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Old 01-19-2005, 10:47 AM   #1
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Did you guys here about the deal EA signed with the NFL?
It basically put an end to all other NFL football video games.
The only way there will be other football video games is if they use made up players and teams (and we all know how much fun that is). That's far worse than anything Microsoft has done. They totally got rid of all competition.

You know how EA likes to put out the same game every year with very few upgrades? You think it was bad then wait till they don't have competition for people to run to.

This sucks.
I don't have that many EA games anyway but I'm boycotting anything they put out.

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Old 01-19-2005, 11:14 AM   #2
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Yeah, it has all of the other software/game developers up in a hissy (with good reason).

Isn't the "deal" for something completely outrageous, I think it's for 15 years or so?!

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Old 01-19-2005, 11:19 AM   #3
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It gets even worse. If you look here they bought the rights to the ESPN brand name too. Basically demolishing Sega and the ESPN sports games for 15 years. Even the NBA games.

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Old 01-19-2005, 11:36 AM   #4
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I don't really play Sports games that often(I don't own a consol) But that is total BS. EA eliminates the competition and says it is the best thing for the consumers How is that supposed to work. Competion is whats best for consumers not some Ravenous Corporate monopoly. Whats EA gonna do next?
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Old 01-19-2005, 12:29 PM   #5
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EA eliminates the competition and says it is the best thing for the consumers How is that supposed to work.


In other words, it won't work.

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Whats EA gonna do next?
Make **** sports games.

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Old 01-19-2005, 12:38 PM   #6
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The only EA games i ever play are the 007 games and they are good but never great. I've never liked easport games because they are always C!@£. I'm in the uk and the football (soccor for you americans) games are never the best and other companies are far better
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Old 01-19-2005, 12:41 PM   #7
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I wish I was from a country that liked soccer then I wouldn't care about this.

Soccer games are fun though maybe I'll switch to that.
Can anybody suggest a good one. I like sports games that also allow you to manage the team financially. In fact I like management sims better than the arcade games.

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Old 01-19-2005, 08:17 PM   #8
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^^^^
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oh, and i found some interesting poll results concerning the nfl deal w/ EA @ gamespot (bottom right of page)

heh, "pact with satan" sure sounds popular.......

granted, thats what i voted for as well......


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Old 01-19-2005, 08:56 PM   #9
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Hey, even Microsoft doesn't stoop as low as EA does. I gotta give them that.
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:22 AM   #10
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EA has just made a bad, bad impression on the gaming world. I hope nobody buys their NFL series now! Boycott, people!


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Old 01-20-2005, 07:25 AM   #11
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a question to all the lawyer's out there: isn't there some kind of legal way that gamers can stop this from happening??? i mean, there's gotta be some kind of anti-monopoly law for this kind of thing, right???

i've been a big fan of the madden series for a long time, but when sega had introduced ESPN 2k5 for just $20, i probably would've converted over if i had a console. to me, it was much more of an improvement and a more rounded game overall than both the previous ESPN game AND madden 2k5. why?? because besides about 5-7 changes and additions to the game, madden 2k5 was almost a carbon copy of madden 2k4. apparently, EA's solution to sega putting out a better NFL game is to prevent them from publishing one in the first place. so, instead of complying with the demands of corporate competition and make a better game, they just want to flex their greater financial might. sounds like a monopoly to me.

the big question is now what are we going to do now that both the NFL and ESPN licenses belong to EA??? as i've stated further, i'm thinkin legal action, if its possible.


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Old 01-20-2005, 07:39 AM   #12
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oh, and i found some interesting poll results concerning the nfl deal w/ EA @ gamespot (bottom right of page)

heh, "pact with satan" sure sounds popular.......

granted, thats what i voted for as well......
Thanks for that Gamespot link this was at the top of the page.

Oh yeah I voted pact with satan too.

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Old 01-22-2005, 11:43 PM   #13
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Old 01-23-2005, 07:50 PM   #14
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only EA game i like is the lotr ones. never played their sports titles...(prefer playing real sports where i can risk real injuries)


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Old 01-24-2005, 07:16 AM   #15
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I don't believe this is entirely EA's doing. IIRC, the NFL only wanted one company to own the rights to NFL games, and it was EA that came out on top.

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Old 01-24-2005, 07:32 AM   #16
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I don't believe this is entirely EA's doing. IIRC, the NFL only wanted one company to own the rights to NFL games, and it was EA that came out on top.

How do you explain them buying the ESPN name so that Sega can't make their 2K game that's in direct competition with NBA Live. I think the 2005 versions of the Sega sports games sold to many games cause they dropped the price to 19.99 and EA decided before Sega could grow their market share any more they would ruin them.

This is exactly what Microsoft does. Use their influence and deep pockets to muscle out the smaller guy.

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Old 01-25-2005, 07:46 AM   #17
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How do you explain them buying the ESPN name so that Sega can't make their 2K game that's in direct competition with NBA Live.
Likely a seperate deal. I don't know for sure, but I would suggest that perhaps ESPN didn't want to lose their association with NFL games, and so signed a deal with EA since they now have exclusive rights. And as part of that deal the NBA contract was included. Just a guess.

All I'm saying is that from certain things I have read EA isn't solely responsible for what has transpired. They did, however, come out on top.

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Old 01-25-2005, 08:28 AM   #18
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All I'm saying is that from certain things I have read EA isn't solely responsible for what has transpired. They did, however, come out on top.
Only from the NFL side of it. I agree with you there.
But it's a little suspicious that they also managed to wipe out a competitive basketball game while they were at it. That's a little too convenient.


edit: Looks like Take Two jumped on baseball before EA could. Look here.
This is bad. What the hecks going on?

I love the quote from the EA rep, "his proves that there's plenty of competition in sports games,".
The competition isn't in the games it's in the wallet and business practices of the companies.


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Old 01-26-2005, 06:50 AM   #19
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I quite agree about EA screwing up C&C after TS came out, generals was way too easy, had superweapons that couldn't be disabled (also some generals upgrades were superweapons). It also had superunits (like the airplanes that couldn't be shot down before they threw their bombs) and it is not really accurate, claiming the us rangers to be the best trained and skilled special forces in the world (SAS and Commandos are much better). I am also glad I didn't buy this one.

Other things EA did that annoyed me are that in LOTR:BFME you can't skip the intro movies that contain company logo's (like for example when you start up a game and the LucasArts logo appears you usually can skip them with 'Escape' or 'Spacebar') so therefore I didn't buy this one either. Also strange is that in LOTR:BFME and R:TW (the Total War series also has something to do with EA, though they arent mentioned there, or skippable) when a cavalry regiment runs into a regiment of heavy armored infantry with a full charge the infantrymen are usually launched all over the entire regiment (consisting of usually 160 soldiers on huge unit scale in R:TW). Especially noticable when the infantrymen are armed with pikes of up to 6 meters long. So when wearing a full armor of about 50-55kg you fly at least 6 meters high and far when hit by cavalry (I don't really think so, do you). Though LOTR:BFME has this quite limiited, infantry does fly when hit by a cavalry charge, and here they also survive and can gat up wearing the same weight of armor. Not really realistic don't you think?
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:48 PM   #20
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you guys are just jealous that were taking over all the competition, EA is teh greatest, don't forget that. i hate all you non-EA likers
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:55 PM   #21
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Your lack of capitalization and punctuation make that all the more profound.


Have you read how they treat their employees?
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Old 02-05-2005, 08:37 PM   #22
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you guys are just jealous that were taking over all the competition, EA is teh greatest, don't forget that. i hate all you non-EA likers
ya, EA is the greatest because they've managed to shove all the other players out of the market through different kinds of corporate bullying. this deal with the NFL is no different.

oh, and dare i ask, why would we be jealous of EA??? i guess some of us would be jealous of people rolling around in money, but so far, i haven't seen anyone that's posted in this thread being "jealous" of EA.

oh, and the "taking over the competition" part: thats called creating a monopoly. if you like monopolies, then fine, i hope your fully willing (and able) to pay 100 USD for your next budget title video game.


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Old 02-05-2005, 08:44 PM   #23
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I have to say Madden is beater it just more realistic

In ESPN my friend (with my help) was ranked number 1 on xbox live. When we faced the number one guy to become number one all he did the whole game was **** up the zoom on the ball so all u could see is the ball. And it was to easy with the Bucs all u needed was Alslot and just hit Duck Soulder and u would run every one over.

^^^ that was a while ago the year after the bucs won the superbowl so the might have fixed that. My friend won that game and then had a rematch and lost and he pretty much stopped playing it cuz he got some other great game some dumb star wars game something like Old kights yea i thought i sucked, u may have heard of that game.


lol when i saw him first play the game i thought it sucked cuz i was still playing N64 Zelda and i love that game. So i thought RPG were no fun lol i was so wrong
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Old 02-07-2005, 07:28 AM   #24
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I love the fact that MTV2 say we're(actually he said were but...) as if buying the games makes him a part of EA.


Like Rhett put I heard they treat their employees like slaves. What a great company. Even't Microsoft treats their employees good.

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Old 02-12-2005, 11:11 AM   #26
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Hey, over at GameFAQs, the daily poll is "Which game company do you hate the most?"

Of course I voted for EA.

spoiler:
And not surprisingly, others feel the same way.


-Update- Might as well link to the results.

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Old 02-15-2005, 10:18 AM   #27
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To add on to the hatred of EA they also bough 20% of Ubi Soft. Which the President of Ubi Soft calls an attempt at hostile takeover.

To reiterate my point:


EA = Microsoft

Now just like people type 'Micro$oft', now you can type EA$port$.

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Old 02-16-2005, 01:10 PM   #30
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I cancelled my SubscriptionS to Shadowbane as soon as that 20% buyout was released.
I try to boycott anything made by EA. They are a Zerg of greedy no gooders and I will do my best to not support them.
Even if it means not buying Splintercell 3 Sniff

Although... if one of you were to buy Splintercell3 for me... then I wouldnt be directly giving EA any money.... Hmm...

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Wait, Ubisoft still needs our support!
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Hopefully, their deal with ESPN will at least make the presentation side of Madden look better, although I agree with the fact and it is a fact that competition brings out the best in people, groups, teams, companies, whatever, I have to admit I enjoy playing Madden so I wont be able to boycott EA, but I am very displeased that they chose to deal with their competition by eliminating them, all I know is that if they dont put out a vastly improved game I am going to be pissed off, but I'll still buy the game... forgive me, although I do like MVP Baseball and it's the best baseball game I've played


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Old 02-24-2005, 06:11 AM   #33
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haha, yknow whats funny?
most "gamers" (atleast console gamers) dont even think of these things. they only care about the game thats it. they wont care if only one company is making the games they are too stupid to realize that.
o well, i havent bought a signle ea game since generals (as someone pointed out earlier) and after i read the article on how EA treats it employees i decided to not buy anything EA related. *cough*pirate time*cough*

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Old 02-24-2005, 07:04 AM   #34
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EA also reminds me of Czerka. Whenever I hear somebody talk about EA I always think of those Czerka guys in their uniforms and their mercenaries. I am currently thinking of making an Armada2 mod where EA, Micro$oft and Czerka plan to take over the galaxy. Off course they will be stopped by all the good guys on LucasForums with their Stardestroyers and MC cruisers.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:56 AM   #35
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...they are too stupid to realize that.
That's a stereotype, and a ridiculous one at that. A lot of console gamers are also PC gamers. Also a lot of PC gamers pick their games the same way console gamers do. Walmart is a big seller of PC games. I don't know if you remember this but a few years bag a top selling PC game was a hunting game.

Ok you think console gamers are stupid. Do you like sports games? There are hardcore gamers that think people that like sports games are stupid. You're both allowed your opinions.
In my opinion your both wrong.

I think you are right that there's a big section of gamers (console and PC) that don't think about the company who make the games. They just buy games they want and that's it.
If you think about it it's a lot simpler that way. No drama.
No, "I wish XXX company made this game instead of YYY company, it would have been so much better."

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this is how i see it: if you're snubbing the competition through exclusive contract rights and buying portions of other companies to have a hand in their operations, then thats called monopolizing. do you honestly think that EA is going to help Ubisoft? or do you still believe that EA $port$ is going to churn out better games whenever they have almost no competition?

or better yet, what's going to happen whenever the only major publisher is EA? simple: higher prices, and i'm not talking about inflation adjustments.

EA can claim that they're helping gamers all they want to, but i honestly can't see any good coming out of all the corporate bullying they've been doing recently.


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i really hate resurrecting old threads as much as anyone, but this is quite relevent. anyway, i found a gamespot article that gives EA's point of view on the issue. check it out:

the link: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03...s_6120509.html

edit: and for the curious, you will note that the article's date is today, which means it took EA well over a month to respond to the criticism its been recieving over the issue.


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... which means it took EA well over a month to respond to the criticism its been recieving over the issue.
They probably had their PR and Communications departments trying hard to figure out how to spin their actions in a good way.

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They probably had their PR and Communications departments trying hard to figure out how to spin their actions in a good way.
Too bad they let Sitrin open his mouth and actually "talk"...if that's what you want to call it..
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Yet Sitrin also believes that just because EA has eliminated the competition doesn't mean it will rest on its laurels. "I think for those people that think that this is the end of innovation because it gets rid of competition, I think they just have too narrow of a definition of what competition is. The reality is, competition for Madden…is much broader than that. For us, competition is Halo 2, Grand Theft Auto, or any of those games," Sitrin said.
Pleeeaaase... EA has done nothing BUT rest on its ass, even when it did have competition! And to even mention other games in a completley different genre as 'competition' is just another way of trying to sidetrack the public into looking away from the bigger picture here.
It's not competition if I have no interest in those games. What if all I played was Sports games?.. no competition there Sitrin... at least none with the backing they've seemed to 'conveniently' stuff in their backpocket...

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I don't play sports games, I don't watch sports, i don't talk about sports, I don't care about sports. I do play tennis and golf in the summer and ski in the winter. I am not a "competitionist", just a player - me.

Sorry, after an hour of reading this thread... I just had to get that of my chest.



Oh...
Monopoly (IRL) = bad, not good, evil!
Monopoly (the board game) = somewhat fun.


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