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the Quake 3 engine was only 3/4 years old when JK2/JKA came out. Lots of games after JKA used it as well, it's not like it was some terrible engine they tricked you with, its a solid engine 
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the Quake 3 engine was only 3/4 years old when JK2/JKA came out. Lots of games after JKA used it as well, it's not like it was some terrible engine they tricked you with, its a solid engine 
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Lets hope they wont use the Quake 3 engine in the next game. Lets hope they use Doom 3 Engine as a base and add JK3 elements to that
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02-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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I'm not saying it's terrible, but using Quake 3 twice was Lucasarts' way of getting out of having to make an actual new game.
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What i want to see on Jedi Knight 4
Would love to see the return of Jaden but this time as a master with his own padwan but at the start you should be able to select to do the game from the jedi ending or the sith ending it would make the game so much cooler and more interesting. Also i belive there should be more control from the player over what happens to Jaden and his padwan.
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04-03-2008, 09:33 PM
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I would want Better Lightsabers so if it's in a wall it cuts the wall or if a person shoves their lightsaber thorugh you you die so if you kill someone with a lightsaber your body is cut off and not that crappy Drop to ground. Also First person lightsaber View That was ownage in JO.
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04-05-2008, 12:32 AM
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I'm not saying it's terrible, but using Quake 3 twice was Lucasarts' way of getting out of having to make an actual new game.
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Sure, but it was also the way to get you another game in just over one year instead of 5 years. Plus it was a much needed upgrade to the multiplayer. While I don't like what they did with sabers, movement is generally much better in jka, no sticky walls, better control over your player, handles high latency much better. Though their hit detection and hitboxes were steps in the wrong direction, it did make improvements.
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04-09-2008, 12:50 AM
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I'm more interested in getting more Kyle Katarn, or at least know that he and Jan finally married O_o, almost every other jedi has, and I think they deserve at least that little bit of happines (hey SW marriages seems to work hahaha).
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04-09-2008, 10:07 AM
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I'm more interested in getting more Kyle Katarn, or at least know that he and Jan finally married O_o, almost every other jedi has, and I think they deserve at least that little bit of happines (hey SW marriages seems to work hahaha).
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As of around 30ABY they hadn't. 
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04-10-2008, 03:15 PM
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No offense , But I don't think it will come out this new jedi academy games, It seemed to of dyed out...
I'm still waiting for KOTOR 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-10-2008, 11:30 PM
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Yep I know, but still I would like one, and not Academy, just plain Jedi Knight again with Kyle and Jan as main characters
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04-13-2008, 12:42 PM
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Heck, I'd be happy with just new levels, new story, & an expansion pack...even if it used the exact same software as J.A. & the Quake III engine. Come on Lucasarts, milk this thing, I'll still shell out a few bucks for expansion levels.
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What I would like to see in a JK4...
Sabers being realistic is a given, but in all the JK series games there is 1 common flaw that disappoints me in every release, they dumbed down the guns to be ineffective and most are very inaccurate thus giving the Jedi players an immense advantage. I mean "look here comes a blaster bolt let me step out of the way". Or being able to nearly outrun a rocket, and with force speed actually doing it? None of the Star Wars movies I ever saw had weapons so lame. In JK4 I would like to see weapons as deadly as they should be, and make us Jedi need to be skilled enough and smart enough to beat them.
So before someone says it because I know some are thinking it I will say this. Sure I like 50/50 gunning and saber dueling. And a lot of people think guns are cheap, but if you take a truly skilled force wielding Jedi player up against a Good Gunner even in mods with projectile speed set to a more realistic velocity the skilled Jedi will take the gunner the majority of the time. Some People say "if you like gunning then go play some other game", but I like pitting guns against Jedi and even the reverse or combo on Wild-Tuesdays, lol.
My point is, if Guns were more realistic (meaning according to the Star Wars Universe Reality) the game would be more rounded and appeal to a wider group.
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I sincerely hope they make a sequel of some sort of Jedi 1st/3rd Person game for PC because if not I guess I like many others I know will be left behind because I will not buy a console, I heard all the arguments for both sides but I like building my own machines, and modding games and if I swap to a console then there goes the major things about gaming that I love.
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04-17-2008, 08:54 PM
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>None of the Star Wars movies I ever saw had weapons so lame.
Hmmm, well, in the films, if you put several shooters up against 1 Jedi...the Jedi won. You'd need a whole bunch of shooters from varying directions to take out a Jedi. As for out-running bolts, yeah, that's bad, but dodging isn't...look how Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon ran sideways to dodge the droideka blasts at the beginning of Episode I.
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07-04-2008, 04:33 PM
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with how LucasArts seems to have changed, unless you're into Lego Star Wars and Lego Indiana Jones, don't expect to see anymore JK or KOTOR.
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07-05-2008, 04:31 AM
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RE: New Jedi Knight Game Rumors
I'd just hope a new "Jedi Knight" series game would go back to the series' roots and be a "Dark Forces" game instead.
Jedi are overdone, and they weren't even remotely interesting to begin with. The movies and games went downhill fast when they started with the hocus pocus horsecrap, and the EU books and comics are virtually unreadable because if you've read one, you've read them all. They're all about Jedi, and every Jedi is essentially a carbon copy of the last one. Not to mention all the characters are such sanctimonius prats.
A Dark Forces game with tactical shooter, and puzzle elements would be great. It's always much more rewarding to solve challenges the practical way instead of with some BS superpower which is essentially a "get out of 'playing the game' free" card.
Oh, and non-linearity. It's gotta have non-linearity. Linear levels are plain suck.
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Oh, and non-linearity. It's gotta have non-linearity. Linear levels are plain suck.
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07-05-2008, 06:44 PM
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I would be very appreciative ιf you explained what that actually means.
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07-06-2008, 05:40 AM
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Jedi/Sith might be a bit cliché mostly in the EU, but for video games they're still the best choice for a main character, since the majority of Star Wars fans are mad about lightsabers, aren't we? The only significant lightsaber-wielding non-Jedi/Sith types off the top of my head would be Aurra Sing and General Grievous. Thinking of it, that's it! We need a "Star Wars Bounty Hunter 2 - Aurra Sing" game, he he (but for PC this time!)
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The only significant lightsaber-wielding non-Jedi/Sith types off the top of my head would be Aurra Sing and General Grievous.
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Boba Fett. He fought Vader with a lightsaber. Alright, Vader handed his ass to him, but he still has lightsabers when he wants to use one.
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07-24-2008, 12:09 AM
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I would generally want more blaster combat then Lightsaber combat in the next JK game. If they do have one. Personally I would want Kyle's orange jacket and black gloves back. Giving him more of a mercenary sort of feel.
They could split off light saber combat a little. Like have a lot of gun wielders be exceptionally good in the case of a lightsaber. Meaning instead of rushing in with a lightsaber you would need to dodge blaster fire and use cover. As the case with dueling. You could have various complicated moves put in. Removing the Dark Forces style where you just needed to move around in circles. As well, keep light saber combat very difficult and only useful in dueling.
Also I would suggest to make the enemy sith very difficult. Reborns were extremely easy to kill. So naturally when I first faced Desann I suspected the same thing
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Also I would suggest to make the enemy sith very difficult. Reborns were extremely easy to kill. So naturally when I first faced Desann I suspected the same thing
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Did you ever beat Desann in a 'fair' fight? I couldn't stand how he had so many cheats that Katarn was not allowed, such as being ungripable, could never lose his grip on Katarn, disabling assault sentries without destroying them, perfect deflection of any mine, missile, or grenade, and limitless force energy.
Is Desann truly beatable? How difficult is it for you to beat him?... because I find it impossible without using the pillars to crush him.
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I can beat Desann without cheating, he's pretty easy, just use force speed then hack at him with the Blue stance and he dies fairly easy...
also I would like to see a choice between being a sith or a jedi, if there's a new Jedi Knight game, and I would also like to be able to aim down the sights of the guns I'm carrying, that's just a pet peeve of mine. Also I would like to be able to see some ragdoll physics implied in the game, and I'd recommend the engine that was used to make Medal of Honor:Airborne...
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Did you ever beat Desann in a 'fair' fight? I couldn't stand how he had so many cheats that Katarn was not allowed, such as being ungripable, could never lose his grip on Katarn, disabling assault sentries without destroying them, perfect deflection of any mine, missile, or grenade, and limitless force energy.
Is Desann truly beatable? How difficult is it for you to beat him?... because I find it impossible without using the pillars to crush him.
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Desann was harder to beat then Reborn but easy nontheless. It was possible because I played on Multiplayer for quite a while until I decided to finish the campaign. I just used red style and several dodging tricks that I know.
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I personally think kyle katarn should be the main character so you can play him.(Even though kyle is the main person of jedi)
I really did not like jaden korr or rosh.
But i personally think there are not making a new jk game because LC has a record of stop making sequels like what happend to tie fighter and SOTE.
But i hope it's not the case that there will no new jedi knights.
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I personally think kyle katarn should be the main character so you can play him.(Even though kyle is the main person of jedi)
I really did not like jaden korr or rosh.
But i personally think there are not making a new jk game because LC has a record of stop making sequels like what happend to tie fighter and SOTE.
But i hope it's not the case that there will no new jedi knights.
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Odds are that it won't happen. I think games like Force Unleashed will take on where JK left off. Although I'd like to see Katarn again, I wouldn't hold to hope.
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07-25-2008, 04:22 AM
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I personally think kyle katarn should be the main character so you can play him.(Even though kyle is the main person of jedi)
I really did not like jaden korr or rosh.
But i personally think there are not making a new jk game because LC has a record of stop making sequels like what happend to tie fighter and SOTE.
But i hope it's not the case that there will no new jedi knights.
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That would be hard, but not impossible. The main reason why they didn't have Kyle as the main character of Academy was for one simple reason. They couldn't think of any way that he could lose and regain his force powers over the course of the game. Since in Dark Forces he is just starting to learn them and in Outcast he gave them up in fear of turning to the darkside, though gets them back after saving Jan. But at the end of outcast there was no darkside ending and Kyle mearly killed Desann and kept on the path of the light. So they decided not to spend months researching a plot line that would fit into that and take the easy way out, mainly have a new character but keep Kyle as a major character.
I think it's unknown wether or not Lucasarts will continue Dark Forces or Jedi Knight. While its a good idea and they could very well restart the franchise and get very many more fans by creating a sequel. Many fans have already given up hope entirely and dedicated all of their energy into creating sequel-like mods (*cough* escape yavin four. Only decent one *cough*)
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The entire series revolve around Katarn, but there just isn't anything else that can be said about him. His part of the story is finished.
As for JK4, Doom 3 engine should do the trick, graphics wouldn't be my concern, but the story...I'd like to take control of Jaden who fell to the Dark Side after he took Ragnos' scepter, and to see new devastating powers the Force has to offer and to give fans a wider view into it's dark part... The death of an important character should mark the ending...dunno, just guessing...
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The entire series revolve around Katarn, but there just isn't anything else that can be said about him. His part of the story is finished.
As for JK4, Doom 3 engine should do the trick, graphics wouldn't be my concern, but the story...I'd like to take control of Jaden who fell to the Dark Side after he took Ragnos' scepter, and to see new devastating powers the Force has to offer and to give fans a wider view into it's dark part... The death of an important character should mark the ending...dunno, just guessing...
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What are talking about?Kyle's story is finished,I don't think he's dead yet,but I don't think Lucasarts doesn't plan on that for a while.You can't just say a main character is taken out for no reason.I'm mean he has alot of stories but i like those kind of charqacters with a big backround.
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Personally, I think that they should either, re-do the older games with a newer engine and better graphics...or, make a new JK game...that's my opinion...
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What are talking about?Kyle's story is finished,I don't think he's dead yet,but I don't think Lucasarts doesn't plan on that for a while. You can't just say a main character is taken out for no reason.I'm mean he has alot of stories but i like those kind of charqacters with a big backround.
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Kyle's fate isn't just in the hands of LucasArts now. Lucas Licensing has that power now - and at the present moment (40 years after the films) Kyle is on the Jedi Council - he'll die at some point, but it probably wont be for for a while.
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Kyle's fate isn't just in the hands of LucasArts now. Lucas Licensing has that power now - and at the present moment (40 years after the films) Kyle is on the Jedi Council - he'll die at some point, but it probably wont be for for a while.
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Hopefully they won't kill him like they did Mara or Chewie. Both died due to horrible/cheesy writing.   
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Mara/Chewie never died, they only died in that crappy set of fanfics known as the NJO.
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Mara/Chewie never died, they only died in that crappy set of fanfics known as the NJO.
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Crappy fanfixcs that also happen to be part of the official Star Wars continuity.
And Mara didn't die during the New Jedi Order series.
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Not all characters last forever, but really LA, JK3 NOW! Or would it be 4?
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Not all characters last forever, but really LA, JK3 NOW!
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A New JK game would be great and I respectfully disagree wtih a previous poster the Jedi story is NOT outdated or dumb, it has great depth and wondeful qualities. I will continue to hope that LucasArts comes back from the idiocy of the Lego game which are just plain a waste of time for anyone...and continue this great series with the great Quake Engine, one of the best ever developed and one that delivers a fine gameworld with reasonable demands on a reasonable system and which is eminently moddable. This was a much better direction than the KOTR series, it was good but not as good as the JK series.
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Wait a second! Jedi Academy is Jedi Knight III?.......I though it was a continuation of II.....And Ha! Inyri I have the Xbox version! 
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A New JK game would be great and I respectfully disagree wtih a previous poster the Jedi story is NOT outdated or dumb, it has great depth and wondeful qualities. I will continue to hope that LucasArts comes back from the idiocy of the Lego game which are just plain a waste of time for anyone...and continue this great series with the great Quake Engine, one of the best ever developed and one that delivers a fine gameworld with reasonable demands on a reasonable system and which is eminently moddable. This was a much better direction than the KOTR series, it was good but not as good as the JK series.
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Someone should definately email this to LucasArts. It embodies everything the hardcore Jedi Knight fan thinks of the series
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08-03-2008, 05:38 PM
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The New Tax Collector
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Location: Thailand
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 then we'll all get arrested...can't you see the headlines "CRAZY FANS TAKE OVER LA AND ARE ARRESTED!" 
Looks like a fruit cake to me. - Brutus
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Originally Posted by Q
I don't want to get my hopes up, but it's like the planets are aligning or something.
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