More KOTOR III Possibilty News! (KOTOR MMO Confirmed?)

[Prime]

Originally Posted by cutmeister

I hadn't heard that someone from BioWare specifically stated they wouldn't be making KotOR 3. Do you have a source you can provide to support your statement?

I don't think it was "we aren't going to make KOTOR 3" specifically, but that they will be only doing games featuring their own properties in the future. So essentially the same thing.

[Mister Chief]

Well, then again, it was said a few years ago that they won't be doing liscenced properties, and the game world changes quite often. Hell, up to last E3, Halo 3 was still denied. Epic still denies any Gears of War 2 (which is an obvious after the cliffhanger ending.)

[SilentScope001]

There is a difference!

Bungie DID Halo 2. So it is kinda obivous that they would do Halo 3.

Did Bioware did KOTOR2? Nope.

[Titanius Anglesmith]

Originally Posted by cutmeister

I hadn't heard that someone from BioWare specifically stated they wouldn't be making KotOR 3. Do you have a source you can provide to support your statement?

What I meant was, they said they hadn't met with LA at all, and hadn't talked about making it. If I had a source of where I saw that, I would give it to you, but unfortunately, I forgot.

[Igor_Cavkov]

I have no problem seeing some other developer

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Prime

I don't think it was "we aren't going to make KOTOR 3" specifically, but that they will be only doing games featuring their own properties in the future. So essentially the same thing.

Right. Greg Zeschuk did say in 2005 April that BioWare was going to focus on making games for their own IP. However shortly after the BioWare/Pandemic merger and capital infusion by Elevation Partners was announced in 2005 November Ray Muzyka said in an interview that they wanted to develop a balance in their portfolio between their own IP and high-profile licensed properties. He specifically mentioned Star Wars as an example of a such a property they developed for in the past. In other words, BioWare (and probably Pandemic too) are open to making games for licensed properties if they feel the license will be worth their development effort. See post #462 on page 12 of this thread for my sources on this.

Originally Posted by EagerWeasel

What I meant was, they said they hadn't met with LA at all, and hadn't talked about making it. If I had a source of where I saw that, I would give it to you, but unfortunately, I forgot.

Oh well. For my own personal reference I try to keep track of this stuff but I hope you understand why I don't bother with hearsay. I've gotten burned before.

[jesusfreaks_90]

I just read this it is not definitive but interesting. IGN posted on January 17 that Obsidian is working on 4 rpgs. 3 were unannounced but recently Obsidian announced that they were doing Aliens. So they are still working on 2 unannounced rpgs. Could one be K3? All I have is hope.

[GOD Radu]

Yeah MassEffect is the bomb! It looks divine!

I really pray to God (GOD Radu that is!) that they don't ****-up this third KOTOR, like TLS. This kind of game with this amount of fans all around the world should not be treated so poorlly. They should speak with UBISOFT maybe they can help them out.
Because UBISOFTs Prince of Persia RULZZZZZZ!

By the way! Darth Maul - The Forgotten Sith come on he won't ever be forgotten, he's the most horny sith in all of Star Wars!

[Jerrod_Tor]

Why, oh why must E3 be in July!

[darth fmc]

Originally Posted by kookaburra

NEWS ALERT!!
ANOTHER KOTOR RUMOUR/HOPE LURKING ON IGN
POSTED 26th September 2005 (AEST)
(snip!)

yes!!!!!! finaly its about time iv dine watsing for agis



Mod note: Trimmed quote. Please don't quote a two pages long post in its entirety just to add half a sentence, and don't revive threads that have been inactive for months unless you have something substantial to add. ~M

[SilentScope001]

That rumor was made in 2005. It is 2 years too old.

[Jediphile]

Someone should have put that up yesterday. Nobody would have believed it, but it would at least have been a good april's fool-joke...

Actually, when I think about it, it really isn't all that funny...

[Gargoyle King]

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller

Great news! So finally some solid confirmation that it is going to be done. Not that we all didn't know it would be done sometime anyways just because the first 2 were so good, but this is good to hear.

Like everything of this nature, take it like a grain of salt - its not official until its released or confirmed to be released by the developers/publishers. Unless specifically stated by LucasArts it is mere speculation...

[Char Ell]

*sigh* I guess maybe this is worth posting...

Originally Posted by Feargus Urquhart on Obsidian's forums, 2007-APR-04

Finally, I should probably talk about the twin gorillas in the closet. I'm sure there's a correct analogy in there somewhere, but that's what came to mind. Anyway, I'm speaking of the the KotOR3 and Fallout gorillas. Both of those are games that I and everyone else here at Obsidian would love to make. I don't know if we will ever get the chance, but I do continue to talk with LucasArts about what might be going on with KotOR3.

Source: Top Ten @ Obsidian, Featuring Feargus Urquhart

So at least we know that Obsidian's position hasn't changed and they're still interested in making KotOR 3. Not new news but rather a recent reaffirmation of Obsidian's previously expressed position.
***Jeopardy theme continues in its infinite playback loop***

[Jediphile]

Originally Posted by cutmeister

*sigh* I guess maybe this is worth posting...

Source: Top Ten @ Obsidian, Featuring Feargus Urquhart

So at least we know that Obsidian's position hasn't changed and they're still interested in making KotOR 3. Not new news but rather a recent reaffirmation of Obsidian's previously expressed position.
***Jeopardy theme continues in its infinite playback loop***

Actually, this looks like good news to me.

I realise Obsidian has said in the past that they'd do KotOR3, but to me that never sounded like more than willingness to do the project, or even that they'd just like the work.

But Feargus is not just anyone, and if he's actually pushing for KotOR3 actively, then at least we're not forgotten and Lucasarts is not allowed to simply forget about KotOR.

Also, if Obsidian is pushing for this, then it suggests to me that they actually do have some ideas of what should happen in K3, which could mean that there is indeed an outline for a K3 plot lying around that Obsidian is anxious to do. That would also be a good thing, I think, since that - if true - would me that a KotOR3 game will not get some rushed plot thrown onto it if and when it finally does come out.

Thanks for posting this, Cutmeister.

[Prime]

Well, now we know for sure that K3 is not in development and therefore is years away.

[SilentScope001]

Well, now we know for sure that K3 is not in development and therefore is years away.

And that since that post was 3 years old...

Yeah, prehaps, maybe the True Sith plotline won't get resolved. Eh. It's probraly a good thing really. Let the KOTOR series end on a high note.

[Titanius Anglesmith]

Well at least people at Obsidian want to do KotOR III, and are not just willing to do it. Even though development hasn't started yet, this is definitely good news in my opinion

[Prime]

Originally Posted by SilentScope001

And that since that post was 3 years old...

I'm pretty sure April 4, 2007 is only a few days ago.

[SilentScope001]

I'm pretty sure April 4, 2007 is only a few days ago

Er...I just read it right now.

Even so, my god. Still in talks?

[Jediphile]

I suppose another possibility is that K3 is in development with someone else, only LA won't tell Obsidian that, since it would reveal their plans.

But nah, that's a very remote possibility. I think Prime is more likely right about this, and this means we won't see K3 for years

But still, knowing that Obsidian is actively pushing for it to be made is good indeed. Even if LA won't budge, it somehow makes me feel better about K3 to know that Obsidian are so keen on doing it that they are actually pursuing the possibility. At least we're not forgotten by Obsidian, even if LA might have abandoned us...

[Cygnus Q'ol]

By the time it finally does release, will it be on the PS4 or the X-Box 720?

[Jediphile]

Or even the next edition of Windows..............

[Prime]

Originally Posted by SilentScope001

Er...I just read it right now.

Even so, my god. Still in talks?

I wouldn't even go so far as to call it "talks." There appears to be no negotiation, just OE asking about it.

[Darca Lar]

It's just rumors, there has been nothing official as of yet. So you're just gonna have to wait until LucasArts themselves or a programming company announces it.

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Darca Lar

It's just rumors, there has been nothing official as of yet. So you're just gonna have to wait until LucasArts themselves or a programming company announces it.

What are you talking about, Darca Lar? The only issue being discussed in the last 11 posts in this thread is the fact that Obsidian's CEO says they're still very much interested in making KotOR 3 and talks to LucasArts about it on occasion but he has no idea if Obsidian will ever get the chance to make KotOR 3. This not a rumor and nobody is claiming that KotOR 3 has been announced.

[Darca Lar]

I'm not saying that anyone's claiming anything, I'm only saying that there is a lot of stuff happening that we don't know about. And just because OE is in talks with LA doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to happen. An yes I think it will happen, but I'm not going to get carried away with all the thing's I read on the web.

[Char Ell]

Originally Posted by Darca Lar

And just because OE is in talks with LA doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to happen.

Prime already clarified this.

Originally Posted by Prime

I wouldn't even go so far as to call it "talks." There appears to be no negotiation, just OE asking about it.

What it comes down to is that Obsidian isn't working on KotOR 3, based off what Obsidian's CEO has said. Some have chosen to interpret Obsidian's continued expression of interest in KotOR 3 as a good thing. As for myself it leaves me scratching my head, wondering what in the world LucasArts is doing with KotOR 3, if anything at all.

[Darca Lar]

Haha, frustrating huh? Not knowing? Something should come up within at least a year's time, unless they do the same thing that happened with the new Starcraft game release.

[dowon]

http://forums.obsidianent.com/index....dpost&p=763923

Originally Posted by Feargus Urquhart, Apr 14 2007

Two of the products that we are making right now use licenses and one is an original IP that we are creating. By next year, that ratio might be more like one licensed products and two original IP games. But, it wouldn't surprise me if that didn't bounce back the other way a year or two from after that.

Obsidian is currently working on three projects - two licensed titles (Aliens RPG with Sega, NWN2 Expansion Pack with Atari) and an original IP (with Sega).

[adamqd]

Not sure if anyone else heard but, I just finished listening to a pod-cast that had an interview with Steve Sansweet,(fan relations Guy at lucas film) and he said that Lucusarts will play a big part in the upcoming celebration 4 convention, and that they would be unvailing "2" new titles (not including force unleashed) as its a star wars convention I assume both games will be star wars titles.

http://www.theforce.net/topstory/sto...ort_105366.asp

Well its news to me anyway

[Robb Stark]

I don't know. KotOR seems like one of those things that "insiders" likely always have their eyes and ears open for. If Lucas Arts had even approached a developer about KotOR it seems to me that it would be all over the net in a matter of days. And something makes me doubt they would make an announcement/unveiling if they had't already brokered a deal for whatever those games are.

With all the next-gen consoles out now, I'm betting that the newest Star Wars games will be rehashes of the old, but utilizing new the new technology. Since all the most recent releases have been along the lines of Battleground, Lego, and EaW, we "need" an updated Rogue Squadron-type game.

Or maybe I'm just not trying to get my hopes up.

[SilentScope001]

LA: "Here are two new Star War games. They are [DELETED FOR TRADE REASONS] and [DELETED FOR TRADE REASONS] (Sorry for deleting their titles. We don't want people to steal our ideas, you know). Oh, and they will be released on [DELETED FOR TRADE REASONS] (Again, we don't want to have too much pressure).

Needless to say, they are Star Wars games and will be very unique and fun. So, want to pre-order them?"

*People line up*

[DeadYorick]

Well new SW games are always fun. I am hoping for a new JK game. But im thinking its because its Darkside ending was a cliffhanger. Anyway both of Kotor's endings were left wideopen for a sequel so it may happen.

I just hope that if they do make a new KOTOR game they would make it so guns would be actualy USEFUll. Because I only used swords in Kotor since they were the most usefull weapons in the entire game.

[Titanius Anglesmith]

If they really are going to do this, one of them will be BF III. Will KotOR III be the other one? I highly doubt it, but there's always a small chance.

[Char Ell]

I listened to the The Force-Cast podcast adamqd linked to and took the liberty to transcribe the relevant portions.

"We're going to have a big presence from LucasArts. And we'll have some, they'll be two game announcements plus we'll see some really cool stuff from The Force Unleashed which is the next-gen game that will be out next year and the historical look at Star Wars games from LucasArts so that's going to be great." -Steve Sansweet
Time mark 34:29-34:50

Two game announcements, eh? I agree that one would think both would be SW games since Celebration IV is a SW convention but who knows? We know there are two unannounced games in development with Day One Studios and Free Radical. Perhaps LucasArts will use Celebration IV to announce what those games actually are. Will any of those two game announcements be KotOR-related though? Enquiring minds want to know but I guess we'll just have to wait for another month.

[Linky Triforce]

There are a number of possibilities of games to come..(I hope one of them is Knights 3)

Such as:

Knights of the Old Republic 3
Republic Commando 2
Empire at Wars Expansion(another one)
Battlefront 3
Jedi Academy 2 (Dark Forces 5 or Jedi Knight 4 if you want)
Star Wars Galaxies Expansion(although they said they wouldn't make one this year)

[Jae Onasi]

Merged 'More K3 News' with this thread since they discuss the same subject.

[Char Ell]

With the approach of Celebration IV the KotOR rumours are really flying now. HEXUS.gaming cites an anonymous source that tells them LucasArts will announce KotOR 3 during Celebration IV and will also show a 1-minute trailer of the game. The HEXUS reporter does admit to being somewhat skeptical about the likelihood of this happening though.

Skeptical? Yeah, me too. I can hardly wait until the end of May to get the real scoop and put the rumors to rest for a while.

[kookaburra]

God I hope you guys are right, I miss the KOTOR franchise a lot...Even though I haven't heard any thing from KOTOR for ages, I've stopped finding news for KOTOR 3 until I know it was offical...