my belt.


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Good to know we're spreading the love. Great to see your name on the board again, Gendo!


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Hellooo there!!! The suicide solution is over, really, I met the perfect girl and got married(pretty neat eh?). And this for that guy who wanted to hang 'imself by his belt or somthin', go to www.ogrish.com :chaisaw:.


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Thinking about it now, I'd rather hang you with my belt.


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