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Old 01-20-2005, 03:13 PM   #41
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DM to me the Total war series has less risks in it, you don't have to worry about econ in the middle of a battle, I like games where you do that since it adds more depth and realism into it and can really tip the tide in your favour by launching a raid on an enemy base in the middle of a critical battle distracting your enemy while you can micro away unfettered.


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Old 01-20-2005, 04:08 PM   #42
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You shouldnt have to worry about microfarming in the middle of a battle....thats TOTAL war...hence the name.

RTS games have focuse too much about worrying about the chicken feather plucker providing enough food, rather than combat, which is what its all about.

I dont want to spend essential moments worrying if i have enough baked beans for my troops! All i care about is if my troopers can win the day - with the beans they already have!

I will trade my magic beans for Rome total war anyday. No other RTS even comes close. And to compare Generals in this sentence would be an insult!

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Old 01-20-2005, 06:49 PM   #43
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Fan boys bashing everything on their way...

Seriously, like I said, different games offer different play styles that suits different tastes.
I'll go back to my Rainbow Six vs UT2k4 example. One is a tactical shooter, the other is an arcade style shooter.

Both have their fan based, both have players that prefer either style. A lot of people like the econ management as part of an RTS, others prefer just the battle part.

It is fine. Stop trying to stir up trouble by bashing this, counter-bashing that, etc.
Get over it people. Just let people like what they want to like, no bashing, everyone has the right to an opinion.


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Old 01-20-2005, 10:14 PM   #44
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I like it best when it's set asside from the actual combat segment.

I'll use the downtime to develop, improve and make my forces combat ready, then launch a campaign when and where it's needed.




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Old 01-22-2005, 03:27 AM   #45
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Boran - obviously the random map generator can be turned off... it's called playing a scenario. Playing a scenario set up in the right way is no different from having set maps like Dawn of War and C&C Generals. A random map adds so much more replayability to a game. Sure, people can make new maps all the time, but playing on a mirror reflection equal-opportunity map just isn't much fun for me in the end.

I much prefer a random map. Sure, occaisionally people get a bum deal and the terrain is against them. That just means you have to prove your ability even more! The terrain won't be against you every game, some games it will work in your favour.

Saber - as Viceroy pointed out Age of Mythology had a random map generator - one of the best and fairest I might add - and it is 3D.


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Old 01-22-2005, 06:52 AM   #46
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yep it is very fair and balanced, you can pick complete random or pick things like Afelheim Erebus and many more and those are basic templates for maps like Afleheim can be good for long drawn out battles due to easily defendable hilly terrain all over. but the Maps do end up random you'll never get the same map lay out twice.

If you can't take what the game gives you, you shouldn't be playing RTS since you have to think of a strategy to win, if your enemy is on top of a hill wall of the hill make sure they can't escape take map control create a large fortified area and build a wonder, they'll come to you to stop the wonder or when their area runs out of resources, your army will be strong while their's weaknes for lack of resources.


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Old 01-22-2005, 10:02 PM   #47
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Not many new RTS have random map generators for the simple fact it takes longer and it is harder to balance then just premade maps.


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Old 01-23-2005, 09:38 AM   #48
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for some though it's the corner stone, I think for EaW we'll be seeing a combination since most of Westwood's games had set maps and a fairly basic RM generator.


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