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Old 10-09-2005, 04:15 PM   #1
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[WIP] Bastila's story on taris

I'm a semi-new modder here and i always liked playing with modules and im getting pretty good at it and i was looking through the maps for kotor tool and i thought of the great(well i think it is) idea. Here it is

You play through the endare spire as you normally would
Either when you talk to carth after the crash or after you rescue bastila and get to the apartment you can have an option to play out as bastila what happened from her perspective after she got to the planet.
Some intresting events could happen like escape attempts or something and it would go on until you meet up with yourself at the swoop race.

Well i was thinking of making this but I dont have many ideas of what will actually happen event wise so i would appreciate any ideas or comments
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:19 PM   #2
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Huh, sounds very interesting

Make sure you include:

Crash landing
Being taken prisoner
(Possible) Interoagation
Being rescued by..uhm... yourself? o_0

Anyhow, sounds good and I hope you stay at it.
I have seen a lot of modding projects with great potenial but not enough commitment =/


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Old 10-09-2005, 05:29 PM   #3
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Nice Idea!
I would think something like...
crash in the undercity> fight off a first wave of rakghouls> fight off a vulkar/sith scouting party> hide in sewers?> get trapped by gammorean slavers with stun gren, doors locking behind you, sewer gas, etc. (perhaps while fighting a second wave of rakghouls)> get sold to vulkars> dialogue w/Brejik?> swoop races.
You could make it even longer by being found/woken up by outcasts (dialogue), being given a(nother) weapon by outcasts, saving some outcasts from rakghouls/vulkars, trying to save Z from gammorreans, etc.

of course the normal sequence was probably more like...
get knocked out upon crash> wake up as vulkar prisoner> swoop races.
...but your idea is a nice way to include another quest, and maybe even lessen a distaste for bastila by empathizing with her situation(or get DS points by saying she's whining.lol) I like it. It does sound like a potentially large project, though. It might take a bit of scripting know-how to make it really smooth. I don't know if it could include cutscenes, but that would flesh it out some.(crash, rakghouls, capture, etc.) And of course theres the loss of sabre element, maybe she can't find it in the escape pod before she needs to pick up a staff, blade, pistol (emergency item in pod or be given one by outcasts) and deal with rakghouls/sith/vulkars.
I'm not sure where you would insert it most fluidly... either before you wake up in the apt, or before/after the cutscene that begins the swoopraces section. After you resue her seems late, unless its like a flashback wherein she is describing the events that lead up to her capture... and that would be even more dialogue editing, etc. Either way its a nice idea and it sounds like it could be a really fun project/mod. Best of luck with it, and good thinking.
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Old 10-09-2005, 05:44 PM   #4
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great idea

I agree with the others in thinking this is a great idea, and sounds alot of fun in playing. The beautiful daring and lovely Bastila forced to hide and run from the Sith, the biker gangs, the mob and the undead ghouls. But umm 1 request, can i be the guy that interrogates her, please please!! mmm Bastila
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Old 10-10-2005, 08:40 AM   #5
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Story

Well thanks for the feedback and I like the outcast idea and I think I have created a storyline for the quest, tell me if you like it.
  • Crash
  • runs from raghtgouls
  • knocked out
  • wake up in outcast village
  • not infected by ratgouls for some reason
  • too many sith by elevator so head to sewers
  • captured by gramollean guys
  • sold to vulcars
  • interrigation
  • held captive
  • try to escape
  • stopped
  • punished
  • swoop race
This is my main idea tell me if you like it or what should be changed.
edited version:
  • Crash
  • wake up in village, lost all items
  • told exit to upperlevels in sewers
  • Get some staff
  • fight off some raghtgouls
  • make it to rancor but taken prisoner by gramollean guys
  • dialog about selling you
  • sold to vulcars
  • interrigation
  • held captive
  • try to escape while sith interupt
  • stopped
  • punished/tortured
  • swoop race

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Old 10-10-2005, 09:29 AM   #6
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You can fend off raghouls, she lost her lightsaber, remeber?
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:42 AM   #7
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ah yes of corse. I'll change that, thanks.
Also does anyone have any good dialog ideas, I'm not so good at thinking up dialogs.

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Old 10-10-2005, 12:22 PM   #8
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just a couple things you have to remember

- bastialla lost her lightsaber in the crash
- Brejiks gang were the first people to the crash site
- The sith came around after asking some questions

it might be cool to have bastilla captured by brejiks gang and have the sith bust in on brejiks base asking some questions.......and that could be bastiallas possible escape attempt.....while brejik is distracted with the sith


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Old 10-10-2005, 12:24 PM   #9
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Here is my idea, I don't know if this is possible since I am not a modder (yet, at least, I hope to be).

You probably could have her lose her lightsaber and everything else, wake up in the village, and get a double bladed sword (not a vibroblade) and then get told that they think that the sewers connect to the lower city. Head in there, kill some Raghouls, and then you see a cutscene with Vulkars looting your escape pod, and then something like "There was a Republic officer in here, but it looks like she got away. The village should know something about her."

Then, you head through to the sewers into the upper sewers and see another cutscene of bribing Igear, the sleazy merchant, to tell them where she went. Bastila heads up into the place where the Rancor is, but the door is closed so she can't go through. A bunch of Gamorreans knock her out. In one of the cells, there could be some dialog where you talk to them and they discuss what to do with you and question you. You force persuade them, then get out, only to get captured by the Vulkars.

They take you to their base, interrogate you, and lock you up. You try to escape using force persuade again "I am supposed to be in a different cell" or something like that. Head out, fight your way to the door, and then in comes Brejik. He captures you, punishes Bastila (maybe by torture), and then puts her in that cage with that restraining thing. Then, it comes back to you.

By the way, I suppose this is like a dialoge choice? Because if so, I hope that you don't have to do it if you don't want to. That way you could do it on Dantooine when you are a Jedi and get the experience or something like that. That is just my two credits.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:47 PM   #10
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@RobQel-Droma That's some good ideas, I was also thinking about getting a staff from the village. Also yes I was going to make it non-madetory and I was also thinking of making it in those "Is there something you want to talk about" dialogs so you could do it whenever. I'll update the story I posted earlier to make it make sense to your ideas.

@Black_Eye_90: That sounds like a good idea about the distraction.
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:48 PM   #11
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I was thinking about doing this, but I'llleave it to you. You're most likely better at modding than I am.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:26 PM   #12
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I'll play it

Just one thing, in keeping with the humor of the original, the way she loses it must be hilariously humiliating, she did seem to get really worked up over it


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Old 10-10-2005, 05:51 PM   #13
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@REDJONNEYMIKE Yea it should be funny, maybe before she gets knocked out after the crash she sees it and runs to get it and the vibrations from her walking make it fall off a hill, or when she awakens in the village and askes about it and they say they thought it was scrap metal and used it for something.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:08 AM   #14
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or she was using a built in "feature" to mellow out the decent to taris and burned it out.

Disregard above statement

A more reasonable, yet hilarious suggestion, she got stuck in the under city for a little while, got drunk and wagered her saber and herself in pazaak, now isn't that just the idealistic jedi princess

Although that would have to be after a first escape, seeing as how that wouldn't work immediately after the crash.


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Old 10-11-2005, 04:06 PM   #15
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I'll make sure to include the second one, she'll lose all here credits and lightsabre there too and any other items.
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Old 10-11-2005, 04:40 PM   #16
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Maybe you could get some dark side points by laughing at her when she is done talking about what happened (or actually, what you have just been playing), like maybe laugh at her when she lost her lightsaber, the vibrations is funny, and then maybe offer sympathy or mock her. And then get lightside points for different dialog choices, maybe offering sympathy about parts like getting captured or tortured.

Maybe you could meet some other soldiers or Jedi too that would die.
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Old 10-12-2005, 12:49 AM   #17
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@rob, I think he said he wants you to play as Bastila, how would you mock her?

unless B is schizo?


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Old 10-12-2005, 02:17 AM   #18
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sounds like a good idea good luck


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Old 10-12-2005, 12:00 PM   #19
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^^^^

REDJOHHNYMIKE I was talking about after you are done playing with it maybe it will go back to dialog with her and you can mock her over what you have just played and what cutscenes you saw.
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:23 AM   #20
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I think you originally could?

EDIT: I meant the mocking, I know carth gave her a good ribbing


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Old 10-13-2005, 01:17 AM   #21
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As far as the lightsaber loss, getting taken captive by a few Vulkars, yes. Other than that, no, not all the stuff that he is suggesting.
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:03 PM   #22
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what does anyone think of the idea of after crashing you are picked up by the villigers but instead of just being in the village you end up in that infected villagers place and they think you're infected.
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:44 PM   #23
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Then what?
I always thought it goes like this
  • Crash Landing
  • Captured by the Black Vulkars
  • Interogation/Confinement
  • "Won" at the swoop race

Why would they think you are infected and if the you were put in the infected cage how in the world would you get out?


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Old 10-15-2005, 03:56 PM   #24
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Well to make it a little more interesting I thought I would add some things. Also you would be put in there and then they would remove you because they found out you weren't infrected.
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:37 PM   #25
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Or you could use Force Persuade, she does have that.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:27 AM   #26
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I always thought the story was

Step 1: Crash

Step 2: Wake up in cell in her underwear

Step 3: Get rescued, still in underwear

All in all, a very... um intresting idea


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Old 10-16-2005, 11:44 AM   #27
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Ok I've decided for the first release it will be that simple and I may add on later.
Anyway is there anyone who would want to volonteer to do voice overs. Here are the available voices needed.
  1. Lora (A fellow Black Vulcar slave who has some dialog)
  2. Interrogator(Self-explanitory)
  3. Torturer(Maybe same guy as Interrogator)
  4. The leader of the Black Vulcar Slave Compund


As T3-M4 once said:
"BeeBeep BlopBeeBeeBop....Weeeeooo"
Dont you agree?:

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Old 11-22-2005, 07:45 PM   #28
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I like this idea. Im actually about to begin making a mod where the PC (you) has to enter the Black Vulkar base to find Bastila.
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Old 11-22-2005, 09:19 PM   #29
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Just so all of you know, the Vulkars capture Bastila shortly after she crashes in the Undercity while she's searching for her lightsaber. Bastila says that herself.


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