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Old 11-12-2004, 10:40 PM   #1
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does Dash survive?

Ive always thought Dash Rendar was cool. Ive played a game called Shadow Of The Empire and it never says if he dies. Does he die, if so how?



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He dies at the end of Shadows of the Empire (the book anyway). His ship gets hit by a piece of debris, and that is how he dies. I don't remember the exact details of the battle though. I think it was on Coruscant.
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Old 11-12-2004, 11:36 PM   #3
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In the book he dies, but I always have been under the impression that it was intended for his survival to be a matter of inerpretation.


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Perhaps, but you would think that they would have picked up the storyline by now. They could be increasing the suspense, or not yet decided how to use him, or some other reason; but I think it is more likely that his death was supposed to be definite.
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In the book, it was written as more definite that he died. However in the game it was deliberately scripted that his death, and the ships critical damage was moreso staged to facilitate his escape.......

but dont just take my word for it of course

http://www.starwars.com/databank/cha...rendar/eu.html

I hope someone else can remember this, but I am almost sure he may have been mentioned in the NJO, although may not have actually appeared/spoken etc

in additon, the outrider is the damn coolest SW ship EVAR !


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Cool,i did not know that.thanx


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Yes, it turns out he seem to have made it.

There's something about it in the "Ask the Jedi Council" section.




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Old 11-13-2004, 01:37 PM   #8
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Cool Ive always like Dash and his cool armour!



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In the book, it was written as more definite that he died. However in the game it was deliberately scripted that his death, and the ships critical damage was moreso staged to facilitate his escape.......

but dont just take my word for it of course

http://www.starwars.com/databank/cha...rendar/eu.html

I hope someone else can remember this, but I am almost sure he may have been mentioned in the NJO, although may not have actually appeared/spoken etc

in additon, the outrider is the damn coolest SW ship EVAR !


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Old 11-16-2004, 04:25 AM   #10
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Indeed the Outrider is a cool ship, THATS WHY ITS ME NEW NAME
tis a cool ship and name to boot.... I like the levels you get to play as the outrider in the Shadows of The Empire Game

My friend has a model of the outrider, its pretty awsome. The only other similar cool ship are the other modified freighters in the X-Wing Alliance game sorta like the falcon but with the cockpit bit in the middle, rather than on the side

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Old 11-16-2004, 04:42 AM   #11
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I rembember him dyinging in the book, but if I remember correctly, when you beat the game on N64, you saw a cutscene that shows he faked his death for *can't remember reason*.

Also he appears in XWA and helps free some bothans I think, and I beleive this happens after the events in SotE...

I could be wrong.
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Old 11-16-2004, 05:54 AM   #12
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Doesn't he reappear in the comic Shadows of the Empire:Resurrection, or something like that, maybe Shadows of the Empire:Evolution, that sounds right too.


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Old 11-16-2004, 08:52 AM   #13
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Dash was my favourite Non Jedi Character. Of course before I got very much in EU i didnt care much for jedi. Dash indeed does have the Best Ship period. The outrider was just wicked. I still have the little toys of dash and his ship. Also i Have IG-88 and Xizor and luke From SotE and Chewbacca from SotE. I loved SotE
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Dash was my favourite Non Jedi Character. Of course before I got very much in EU i didnt care much for jedi. Dash indeed does have the Best Ship period. The outrider was just wicked. I still have the little toys of dash and his ship. Also i Have IG-88 and Xizor and luke From SotE and Chewbacca from SotE. I loved SotE
If only the old rumours of a SOTE cg movie were true, that wouldve been cool.... though, I wonder what the SW TV series will be all about

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Re: does Dash survive?

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Ive always thought Dash Rendar was cool. Ive played a game called Shadow Of The Empire and it never says if he dies. Does he die, if so how?
If you beat the game at a higher difficulty, you see an additional cut scene after the explosion. He is alive and well.
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Old 11-17-2004, 04:58 PM   #16
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By the way I looked in the databank and it says all sorts of stuff that happended after his supposed death where was this covered?
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Old 11-19-2004, 12:03 AM   #17
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Re: Re: does Dash survive?

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If you beat the game at a higher difficulty, you see an additional cut scene after the explosion. He is alive and well.
Arrrggg you beat me to it. I played that game a bazillion times through on every difficulty level. And yeah, he lives. So does that goofy ass robot of his, "Leebo" I think it was? Yeah. They fly around in hyperspace at the end of the game saying...things to each other that I don't quite recall.


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Old 11-19-2004, 04:31 AM   #18
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Arrrggg you beat me to it. I played that game a bazillion times through on every difficulty level. And yeah, he lives. So does that goofy ass robot of his, "Leebo" I think it was? Yeah. They fly around in hyperspace at the end of the game saying...things to each other that I don't quite recall.
hullo CapN ! welcome to the EU forum...... sid you play SOTE on n64 or did you have the pc version ??

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64. That was a good game for its day.


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Yeah. They fly around in hyperspace at the end of the game saying...things to each other that I don't quite recall.
Dash: Leebo... I have to make a confession
Leebo: What is it Dash? You can tell me anything you know
Dash: Leebo ... I... I... I think I love you
Leebo: I'm sorry Dash, I don't think I'm equipt to service you in those facilities....


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Old 12-04-2004, 06:31 AM   #21
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I listened to an interview with SOTE author Steve Perry at StarwarsEnDirect t'other day.... he mentioned that book and game endings were planned from the outset, with the game revealing Dash's survival. According to him, Dash did make a quick apperance in the SOTE Evolution comics, which actually focussed on Guri IIRC....

I still think though, Dash made some type of appearance or mention in the NJO series... Keralys might know, or even shok...

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Some people think he made an appearance, but it is not for sure. Apparantly, a person was described in a scene and people think it was a cameo of Dash, but they never said who it was (in the story or otherwise). I didn't notice when I was reading it, but I read something about that somewhere recently. I'll try to find it.
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Some people think he made an appearance, but it is not for sure. Apparantly, a person was described in a scene and people think it was a cameo of Dash, but they never said who it was (in the story or otherwise). I didn't notice when I was reading it, but I read something about that somewhere recently. I'll try to find it.
yes, just like the fett cameo in TUF ! there, but not for long !

if no one here knows, I may venture down the dark path to my old haunt at TFN, where Ive been EU forumming since 1999

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This is all I have ever seen about it, from the TFN Books FAQ Page:

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I know I'm probably alone on this one - but is Dash Rendar ever gonna be featured in anything other than Shadows of the Empire and his brief appearances in the sequel and Rebel Dawn?

I assure you, you are not alone in your desire to see more from Dash. Unfortunately, no one at LucasBooks seems to feel that way. Some people believe he had an offhand cameo in the NJO, consisting of something along the lines of "a main with reddish-grey hair was standing in the distance", but unlike Bollux's similar appearance, no one official will say that it was definitely Dash. He did have a role in The Doomsday Ship, part of the Galaxy of Fear children's book series, though whether or not it's worth reading is debatable. And by the way - are you sure he was in Rebel Dawn? It's been a while, but I don't seem to remember him being in there anywhere.
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he was indeed in shadows of the empire: evolution, which happened some time after ROTJ. guri bumped into him at a bar at the end of the story. so yeah, he did survive...

and the mission in x-wing alliance where dash helps secure the superfreighter over kothlis or bothawui actually occurs during SOTE, not after it. which is an interesting point to note, actually... weren't all the pilots supposed to have been bothans? how did ace azzameen and other human pilots off the liberty/defiance get to fly with luke then?

still a fun mission, though. =D



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...good thing you guys didn't get around to actually doing that. =p
benT, welcome back as for the honey dip and auction, dont think we've forgotten, that damn thing is still going. If I ever become a mod here (**) i'll close that thing before you could even say JAWA

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*waiting for BenT to say JAWA*





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*waiting for BenT to say JAWA*

does that mean im gonna a mod here, you of all ppl Jan know I have the EU skillz to pay the billz

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No, it means, he'll say JAWA before you get to close this thing down.

What that means is not that you don't have a chance, it's not even up to me, but that he has had several days to say JAWA already.




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No, it means, he'll say JAWA before you get to close this thing down.

What that means is not that you don't have a chance, it's not even up to me, but that he has had several days to say JAWA already.
Bah ! does it mean I'm gonna have to sleep with someone....coz Im not doing that again

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Cant you get it at lucas arts? Anyway jedispy is working on a SOTE mod for JA.

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That wuold be nice as much as I loved the SOTE, I hated the weapons. It allways feels like they slapped those together at last minute.
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Yah what part of Minnesota you from?
c'mon TK....and Sam.... I know its cool to come across ppl form your home state/city/country, but unless you want to add something about Dash Rendar and SOTE, you should pm each other

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JAWA!

...and i'm still not covered in honey! nor are you a mod! haha, got you there astrotoy....

Yeah, SOTE was a great game. In fact, it was the game that got me interested in star wars in the first place. I'm not sure if Lucasarts still distributes it to stores-- you can probably check out their website to see if they do. I think i remember seeing a few sold under the Electronic Arts name (new packaging, different cover). You might be able to have it shipped to you from the lucasarts store, or even other online stores like amazon.com.


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dash rendar

i was just looking through some of my star wars novels and thought about the shadows of the empire and wondering if any one else but me thought that dash rendar should be included in more EU books. Then I saw this forum and decided to make a post.

so is there anyone else but me that thinks Dash Rendar should be in more EU books. spoilers for those who haven't read shadows of the empire or played the game and beat it on hardest difficulty

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i know that he "died" at the end of the book, but correct me if i'm wrong wasn't the game and comics as official as the book? so the secret ending of him surviving and him appearing in the shadow of the empire comics seem to me enough confirmation that he is still alive and kicking during the NJO books.


he is my favorite EU character and top 5 character from the star wars universe. just thought he'd be a cool character to bring back every now and again because unlike lando and han (yep i see differences between him and han) he seems a little more seedier and scummier. maybe not by much, but in my opinion he will do more illegal and dirtier things than either of them because he never had that gotta look out for somebody other than me moment that han and lando have gone through.

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Hey, that would be a good idea to bring him back. He is not my fav. char. but i remember when i was playing ''StarWars Shadows of the Emprie'' i enjoyed ''Jumping'' around killing and passing to the next level.


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Firstly, Card and eastcoat... welcome to the EU forum ! There was an older thread about Dash a while back, ive resurrected it and merged it with this one...

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