lfnetwork.com mark read register faq members calendar

Thread: Developer for KOTOR 3
Thread Tools Display Modes
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Old 07-27-2005, 11:57 PM   #1
THE VIGILANTE
Rookie
 
THE VIGILANTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 118
Question Developer for KOTOR 3

Assuming of course that KotOR 3 will be made, who should be the developer?

I personally feel that they should bring back BioWare to do the job.

What do you guys think?
THE VIGILANTE is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:22 AM   #2
Jeff
Rating: Awesome
 
Jeff's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 8,431
Current Game: SWTOR
Imperialist Meatbags Guild Officer The Walking Carpets Guild Officer Notable contributor LFN Staff Member 
I want Bioware to do it.

I think that maybe a developer like Ubisoft might do it. Though, assuming since Obsidian was old Black Isle People that Black Isle doesn't exist anymore, Obsidian wouldn't be too bad. Though its pretty sure they won't.


Follow me on Twitter
Follow StarWarsMMO.net on Twitter | Like us on Facebook
Jeff is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:29 AM   #3
Emperor Devon
36 Wings, 365 Eyes
 
Emperor Devon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,479
Current Game: Ass Effect
Contest winner - Fan Fiction 
Hmm... KOTOR 1 had a much more epic feel, but Obsidian introduced some pretty cool new stuff... Maybe they should work together.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabretooth
We will be great failures one day, you and I
Emperor Devon is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:41 AM   #4
THE VIGILANTE
Rookie
 
THE VIGILANTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 118
Hmmm...

I think if both worked together, it would be the best.

BioWare started the whole series and they should definitely have some part, however big or small, in the end.
Obsidian continued the story and brought more features and items into the story. They too, should have some part in the end.

Also, BioWare lacks Features but has the abilty to tell stories. Obsidian lacks the ability to tell stories, but has more features.
Each company has a trait that the other lacks. So it would be fitting if they worked to together.

Just my thoughts.
THE VIGILANTE is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:42 AM   #5
Achilles
Dapper Chimp
 
Achilles's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 8,204
Helpful! Veteran Modder Forum Veteran 
I think Obsidian should do K3. Considering the position they were in, they made a hell of a game in record time. Was it the game that they wanted to make? No. But it was a great game nonetheless.
Achilles is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:50 AM   #6
stingerhs
Follow the Wolves
 
stingerhs's Avatar
 
Status: Moderator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: between my ears
Posts: 4,641
Current Game: Dead Space
Forum Veteran Roleplayer LFN Staff Member Helpful! 
^^^^
agreed.

and i still say that the TSL storyline would have been nailed on the head if OE hadn't cut out a lot of content. even then, you have to give them kudos for churning out such an excellent game.

OE gets my vote, but they need to get the rights to a current-gen graphics engine (or make their own). i'll be very dissappointed to see the Oddessy engine being used again for Kotor 3.


See the struggle of the faithless lot as they negate their time
How low to sink to the depths of their frame of mind

stingerhs is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 01:22 AM   #7
MdKnightR
Senior Member
 
MdKnightR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Feeling Hosed By Your Governme
Posts: 1,859
My vote is for them to work together...and put more music from the 1st game into the 3rd.

MdKnightR is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 02:07 AM   #8
Smilodon
Rookie
 
Smilodon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central Europe
Posts: 239
I would also welcome a coop between Bioware and Obsidian. They all had good ideas regarding gameplay features, and a storyline would also be np for them if you look at KOTOR and TSL. The only thing that might worry me is the propably new game engine and keeping of the original KOTOR flair from part I and II.
Smilodon is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 03:49 AM   #9
RedHawke
Shadow Lord Of The Sith™
 
RedHawke's Avatar
 
Status: Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stormreach CA.
Posts: 9,184
Current Game: DDO, Stormreach
I'm with the group that thinks Obsidian should do it... For the reasons Achilles gave above.


"Beware the form-fitting black armor-clad Drow hottie with twin Mineral II Greensteel Khopeshes!"
"Liella d'Orien says, '"You're the fool, Devil. -- Witness the power of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Titan!"'"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RedHawke is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 06:23 AM   #10
Bastila
Forumite
 
Bastila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In Revans arms
Posts: 749
Easy answere BioWare, after playing Jade Empire it still shows they are still great i chose them.


Bastila is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 08:04 AM   #11
RevanA4
Desu~
 
RevanA4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In Bastila's arms
Posts: 2,431
Hot Topic Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Bastila
Easy answere BioWare, after playing Jade Empire it still shows they are still great i chose them.
my thoughts exactly



Saber is so cute ^__^ | Get Firefox! | call me Revan for short plz
check out this awsome fic by Fuu
What browser do you use. click and vote. you can also discuss browsers here

Formerly known as Revan the great | Back from the dead
RevanA4 is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 08:42 AM   #12
Bob Lion54
Jr. Malkavian Detective
 
Bob Lion54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the case! Both my minds!
Posts: 2,103
Forum Veteran Helpful! 
Since it's unlikely they will both work on it, eaither would be fine.

Both company's are more than capable, provided they have the time.


Bob Lion54 is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 08:50 AM   #13
THE VIGILANTE
Rookie
 
THE VIGILANTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 118
^^^^

What makes you say that they won't do it?

I can understand Obsidian refusing to work on it, but BioWare?
I always thought that BioWare enjoyed making KOTOR type games (i.e. KotOR 1, Jade Empire).
THE VIGILANTE is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 09:02 AM   #14
Bob Lion54
Jr. Malkavian Detective
 
Bob Lion54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the case! Both my minds!
Posts: 2,103
Forum Veteran Helpful! 
^^^^^
Money.


LA isn't going to want to pay 2 developers.


Bob Lion54 is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 09:06 AM   #15
THE VIGILANTE
Rookie
 
THE VIGILANTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 118
^^^^

Oh yeah...

Money is starting to take the fun out of everything.

Oh well, I guess that BioWare could do it alone...
THE VIGILANTE is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 10:13 AM   #16
Soogz
Forumite
 
Soogz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 506
Current Game: Fifa 09
Yes, I want bioware to develop it. I want it to be almost like K1, concept speaking.


Soogz is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 10:23 AM   #17
Hannibal
Senior Member
 
Hannibal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Indoors
Posts: 3,225
Current Game: Black Ops/Biosock
LFN Staff Member 
I'm with the Bioware folks. Jade Empire is my KOTOR2.
I like the fact that Bioware looks to improve upon the previous work they've done. KOTOR2 should have been done on the Jade Empire engine. So I say Bioware should do KOTOR3 on that engine.

NWN made me a fan of Bioware but KOTOR cemented it. JE made me get down on one knee and propose.

If your wondering Bioware will not marry me.

Hannibal is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 11:29 AM   #18
Bastila
Forumite
 
Bastila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In Revans arms
Posts: 749
Even tho i said BioWear i still think Obsidian did well, only thing wrong was ( a lot lol) i just think they should have made the story carrying on from Revan not the exile, even tho i did like the exile story, also they should have finished the game as well.

So which on out of them to gets it i don't mind but still i'd rather BioWear.


Bastila is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 11:34 AM   #19
MdKnightR
Senior Member
 
MdKnightR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Feeling Hosed By Your Governme
Posts: 1,859
Okay, I admit, I am ignorant when it comes to video games other than KOTOR, Vice City, and SimCity. What is Jade Empire?

MdKnightR is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 11:37 AM   #20
Bastila
Forumite
 
Bastila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In Revans arms
Posts: 749
Quote:
Originally posted by MdKnightR
Okay, I admit, I am ignorant when it comes to video games other than KOTOR, Vice City, and SimCity. What is Jade Empire?
Jade Empire is made by Biowear it's great i've played it 3 times ( 3 endings) it's like KOTOR but easy i think but very good story hears the site i'd get it if you like KOTOR http://jade.bioware.com/


Bastila is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 11:45 AM   #21
Darth InSidious
A handful of dust.
 
Darth InSidious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Eleven-Day Empire
Posts: 5,776
Current Game: KotOR II
I'd LOVE a BioWare/Obsidian game. But it won't happen. BioWare is no longer collaborating with other companies (I'm pretty sure they made a statement to this effect), and Obsidian - well, after the disastrous way LA fiddled with TSL, I doubt they'll harbour any love for them....Failing the collaboration, a BioWare made KotOR III would be best. I'll pick strong storyline over neat features any day



Works-In-Progress
~
Mods Released
~
Quid existis in desertum videre?
Darth InSidious is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:07 PM   #22
MdKnightR
Senior Member
 
MdKnightR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Feeling Hosed By Your Governme
Posts: 1,859
Quote:
Originally posted by Bastila
Jade Empire is made by Biowear it's great i've played it 3 times ( 3 endings) it's like KOTOR but easy i think but very good story hears the site i'd get it if you like KOTOR http://jade.bioware.com/
Thanks for the information, but curse you for showing me an incredible game that is only available on Xbox! Darn it!

Of course, when someone said Jade Empire, I was, of course, thinking of the Galactic Empire. That got me hoping that it was a new Star Wars game by Bioware. So much for wishful thinking, huh?

MdKnightR is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:10 PM   #23
Bastila
Forumite
 
Bastila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In Revans arms
Posts: 749
Quote:
Originally posted by MdKnightR
Thanks for the information, but curse you for showing me an incredible game that is only available on Xbox! Darn it!

Of course, when someone said Jade Empire, I was, of course, thinking of the Galactic Empire. That got me hoping that it was a new Star Wars game by Bioware. So much for wishful thinking, huh?

KOTOR is on xbox and PC, so i take it you play it on PC then.


Bastila is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:20 PM   #24
THE VIGILANTE
Rookie
 
THE VIGILANTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Earth
Posts: 118
^^^^

That would be the only option left.


Anyways...

Are there any ideas as to who will design the game if (in an unlikely event) BioWare and Obsidian refuse?

Darth Moeller said Ubisoft would be a good choice (and I have to agree since they are the ones making the videogame to Peter Jackson's King Kong).

Just a thought - Would Pandemic Studios do the job? They made the Clone Wars game and they are making the Empire at War game, so maybe they can design this one too?
THE VIGILANTE is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:31 PM   #25
Jeff
Rating: Awesome
 
Jeff's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 8,431
Current Game: SWTOR
Imperialist Meatbags Guild Officer The Walking Carpets Guild Officer Notable contributor LFN Staff Member 
Quote:
Originally posted by THE VIGILANTE
Darth Moeller said Ubisoft would be a good choice (and I have to agree since they are the ones making the videogame to Peter Jackson's King Kong).
They also made the Myst games, the greatest adventure series of all time IMO.
Quote:
Originally posted by THE VIGILANTE
Just a thought - Would Pandemic Studios do the job? They made the Clone Wars game and they are making the Empire at War game, so maybe they can design this one too?
I would rather have a well-known developer, but depending on how Empire at War turns out, maybe a possibility. But it is not very likely they will develop another Star Wars game I would think.


Follow me on Twitter
Follow StarWarsMMO.net on Twitter | Like us on Facebook
Jeff is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 12:33 PM   #26
MdKnightR
Senior Member
 
MdKnightR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Feeling Hosed By Your Governme
Posts: 1,859
Quote:
Originally posted by Bastila
KOTOR is on xbox and PC, so i take it you play it on PC then.
Very observant, you are, yes!

MdKnightR is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 01:20 PM   #27
RevanA4
Desu~
 
RevanA4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In Bastila's arms
Posts: 2,431
Hot Topic Starter 
me says bioware (pokes fun at people)

err I mean

I say bioware should do it



Saber is so cute ^__^ | Get Firefox! | call me Revan for short plz
check out this awsome fic by Fuu
What browser do you use. click and vote. you can also discuss browsers here

Formerly known as Revan the great | Back from the dead
RevanA4 is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 03:45 PM   #28
Smilodon
Rookie
 
Smilodon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central Europe
Posts: 239
Err just a question: is there any Star Wars game that was not published by Lucas Arts?
Because some of you are talking about Ubisoft, just curious °_°
Smilodon is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 03:49 PM   #29
Hannibal
Senior Member
 
Hannibal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Indoors
Posts: 3,225
Current Game: Black Ops/Biosock
LFN Staff Member 
The Lego SW game wasn't published by Lucas Arts.


edit: Check this out over at the Swamp.

I hope it's true. This guy only has one post though.

Hannibal is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 03:51 PM   #30
Bob Lion54
Jr. Malkavian Detective
 
Bob Lion54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: On the case! Both my minds!
Posts: 2,103
Forum Veteran Helpful! 
^^^^^^

LucasArts hold the right to Star Wars as it's owned by George Lucas. Even if they dont work on the game, they put their name on it. I think they are the distributer, but I'm not sure.

All the other company do the majority of the work.

EDIT: Hannibal beat me too it, but I think I'm right for the most part. Didn't know that about Lego Star Wars.


Bob Lion54 is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 03:57 PM   #31
Smilodon
Rookie
 
Smilodon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central Europe
Posts: 239
Ah ic, thx for clearing up.

Considering the messed up QA of LA we all experienced, I would also wish to have another publisher, though it might be very unlikely ... 8[
Smilodon is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 04:10 PM   #32
Hannibal
Senior Member
 
Hannibal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Indoors
Posts: 3,225
Current Game: Black Ops/Biosock
LFN Staff Member 
I think Bioware is a strong enough company to develop the game and fend of LucasArts at the same time. As a game developer it's their reputation thats on the line.

Hannibal is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-28-2005, 04:14 PM   #33
Rok_stoned
Junior Member
 
Rok_stoned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Too close for comfort.
Posts: 402
Current Game: Life.
Quote:
Also, BioWare lacks Features but has the abilty to tell stories. Obsidian lacks the ability to tell stories, but has more features.
a good idea in theory but only one way to find out...

btw they need some people to do a new engine as "they" did before.


Rok_stoned is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 08:34 AM   #34
Darth InSidious
A handful of dust.
 
Darth InSidious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Eleven-Day Empire
Posts: 5,776
Current Game: KotOR II
In the (IMO very likely) event that Bioware and OE aren't asked, I think that they may well ask someone large and brand-name.

I think, however, a Bioware/OE combo would be good, since they seem to understand the gameplay best...



Works-In-Progress
~
Mods Released
~
Quid existis in desertum videre?
Darth InSidious is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 08:35 AM   #35
Bon Solar
Rookie
 
Bon Solar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London,England
Posts: 136
I think Bioware but just cut down the damn load times, boring..

If neither Bioware or Obsidian do it maybe R*? They have made GTA which is RPG like.



- - - - -
Lego Star Wars The Video Game (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic The Sith Lords (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox)
Star Wars Jedi Starfighter (PS2)
Star Wars Bounty Hunter (PS2)
Star Wars The Clone Wars (PS2)
Star Wars Dark Forces (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy (PC)
Star Wars (GB)
Bon Solar is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 10:58 AM   #36
stingerhs
Follow the Wolves
 
stingerhs's Avatar
 
Status: Moderator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: between my ears
Posts: 4,641
Current Game: Dead Space
Forum Veteran Roleplayer LFN Staff Member Helpful! 
well, if they were going to hand the game off to RockStar simply because San Andreas had a couple of RPG elements to it, you might as well go for a company that has put out more RPG's than anyone else: Square Enix. although, i will admit i'm not too keen about handing off a Star Wars game to those guys: things could end up getting really wierd. at least we would know for sure that they could make Kotor 3 a very good game.


See the struggle of the faithless lot as they negate their time
How low to sink to the depths of their frame of mind

stingerhs is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 11:00 AM   #37
General Kenobi
Guardian of The Force
 
General Kenobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Exile Waiting For Luke
Posts: 1,318
How about Raven Software? Maybe they could tackle KOTOR III The Ancient Empire Returns or whatever

They seem to put out quality games from what I've seen personally.


General Kenobi


MY SITE: Okinawa Outpost
Gilliam Forums
Ikanaru hito demo sonke suru koto
Yakusoku o yaburanai koto
Hito o on****su shinai koto
Hito ni tai****e omoiyari o motsu koto
General Kenobi is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 11:08 AM   #38
Bon Solar
Rookie
 
Bon Solar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London,England
Posts: 136
They have made some good games like Elite Force and stuff so yer Raven might be good.



- - - - -
Lego Star Wars The Video Game (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic The Sith Lords (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox)
Star Wars Jedi Starfighter (PS2)
Star Wars Bounty Hunter (PS2)
Star Wars The Clone Wars (PS2)
Star Wars Dark Forces (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy (PC)
Star Wars (GB)
Bon Solar is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 11:53 AM   #39
Darth InSidious
A handful of dust.
 
Darth InSidious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Eleven-Day Empire
Posts: 5,776
Current Game: KotOR II
On the other hand, they put out games like JA. It only just has a better plot than TSL, in that it has one, IMO.



Works-In-Progress
~
Mods Released
~
Quid existis in desertum videre?
Darth InSidious is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Old 07-29-2005, 12:20 PM   #40
Bon Solar
Rookie
 
Bon Solar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London,England
Posts: 136
Jedi Academy was alright, nothing special.



- - - - -
Lego Star Wars The Video Game (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic The Sith Lords (Xbox)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox)
Star Wars Jedi Starfighter (PS2)
Star Wars Bounty Hunter (PS2)
Star Wars The Clone Wars (PS2)
Star Wars Dark Forces (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2 (PC)
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy (PC)
Star Wars (GB)
Bon Solar is offline   you may: quote & reply,
Post a new thread. Add a reply to this thread. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Go Back   LucasForums > Network > Knights of the Old Republic > Game Discussion > The Unknown Regions > Developer for KOTOR 3

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:58 AM.

LFNetwork, LLC ©2002-2011 - All rights reserved.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.