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Old 04-07-2005, 06:58 PM   #81
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Vlad I'll read your emotions.


Hm...
You were born in Bulgaria to a family who disliked you and were always thinking and imagining things that were unrealistic and pepole thought served no purpose. You had a few friends but people grew to dislike you because you would never go any where or do anything. When you first saw Star Wars you thought "Hey that Force is real, I think I have it!" So you locked yourself in your room trying to lift things with your mind but failed miserably.
You are a teenager and a little while ago you "discovered" empathy and try to read people's emotions and sometimes you do, but mostly you don't.


Also this "empathy" is a process of deduction. A man who was terrorizing New York a few years back with bomb threats was finally caught after a few years of searching. And a person guessed exactley what he was wearing and what he looked like through studying his handwriting and other things.


And the "Empathy" I used is just deduction, if any of the info is write I guessed.



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Old 04-07-2005, 07:18 PM   #82
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But what is being discussed here has nothing to do with gaining a greater understanding of how the universe works.
I never said that it was, I was just replying to this:

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Attempting to read peoples minds sucesfulyl with empathy does not make you a jedi, you still don't have a ligthsaber, can't use telekenisis, can't run uber fast, so even if you COULD read peoples minds, that does NOT make you a Jedi.
Let me just explain again, what my opinion is on this, again. What is being described as 'evidence', I believe to be merely perception and deduction. As far as the force being possible, my spiritual beliefs have some similarity to it, but I'm not going to get into all that. As far as being a 'Jedi', I dont think 'the force' or 'magical powers' or any of that is necessary. It's about an ideal, and following that ideal. In the movies, 'force sensitives' were selected as Jedi, because they were most capable when it comes to putting these ideals to good use. I think avoiding fear, anger, and hatred; as well as promoting knowledge, compassion, and justice are honorable goals, and attainable by anyone.
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I think avoiding fear, anger, and hatred; as well as promoting knowledge, compassion, and justice are honorable goals, and attainable by anyone.
Yeah but it ain't as cool without a lightsaber...


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Old 04-07-2005, 08:14 PM   #85
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I never said that it was
I know you weren't. I was just using that statement to make my point.

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You are right Prime. It seems like that I am seriously an arogant being that just wants to complete it's fantasy, I have called names and I apologise to ALL, there is no such thing as the Force, no one can be a Jedi, I am just an idiot who dosen't care about anyone .
If you did not care about anyone, you would have no sense of empathy. Although I disagree with your opinion about the force, I think you are overreacting.

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Yet I just insulted everyone. I am sorry for existing, because all I can do is destroy everything and insult everyone, I should be ashamed.:
You have not insulted anyone. I think we all overreacted a bit. if all you were capable of doing is destroying and insulting, you would have no desire to be a Jedi.

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To prove that I am serious, I will unsubscribe from this Forum.
There is no need to do that just because some people disagreed with you. It's always good for there to be new members at LucasForums. (Provided that they have correct spelling, punctuation, and grammer. (Just kidding. ) )

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I won't ruin anyone's life ever again.
You have not ruined my life, or anyone else's. Why is it you think that?

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But the worst thing here, at this point is that I (deep inside myself) wish that I am right, but I try to deal with it, that I am wrong, I have always been wrong, and I always will be wrong, maybe it's because I watched too many movies. It looks like that I will never get used to it that I will always be wrong, and that I am a DISGUSTING,DESPERATE creature.
You are overreacting once again. I fail to see how you'll always be wrong just because you were once. At some point in their lives, people tend to believe something ridiculous. (For instance, I once believed in god and Santa Claus.)

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you were one of the greatest people that I have ever met.
I wouldn't go that far.

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because that is where I ruined everyone's life.
You did nothing of the sort.


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Old 04-07-2005, 11:13 PM   #87
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Thanks for the info Mandalore, Oh and by the way is your thread 'If KOTOR was real...' thread still active?
Hey, your welcome.

And I believe my thread was still active the last time I checked.

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Old 04-08-2005, 08:40 AM   #88
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Hello, People

I am sorry for not fullfiling by promise, but I return to this Forum, and I SWEAR I will never insult anyone just because they have a different opinion than mine, and I will do all that is nececeary to fullfil this one.

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You were born in Bulgaria to a family who disliked you and were always thinking and imagining things that were unrealistic and pepole thought served no purpose.
Well, I'm not from Bulgaria because my people and the Bulgarians have a ......Trobuled history (WW1), my parents didin't dislike me but it is true that they always wanted to view everything from a realistic perspective.

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You had a few friends but people grew to dislike you because you would never go any where or do anything.
Correct.

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When you first saw Star Wars you thought "Hey that Force is real, I think I have it!" So you locked yourself in your room trying to lift things with your mind but failed miserably.
You guessed it.

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You are a teenager and a little while ago you "discovered" empathy and try to read people's emotions and sometimes you do, but mostly you don't.
I try as much as possible to use empathy but the rest is true.

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As far as being a 'Jedi', I dont think 'the force' or 'magical powers' or any of that is necessary. It's about an ideal, and following that ideal.
Now what you are talking about is not being a Jedi, it is philosofy and ethics, and I think too that following an ideal and goal is what life is all about.

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In the movies, 'force sensitives' were selected as Jedi, because they were most capable when it comes to putting these ideals to good use.
I don't judge people by their capabilities, I judge them by emotions, ethics and moral.

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You started this thread on April Fools Day (america). I hope this wasn't a joke.
It's not a joke, this is serious.

This time I will gather scientific evidence, anyone else who believes in this can gather too. If I can't find some information I will study something to determine something, same thing for the rest.

Oh, by the way the lightsaber thing........

I accidentaly came across a web page where there are instructions on how to BUILD one. But I can't say.... It's too dangerous.
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I have found several scientific evedences that cofirm everything what we claimed on thie forum:


Empathy
Telekenesis
Ethics

It looks like that we can finally be Heros? Eh?
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:33 AM   #90
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I'm happy you didn't leave lucasforums, and you shouldn't be sorry for existing....anyway!
This thread is still active, so i guess..
Well, let's just say that..
The "force" is a word..
And a human can only use (crap, i've forgot how many) percent of their brain, but humans are still evolving, and animals have all this kind of stuff.
How else would birds navigate and always fly correctly?
How do they know whos the leader?
How can they know when something bad is gonna happen?
I tell you, all of our senses are gone, because of all the stress in a humans life.
But it's still there, but hard to find.
And, well..
Personally, i think "The force" is a great word for it, so even if it's no force, just natural senses.
You can't make stuff levitate (probably) and you can't shoot lightning stuff.
But this is still special, and i believe in it.
And, what i would call it is the force.
Even though we can probably do this,
I guess we can't become jedis.
Not jedis, not heroes.
We can be humans.

Ps: This was my longest post ever.
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I am sorry piece of metal, but you sound like a pesimist. It's not that bad, read my last posts and visit the webpages I posted.

P.S. To chear you up 6 hours after this post, if everyone agrees, i'll post the instructions on how to build a lightsaber, and everyone can be a Jedi (it's just a matter of choise). Now the lightning thing doesn't exist but there is empathy and telekenesis that is the Force in a certain way (if you're interested read my last post).

NOTE: I found several other phenomenons like clayvorant dreams and telepathy but that is just to much (I know the webpages for those).
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I'm glad that you didn´t leave :P
If i should have enough time and the motivation i will read the websites you posted
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I have found several scientific evedences that cofirm everything what we claimed on thie forum:

Empathy
You are going to have to read that article again, as you've completely missed what they are talking about. The empathy they are refering to is not dealing with telepahy.

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Telekenesis
I think that you will have to go somewhere else than Ellie Crystal homepage for scientific knowledge...

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Ethics
??

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It looks like that we can finally be Heros? Eh?
Heroes without any form of supernatural powers...

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You are going to have to read that article again, as you've completely missed what they are talking about. The empathy they are refering to is not dealing with telepahy.
Mmmmm, posted the wrong web page, I think.

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I think that you will have to go somewhere else than Ellie Crystal homepage for scientific knowledge...
What's wrong?

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You're gonna need it to be a Jedi.

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Heroes without any form of supernatural powers...
The things we're talking about aren't super powers they are sort of hidden abilities.

I'll try to look for more evidence.....
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Oh, yes, I nearly forgot... Should I post the web-page containing the instructions on how to build a lightsaber?
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Hhhmmmhmhm......
This is interesting...

More Empathy
More Telekenesis

If these aren't enough, please don't be mad, I'm trying my best....
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What's wrong?
There is nothing scientific about what you've posted. Start with this, and see how it applies. Once again, a person saying that something exists is not proof.

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More Empathy
More Telekenesis
The Empathy link is talking about the same thing as your previous empathy link. Once again it is not talking about telepathy. The second link is more of the same as the crystalinks page, and actually links to that. There is no scientific evidence on this site either.

But I applaud your efforts to provide evidence to back up your claims.

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First of all, I am not just saying. Secondly I tried to gather evidence.

But since I can't find evidence, the reason may be that it hasn't been discovered or worked on yet! So I might as well start working and gathering scientific evidence, if I wish to become not just an Astronomer, Biologist, Phsycologist and Philosofer but also a Jedi.

P.S. About the lightsaber... I ask the Moderator team to post the instructions for lightsaber buliding. If the permission is given, then please I thet ask one of the Moderators send the permission to this thread. I will then post the web-page.

(Where is everyone?)
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First of all, I am not just saying. Secondly I tried to gather evidence.

But since I can't find evidence, the reason may be that it hasn't been discovered or worked on yet! So I might as well start working and gathering scientific evidence, if I wish to become not just an Astronomer, Biologist, Phsycologist and Philosofer but also a Jedi.

P.S. About the lightsaber... I ask the Moderator team to post the instructions for lightsaber buliding. If the permission is given, then please I thet ask one of the Moderators send the permission to this thread. I will then post the web-page.

(Where is everyone?)

...and empathy is not telepathy, and I was not talking about telepathy.
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All right, here's a idea I came up with about this thread:

Whoever wants to take part in this, and disucss this, should make theories about this, study this and gather evidence about this. Maybe when we all show our discoveries, theories and evidence we could confirm wheter can everyone become a Jedi.

What do you say?

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You shoudn't bump,

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my post is probaly spam also


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my post is probaly spam also
No it's not, correcting someone cannot be a spam, can it?

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I am sorry piece of metal, but you sound like a pesimist.
I did that on purpose...I hope.
Anyway, i wanna be a part of this stuff!
I tried your telekinesis link, printed out all eleven pages about it and read all of it.
I'm still trying to make the needle-match-thingy move.

...*reads everything again*
Hmm...Can take 6 weeks to 6 months of training...
Gotta get going!
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Sorry for not posting a day or two, I was at my grandmother's.

Anyway, to make things easier for everyone here's my theory:

EMPATHY:

Empathy is the ability that all people have and it is most commonly expresed (ex. When your friend lost a job, he/she is sad, because he/she cannot feed his/her children, and then you start feeling sad because you understand him/her and you wish to help him/her) which can be only explained through phsycology, and the way I understood the things that were mentioned in the texts it seems like that the three most important things that make emapthy are: COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING and LISTENING.

PROOF:

http://www.empathy-and-listening-skills.info/

TELEKENESIS:

Telekenesis is the ability to move objects with the power of you minds. This ablitiy in praticular can be explained thruogh Biology, Physics and Physics. Because from the texts I have read, it seems like that telekenesis happens because of the Brainwaves in the mind which are Bio-electrical and emit a electro-magnetic field (LINKS: Biology
Physics
Phsycology )
So as far as I can see this isn't such a dumb thing afterall (after reading these texts). So the only thing remains: How to control and improve the electromagnetic waves in your brain (since electro-magnetism is like gravity: exists everywhere between everything), this thing should be ONLY valued if my previous TELEKENESIS link doesn't work.

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Hmm...Can take 6 weeks to 6 months of training...
I think that six weeks are taken to learn how to focus on other objects (SINGULAR only!) and movve them. And six months for the entire brain electro-magnetic field.
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that stuff you posted may be true but in my personal opiniopn you are taking this a bit too far. Don't let my opinion stop you though.


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o something i forgot: having to do with if the force is real and stuff: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.


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I found a book in my basement about psi-abilities and such.
Reading it now...
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o something i forgot: having to do with if the force is real and stuff: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.
...but since blasters don't exist, i bet telekinetic electro magnetic energy wave stuff can beat that!
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Then what about a shotgun?


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Shotguns are lame.

Desert Eagles FOREVER!!!


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Pff...modern weapons.

The only ones I like is the AK-47 and Desert Eagle. One because it's cheap and easy to take care of and the other is cool.

But anyway, Tommygun>everything


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Nukes are lame. Only cowards who don't want to face their enemies in combat would use them


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But anyway, Tommygun>everything
I'll have to disagree... though the .45 Thompson is cool...

5.56mm/7.62mm Mini-Gun > Everything!

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5.56mm/7.62mm Mini-Gun > Everything!

"Time to let ol' Painless out of the bag!" - Predator I
I remember reading an article about it that said that the mini-gun could not be portable like that and after a few rounds the user would find himself trown back or killed by the recoil


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Old 04-11-2005, 07:44 AM   #118
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UUUUMMmmmuumu......

People, we were disucssing our hidden abilities, but OK , anyway it's true that electro magnetic brain wave is powerful (the web pages I supplied might do the trick to start controling your electro magnetic brain energy field), but Kalashnikov RULES!

And read this paragraph carefully... About the Lightsaber...

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I feel naked without mine :-P
*Vlada turns his head lef and right to see if anyone is listening *

I know a web page where there are instructions on how to build a Lightsaber! (SERIOUSLY!) Does anyone want me to post the web page?

WARNING:

This thing may be FULLY FUNCTIONAL and UTERLY DANGEROUS!
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:40 AM   #119
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OK post the website, the best thing about being a Jedi is the lightsaber isn't it. About the thing being dangerous, well don't look into the saber.

BTW it is possible to make a blaster, it just requires a battery so large you can't carry it.
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:23 AM   #120
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Or infinite power energy cell thingys

...But i'll use my psychokinetic skills to pull the blaster outta your hands...
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