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Old 07-30-2005, 09:16 PM   #121
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Now I'm pissed! Tonight on Cartoon Network, Justice League Unlimited was preempted by the end of the Yu-Gi-Oh movie! That's just wrong on so many levels!
Well that sucks... crap, means my dvr is gonna have Yu-Gi-Blows on it

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Old 07-30-2005, 09:22 PM   #122
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Well that sucks... crap, means my dvr is gonna have Yu-Gi-Blows on it
Great nickname for it! My favorite thing to call another show is Draggin' BallZ. LOL

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Old 07-30-2005, 09:37 PM   #123
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ie it's crap

To be honest, DBZ was among the first anime I liked but when I started watching "real" anime, DBZ turned out to be pretty abysmal.
Honestly, Id rather watch Power Puff Girls... Mojo Jojo cracked me up when the series first started, it would take him forever to get thgrough one sentence lol. They are making an anime version of PPG over in Japan, but I forget what its called... it does end in Z though (so I think they are equating it with dbZ). O_o

I dont think any true raving anime fan considers DBZ an "actual" anime... its more like those series or movies where you take the general idea of the show and see how ridiculous and absurd you can get and still be relatively popular. ^_^ Cases in point (and Im not equating them with DBZ): Excel Saga, Azumanga Daioh, FLCL - the last two still retain more realism though.

Yu-Gi-Blows... hehe... I like Draggin' Balls Z too lol
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:29 PM   #124
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I'm sorry for interupting the discussion, but this does have to do with anime. Can somebody tell me which anime this avatar is from? It looks neat but i would rather find out where its from before using it.


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Old 07-30-2005, 10:33 PM   #125
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All I get is "support unicef"
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:35 PM   #126
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OK, go here and its in the top row, 2nd from the left (red clothes and hat).


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:11 PM   #127
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Thats either Hellsing, or one of the Vampire Hunter D animes... but it looks more like Hellsing to me. ^_^
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:17 PM   #128
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Thats either Hellsing, or one of the Vampire Hunter D animes... but it looks more like Hellsing to me. ^_^
Ahh. Thanks. I think I'm gonna use it, he looks pretty cool...


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:19 PM   #129
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Ive never watched the anime or read the manga... vampire stuff doesnt interest me a great deal. (I like some vampire movies though)
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:21 PM   #130
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Hmmmm, would Teen Titans count as anime? Even though I am past the "Y7" rating that All TV shows are required to show I still like it ^_^


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:26 PM   #131
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Thats either Hellsing, or one of the Vampire Hunter D animes... but it looks more like Hellsing to me. ^_^
Yup, it's Hellsing

The Teen Titans is anime-ish as they use alot of common elements and stylizations (especially in emotion expression). Though it wouldn't probably be 'classified' as such if you were to go shopping for it on DVD...

I personally would include it at least within the genre, but not to the level of some other, more traditional styles...


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:37 PM   #132
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They are making an anime version of PPG over in Japan, but I forget what its called... it does end in Z though (so I think they are equating it with dbZ). O_o

I'll be honest with everyone. I used to watch the Powerpuff Girls.
I think it's pure heresy the way they changed things for the "japanese version". Frankly, it looks like crap.

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Now I'm pissed! Tonight on Cartoon Network, Justice League Unlimited was preempted by the end of the Yu-Gi-Oh movie! That's just wrong on so many levels!
Other signs of heresy. We must purge the world of crappy anime. Justice League Unlimited rules.


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:37 PM   #133
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I think Teen Titans is made in Japan
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:42 PM   #134
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I think Teen Titans is made in Japan
According to imdb, Teen Titans is made in the USA.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343314/

Other western animation shows have taken a lot from anime lately. Off the top of my head, Totally Spies and Martin Mystery.
From a personnal point of view, I think such a rip-off benefits no-one.


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:43 PM   #135
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whats wrong with using an art style that works?
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #136
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I'll be honest with everyone. I used to watch the Powerpuff Girls.
Buttercup kicks ass

Though I did always question "Him's"...err... 'orientation'

you're not alone.. hehehe


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #137
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whats wrong with using an art style that works?
Nothing, but I'm not used to seeing "western anime" and I don't think western animation can use it properly.


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:50 PM   #138
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hehe I liked Him as well... Im sure its ambiguousness was intentional ^_^

Well so far, western anime hasnt been anything I liked a great deal, Teen Titans is ok, but Ive never been a huge fan of super hero cartoons.
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:54 PM   #139
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Speaking of anime and PPG, heres a pic I photoshopped a bit ago. heh
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:00 AM   #140
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I love all types of anime.


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Old 07-31-2005, 01:18 AM   #141
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I s'pose I like the animation style of anime but not the story styles, especially the ones that are a little hard to keep track with I do not like (e.g. Digimon, Pokemon, Yu-gi-oh etc.)


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Old 07-31-2005, 01:24 AM   #142
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Hmmmm, would Teen Titans count as anime? Even though I am past the "Y7" rating that All TV shows are required to show I still like it ^_^
I would certainly say that Teen Titans qualifies as Anime. I know I have a hard time bringing myself to sit through the remainder of the show while I wait on Justice League Unlimited to come on. Personally, I think Teen Titans suck.

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According to imdb, Teen Titans is made in the USA.
I don't think it matters. Besides, the end credits have quite a few Asian names in them, so I would imagine that there is a good bit of Japanese artists working on it even though it is produced in the USA.

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Old 07-31-2005, 01:52 AM   #143
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Well, we all have our different preferences
Can't always agree on certain things can we? =P


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Old 07-31-2005, 02:56 AM   #144
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Prime posted this a while back, but I think the thread was lost in the crash.

Ninjai

I'm not sure if it's anime, but its fragging cool.

EDIT: In fact, watching it again made me change my avatar.



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Old 07-31-2005, 10:57 PM   #145
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Well, there was pokemon.. man that was awesome... im joking.

Nah, but Im a huge fan of Escaflowne. It inspired me to start drawing. Its also an inspiration for a 3D project I am starting. I loved the series on Fox, but I hate how Fox ruined the episodes, cutting them up, removing all the cool stuff. Oh well. I've never seen the uncut version, nor an episode after number 9 (which really wasn't episode 9 because Fox cut up episodes, mixed them up and just screwed everything up!) They didn't even air the first epsiode (what the?) And I can't stand how terrot cards got mixed in with the episodes. At least hitomi doesn't use them in the movie.

Anyways, about three weeks ago I found the movie on Amazon and bought. Well worth $20. Brand new also.. couldn't believe it. The movie was amazing. They animated the characters so much better than in the cartoon. Look at my sig and avatar. My only two gripes for the movie was how they gave Folken long hair, and how Van didn't kick his butt. I mean, he was brutal with Dilandou.... I cringed.. seriously. The characters in the movie are totally different than in the series (I mean, they are the same characters, they just have different personalities)

Anyways, enough about that, as you can see, I completley enjoyed the movie, and when I get some money I am going to buy the series. Really though, Escaflowne is one awesome anime, and worth a try.

Heres a site I found with some video clips from the episode (these are in English, some sites have japanese) http://myanimeclips.50megs.com/escaflowne-zip.htm

I would recommend the Van and Alan Spar clip, and the Van saves hitomi clip. They are probably the best. Oh.. and the movie trailer. BTW, this site has other anime clips.

They are zipped, low quality, and require a special audio codec which is really easy to find. Windows Media Player will tell you to check online for the codec, then just follow the links.. you'll find it


As for the anime/cartoons being for kids:

In Japan they treat this stuff with a higher "respect" fully grown adults watch cartoons, anime, and play video games. Where as western culture has made this stuff out to be for kids. Mom keeps saying to me "Aren't you too old for video games and cartoons?" lol.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:09 AM   #146
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As for the anime/cartoons being for kids:

In Japan they treat this stuff with a higher "respect" fully grown adults watch cartoons, anime, and play video games. Where as western culture has made this stuff out to be for kids. Mom keeps saying to me "Aren't you too old for video games and cartoons?" lol.
I know I haven't outgrown either, and I am in my mid-30s! So more power to ya! But, as I stated before, the only anime that was ever worth its weight in gold was Starblazers (aka. Battleship Yamato) and that was 25 years ago. After that, anime just wasn't interesting anymore.

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is this about the anime art style or cartoons or both?


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is this about the anime art style or cartoons or both?
Take your pick! One moves, the other doesn't.

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Ok well i dont watch anime they are pretty funny but i dont.
anyhow do we have any anime artists here im not very good at it but im a good for comic book art warcraft art (not only warcraft but i say warcraft becaus they have a comic crossed with cartoon style).

so... any types on drawing anime?


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Ok well i dont watch anime they are pretty funny but i dont.
anyhow do we have any anime artists here im not very good at it but im a good for comic book art warcraft art (not only warcraft but i say warcraft becaus they have a comic crossed with cartoon style).

so... any types on drawing anime?
I say, "Abandon styles that are not your own!" That is the only way you will ever get anywhere with art. If you are content to be contained within the envelope (like 1st class mail) instead of pushing the envelope (like Priority or Express Mail), you will be thrown in with millions of other letters. If you keep "crossing styles," eventually you will come up with your own.

As for drawing anime, sure, I have done it if only to prove to my students that even someone without a love for the genre can draw it without thought.

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Yeah Tokyopop has a manga of Warcraft out, I thought that was an interesting thing. heh. I can sorta do anime-art, but Im not very good at it. Im better at more realistic art.
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Old 08-01-2005, 01:28 PM   #152
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I didn't know ppg was anime I thought it was just cartoons



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ok i guess ill start drawing anime without the freaky doos


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@jedigoku: Thanks. I didnt draw it... I have more from the same artist, but Im sure some people on here wouldnt like them.
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I'd list all the anime I've seen, but that'd take more time than I care to spend.

PS: the teen titans cartoon is a horrible bastardization of the comics. Such a horrible waste of animation.


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um the name is....?



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the teen titans cartoon is a horrible bastardization of the comics. Such a horrible waste of animation.
I completely agree! I kinda liked the New Teen Titans that were out in the early 80s DC comics, but this new cartoon series is horrible.

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