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Star Wars (the original trilogy) 7 33.33%
The Matrix Trilogy 3 14.29%
The Lord of The Rings Trilogy 4 19.05%
The Godfather Trilogy 2 9.52%
The Indiana Jones Trilogy 4 19.05%
Other 1 4.76%
Back to the Future 0 0%
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:24 AM   #1
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Best Movie Trilogy

I'm tied between Star Wars and Lord of The Rings. What do you guys think?


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Old 01-12-2005, 10:37 AM   #2
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Hmm i always liked Indiana Jhones and Godfather theyd be best.. Then i'd put Star wars and Matrix and last LOTR!
so its likke this
1. GodFather
2.Indiana
3 Star Wars
4. Matrix
5.LOTR


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Old 01-12-2005, 10:51 AM   #3
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1. GodFather
2.Indiana
3 Star Wars
4. Matrix
5.LOTR
...you put LOTR after Matrix? ...that's just completely wrong... part 2 and 3 (but especially part 3) sucked that badly... while LOTR was nice (they left out a few things, but i was astounding nevertheless)...
...as for star wars, i'm more a star trek guy... and i hate the two new ones (jarjar-binks being a great reason)... and i don't really liked the godfather series... and i never really watched indy...

...so it's

1. LOTR
2. Star Wars
3. Indy
4. Godfather
5. Matrix

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Old 01-12-2005, 01:02 PM   #4
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..you put LOTR after Matrix? ...that's just completely wrong...
That's completely TEH fact.


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Old 01-12-2005, 08:48 PM   #5
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1. Star Wars
1. Lord Of The Rings
1. Indiana Jones
1. Lethal Weapon
1. Alien
1. Die Hard
7. Back To The Future
8. Matrix
9. The Godfather

I stopped watching The Matrix after I saw the second part in cinema. Wait, part 2 and 3 don't even exist. I deny them.

I voted for Star Wars since I think it's fúcking ground-breaking. I don't want to put LOTR down, but you can expect stuff like that nowadays (even though a lot of movies don't have it). When I watched Star Wars 4 the other day I couldn't help but be amazed from all the sets, gadgets and overall design.

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Old 01-12-2005, 09:17 PM   #6
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1. The Matrix trilogy - those three films continue to amaze me
2. Indy - Quite rompin', especially the first and third
3. Star Wars - for the first one. The other two, except the second just a little bit, never did much for me.
4. LOTR - I feel the only one that was truly decent of the three was the Two Towers, the first I had no care for the characters and was overall inconsistent, and the last hour of the third lagged to no mercy. Also, Howard Shore needs to learn subtlety. One of the worst uses of a musical score ever.

I have never seen any of the Godfather movies.


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Old 01-12-2005, 11:38 PM   #7
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1. star wars OT
2. star wars PT
3. Indy
4. LOTR
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Old 01-13-2005, 05:32 AM   #8
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I'm not really gonna put the Matirx trilogy anywhere.

As for not including Back to the Future, well, that's just wrong. Granted, it probably wouldn't have stood much of a chance against those favotrites (which is why I won't bother editing the poll) but still.

I had a small conflict of interest between star wars and Indy, but star wars won because they followed one from each other, as apose to a new adventure in the next movie (indy). Of course if BTTF was in there, I may have voted for that.

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Old 01-13-2005, 08:19 AM   #9
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Technically it's not a trilogy, but if we discount IV and V for this little poll, I'm a sucker for Rocky.


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Old 01-13-2005, 08:49 AM   #10
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I'm listening to The Rocky Story right now. There's some serious ear candy on the CD! I especially like the Vince DiCola stuff.

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Old 01-15-2005, 03:31 AM   #11
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Also, Howard Shore needs to learn subtlety. One of the worst uses of a musical score ever.
R-i-i-i-i-ght. Have you listened to his The Silence Of The Lambs score? Or eXistenZ? Or Dogma?

You better think before calling him on one movie series he did (and did excellently, IMHO).

Really bad use of a musical score? Watch Léon or The Fifth Element. Now that's bad!

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Old 01-15-2005, 06:26 AM   #12
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Hey man you can't knock Serra and Besson! Leon is amazing.


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Old 01-15-2005, 09:09 AM   #13
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I hated LOTR. The books, the movies, everything. It deserved four of the eleven Oscars it got--- the ones for technical achievement. In my opinion, they weren't great movies at all, or even good ones. Just four hours of sappy and triumphant music, paired with very annoying characters that repeat exactly what the other one just said.

Star Wars (the original trilogy) was great, but I had a bone to pick about the Return of the Jedi. Now, we all remember in Empire Strikes Back, that when Luke disobeys Yoda to go after Han and Leah, Ben Kinobi is all "He was our last hope," and Yoda goes "No, there is another..."
As it was made clear in Jedi, he was talking about Leah. Well, it would've made TONS more sense if Luke was sueded by Vader and joined the dark side, and Leah would have gone all Jedi on them and killed Vader and the Emperor, and either killed or saved Luke. I mean, not only does that make sense, it's a badass ending. I mean, seriously, we've all wanted to see Leah kick some ass since the moment we laid eyes on her. Really, what's better than a gold bikini and a light saber?

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Old 01-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #14
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1)Lord of the Rings, by a mile.
2) Star Wars
3) Indiana Jones - this and Star Wars are probably more entertaining than LOTR, but hell, I look for more than just entertainment in films.
4) Back to the Future
5) Matrix - first one was good, the other two were fun but flawed.

I can't comment on Godfather since I haven't seen it (yet).
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Old 01-15-2005, 11:13 AM   #15
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Old 01-15-2005, 12:54 PM   #16
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Old 01-15-2005, 01:23 PM   #17
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Nice try, Lao Che!

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Han and Leah, Ben Kinobi ... about Leah ... wanted to see Leah kick some ass
Dude, you're thinking about Leah Remini. It's Leia! And Kenobi.
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Anyway, I thought the Indy Trilogy was the best. Sure, Temple of Doom sucked, but MAN did Lost Ark and Last Crusade rock my world.
Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts.

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Old 01-15-2005, 01:48 PM   #18
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R-i-i-i-i-ght. Have you listened to his The Silence Of The Lambs score? Or eXistenZ? Or Dogma?
I said USE of the musical score. The music itself wasn't that bad but for the film it was overbearing and headache-inducing, especially for the first.

And Howard Shore's early nineties stuff was pretty good, such as Single White Female, Silence of the Lambs, and Ed Wood. I have not seen eXistenZ, and the score to Dogma was a little too cartoonish for me (except for some of the stuff at the end).

You're right though, I really shouldn't be blaming Shore. Maybe it was the music supervisor or Peter Jackson. It's just in LOTR they'd have tamborins and brass and cymbals overplaying it while people are just having a conversation or something. In fact, it seemed like there was very few points of the film where there was no music. Because of this, when a huge battle kicked in, it would seem completely unimportant. I think like 95% of the film had music going on and 80% of that music was all epic and brass.

I don't really remember the Fifth Element's music, but I know that one opera scene was pretty sweet.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:30 PM   #19
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Re: Nice try, Lao Che!

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Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. I actually prefer it to Raiders. When I first saw it I didn't like it either (it doesn't even have Nazis!) but it's really grown on me since.

I'm not sure JofaGuht is right, though... I think the LOTR score was handled really well. The fellowship theme (that typical DAN DAN DA DA DAAAAN) is done so it plays strongest when the fellowship is strongest, and the only point where it was really "tamborins and brass and cymbals" was when the Felowship set out from Rivendell (because the Fellowship is strongest at that point - and no, there's no characters talking with this music either).

95% is not true, but even if it was right, what's wrong with that? Or, when you boil the matter down, what's wrong with "epic and brass"?

Interestingly the music hardly ever plays during a big battle, which is rare in films. Instead it plays when there's high emotional development, and to me it's refreshing to have big battles without sound. There's no glorification, just the clang of metal on metal.

There's also some amazing use of sound in general, like thje deaths of Borimir and Gandalf (when all other sounds apart from the music fade), or the great use of themes (like how you'll hear, say, the Fellowship alter in intensity depending on what state the fellowship is in).
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Old 01-15-2005, 05:07 PM   #20
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95% is not true, but even if it was right, what's wrong with that? Or, when you boil the matter down, what's wrong with "epic and brass"?
Well, it's extremely distracting. The look of the film is already flashy enough to give me a headache. I'm trying to listen to the dialogue here.

And not all of it is epic and brass, though I still think a lot of it is. Either way, the music's always there. It never leaves. It never gives you a break. And mostly, it doesn't serve the purpose of just adding texture or emphasis to the movie...it stands out too much. Sometimes it felt like the music was there just for the sake of being there (FELT LIKE, by the way. Just wanted to clear that up before someone called me on it.)

It also could do with conditions. For example, I watched The Two Towers on the small TV in my room. It was only a little noticable then. But, in a movie theatre, it's f*cking unbearable.

And it wasn't just the music that made me have a problem with LOTR. Guybrush stated a lot of those problems for me. Overall, I watch films for escapist and entertainment reasons. Watching LOTR felt like homework.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Re: Nice try, Lao Che!

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Dude, you're thinking about Leah Remini. It's Leia! And Kenobi.
Ah, so it is. I just checked www.imdb.com for the spelling, and you're right.

But that doesn't make it any less cooler if she had busted in with a light saber and WHOOPED VADER ASS!

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Wrong. TOD wasn't bad. People just always remember the bad parts.

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Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my head."
Chattar Lal: "Then your hands, perhaps?"
Indiana Jones: "No, it wasn't my hands. It was my..."
[looks down]
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Wrong? How can I be wrong on an opinion? I watched the thing recently, and though the dialogue was snappy like the original, it just wasn't good at all. Acting was sub-par from...well...everyone who wasn't Harrison Ford, and come, on, really, the whole thing was a bit much.


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> JofaGuht:
I have not seen eXistenZ

You should.

> JofaGuht:
In fact, it seemed like there was very few points of the film where there was no music. I think like 95% of the film had music going on and 80% of that music was all epic and brass.

Either way, the music's always there. It never leaves. It never gives you a break. And mostly, it doesn't serve the purpose of just adding texture or emphasis to the movie...it stands out too much.

Then why do you like Star Wars? Its soundtracks fill 2 CDs per episode, it's practically always there and it's not exactly holding back either.

> JofaGuht:
I don't really remember the Fifth Element's music, but I know that one opera scene was pretty sweet.

> LucasTones:
Hey man you can't knock Serra and Besson! Leon is amazing.

I knew this would happen. Again.

I merely was saying that it was badly used. On its own the music may be nice and I don't have a problem with it. Give this man a record deal, by all means! Whoever slapped the music in the context it appears in and whoever decided on the volume should have his ass kicked.

What's Happening Out There? underlaying a scene where Mathilda is standing in the corridor, anxious to be let in by Léon. You don't have to know the movie to tell that it doesn't fit. It's too slow, there's no tension. It works to underline the grief she feels, but the scene doesn't call for that. That would be needed only for a very short time of the whole scene. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a good tune and invest some more time to match the music to what's happening on screen.

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and i never really watched indy...

It's on Pro7 next Sunday. That's your chance.

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Then why do you like Star Wars? Its soundtracks fill 2 CDs per episode, it's practically always there and it's not exactly holding back either.
Well, first of all, I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars, in fact I thought LOTR was more accomplished, but just less fun to watch. It's been a while since I've seen Start Wars, but either way, I noticed the score less, so that probably means in fit better.


There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing? Not a speck of light is showing, so the danger must be growing. Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing 'cause the rowers keep on rowing, and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. AAAGGHHH!!!
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:49 PM   #24
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Empire rocked me. Return of the Jedi was cool, too. I wasn't a fan of the first, but it's still fun anyway. Just...short.

You know, George Lucas barely wrote any of the trilogy, and I don't think he directed any either. Must be why the new movies suck...


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The Silence of the lambs triology. allthough I havent' seen the 3rd yet, and Hannibal was meh...(apart from the brain eating scene)


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You know, George Lucas barely wrote any of the trilogy, and I don't think he directed any either. Must be why the new movies suck...
I know where you're coming from, but he was a hell of a lot more involved than you're giving him credit for. Depending if you believe what you read, the original screenplay he wrote was a condensed version of Episodes IV, V and VI, and I've even heard of the original (early 70's) "Adventures of Mace Windu" script containing elements from the new trilogy. Even if this is all lies, he still wrote and directed the original movie, which is what started the whole worldwide phenomenon. The stress of directing this movie ruined his marriage, and made him decide to leave the sequels to other people.

That said, it's not like he just phoned up Larry Kasdan and said "hey, can you write me a sequel to Star Wars please?" - he told him the plot and story etc, what needed to happen. He also co-wrote Return of the Jedi, which although isn't regarded as the best Star Wars movie, certainly isn't bad.

And I'm fed up of people bitching about the new movies anyway... okay, so The Phantom Menace wasn't what most people were expecting, and the political intrigue was a bit dull, not to mention the whole midi-chlorian thing... but Episode II was great, and in retrospect you need the dull politics to explain what happens in the later movies. I mean, you couldn't make a movie about World War II that attempted to cover every aspect of the war without including all the pre-fighting politics, and discussions, so it's understandable.


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Yeah, the bonus disk on the Star Wars DVDs really show how much Lucas put into Star Wars personally.
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And I'm fed up of people bitching about the new movies anyway... okay, so The Phantom Menace wasn't what most people were expecting, and the political intrigue was a bit dull, not to mention the whole midi-chlorian thing... but Episode II was great, and in retrospect you need the dull politics to explain what happens in the later movies. I mean, you couldn't make a movie about World War II that attempted to cover every aspect of the war without including all the pre-fighting politics, and discussions, so it's understandable.
You sir are a very wise man. I just recently rewatched the new ones (Episode I for the first time since I originally bought it on a ... get this... a VHS.) I found I to be almost unbearable. I knew it was bad, but I forgot just how boring it can be at points. But II, that movie blows my mind. I love all of it (cept maybe that scene where Anakin and Padme are out in that field) and the fight between Jango and Obi-Wan rocks my socks off. Quite literally, I had to go find them afterwards. This was pretty impressive considering I was wearing shoes at the time.


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Yeah, elTee is right.

I liked the whole Obi-Wan storyline of Star Wars 2. I think it shows pretty well what Jedi do.

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That said, it's not like he just phoned up Larry Kasdan and said "hey, can you write me a sequel to Star Wars please?" - he told him the plot and story etc, what needed to happen.
He was also on set most days during filming and had mroe of an involvement than many would give him credit for. empire is as much his film as it is Larry's.

But please be greatful that his mariage broke up (to an extente of course) otherwise we wouldn't have Pixar.

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Yeah Episode II is great (though not a classic) and Episode I isn't as bad as people say it is. I'm looking forward to Episode III especially.
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I wish Lucas would give in and let it earn a PG-13 rating. I really wanna see some Jedi get slaughtered.


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I read that it's already heading towards PG-13 / 12A in the UK.


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Old 01-23-2005, 05:25 PM   #35
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I read on jedinet.com that it was rumoured to be heading towards PG-13, but then a week later Lucas made some big statement about how thats not true, and that it will remain a family series.


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Old 01-23-2005, 08:22 PM   #36
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What is the UK raiting scale anyway, 'tones? I know the Australian, but not the UK. Is the biritish version of the MPAA as big of dicks as they are? Meow? Meowmeowmeow?


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Old 01-24-2005, 05:31 AM   #37
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I think britain are lightening up slightly. We currently have Uc (everyone can see it, but made for lickle tykes), U (Universal) 12 (now mostly on DVD's and Vides, but for years 12 and over) 12a (used in cinemas, kids under 12 can come accompanied by an adult), 15 and then 18 which are both self explanetory.

But I think that barr few serious things, we're aloud to see anything under the 18 certificate and allowed to say f*** as many times as we want under the 15 certificate.

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The ratings board are definately lightening up, that's for sure. A load of movies that were previously banned are now on general release (such as The Exorcist and Straw Dogs) and they're allowing much more explicit sex scenes in non-porno movies (there's a seperate rating for hard porn, and not many places really sell the stuff that gets released on that certificate. Or maybe they do, but I don't tend to frequent porn stores )

The main issues they dislike haven't really changed though - things like rape scenes where the woman is depicted as enjoying it (I think this was the issue with Straw Dogs) and really graphic violence. I remember they cut 4 seconds from Fight Club, which really isn't much and didn't detract from the plot. And recently there was a big issue over the Team America sex scene, but that movie got released as a 15 so it clearly wasn't too much of an issue.

Also, I'd like to point out that A Clockwork Orange wasn't banned in the UK, as a lot of people seem to think - Kubrick requested that it was withdrawn after he recieved death threats relating to gangs dressing like Alex and his droogs. As soon as he died they fell over themselves to re-release it, which I thought was really unsubtle, but I was glad to finally be able to see the movie.

Actually, that's not true at all - I went to the video store with my mum to rent a movie, and I wanted The Exorcist which I hadn't seen and had recently been unbanned. She remembered seeing it in the theatre as a teenager and said I couldn't get it, and suggested I watch A Clockwork Orange instead. She clearly hadn't seen it, but didn't think it could be worse than the other movie. I'm glad that happened, cos it's one of my favourite movies


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Yeah, I heard most of Europe, when it comes to the ratings board, cares less about sex and more about violence, which is vise-versa in the US.

But I do have a confession to make. Last year, I was watching the superbowl half-time show, and ever since Janet Jackson's boob was exposed, it just destroyed my mind. Ever since then, I've been compulsively murdering and raping people, and I can't stop. In fact, I believe I'm the one responsible for Yufster becoming pregnant, but due to all the GHB I gave her beforehand, it makes sense she completely forgot about it and blamed her teacher.

And now our lives our ruined, all due to the FCC's negligence.


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Old 01-25-2005, 05:34 AM   #40
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No no, it was due to a "wardrobe malfunction!"

See, in France I think it's illegeal to *not* get your tits out on live TV...
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