Star Wars TV Series News [spoiler tags]

[Astrotoy7]

Originally Posted by MachineCult

I meant people on this thread were talking about Lando and Luke!?
and I obviously know those facts because I repeated them because of all the Mark Hamill talk.
**Misunderstanding Alert**

lolz....around here of all places people are the guiltiest of fanboy speculation

that's why the only news one should go by is official stuff

mtfbwya

[Jeff]

Here's a new article from IGN had a few days ago: Star Wars TV Series News

[Astrotoy7]

Nice work Moels

I like Lucas' comments about the days of 100 million dollar movies slowly being a thing of the past. I like that, as it would give more talented film makers a chance to get their work up, rather than relying on approval based studios, whose chief focus in $$$.

I's funny though, GL has had a lot to do with the advent and advocacy with digital film making, but to get there he needed the $$$ he generated from his 100 million dollar movies !!! He's noted this himself, in interview on the special features discs - saying he;s vecome the very thing he was always fighting not to be !!

ah, the ironies of life

mtfbwya

[eastcoast2895]

http://www.theforce.net/swtv/story/S...News_97543.asp

not sure if this is new or not, but apparently its going to take around a yr and a half to get the show out.

[Astrotoy7]

nice work eastcost, thats report is March 14 so it was only put up today :

here's a snippet, a quote from Rick McCallum:

"First up, the Stars Wars TV series that we’ve been hearing about since Sith came out. “That’s not going to happen probably for another year and a half while we develop scripts and everything else. But it’s fantastic; we’ve got some incredible writers. It’s going to be much darker, much more character-based, and I think it’s going to be everything the fans always wanted the prequels to be. They’ll be one-hour episode. It takes place between Episodes III and IV. It’s going to be all-new characters, maybe a few bounty hunters in there to start the series off."

*Darker and Character driven = awesome

mtfbwya

[Ecthelion]

Originally Posted by Rick McCallum

It’s going to be all-new characters, maybe a few bounty hunters in there to start the series off.

Fine, as long as they don't make them have nine lives. The first two seasons of the Clone Wars were great, but after reading that Asajj Ventress and Durge somehow survived their deaths (although Asajj's was ambiguous, I'll admit), I'm not so sure introducing new enemies and bounty hunters is a good idea. True, the cartoons didn't have anything to do with this (I think it was comics), but it's still silly. Doesn't anyone stay dead in Star Wars anymore? What's next, they somehow resurrected Jango Fett or Dooku after giving them new heads?
/rant

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the TV series as well as the new episodes of the Clone Wars. Although they've said the TV series will have all-new characters, it would be awesome to see a cameo from established characters.

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller

I'd rather there be no TV series because I don't want Star Wars turned into Star Trek.

The Star Wars TV series will have a long way to go before it gets Star Trek's TV "legacy" - after all, Star Trek managed to squeeze out 3 series and 17 seasons of good TV before it got crappy. :P

[MachineCult]

Who else here really wants it to have Quinlan Vos in it?

[Commander Obi-Wan]

I wouldn't mind him in it. Though, depends on the time frame of the show, and if he fits in that time zone.

[Astrotoy7]

Vos is too much EU to feature in anything more than a cameo role. I think people need to get over their fanboy fantasies of having their fave EU characters feature in the show.

When MacCallum mentions "bounty hunters" and "familiar characters" we should think of Fett and the Bounty Hunters that appeared in ESB.

mtfbwya

[Kurgan]

. It’s going to be much darker, much more character-based, and I think it’s going to be everything the fans always wanted the prequels to be.

So McCallum is admitting the fans didn't get what they wanted with the prequels? Wow. So I guess we'll be getting lots of female nudity and gruesome deaths for Jar Jar I take it? Heh... Appealing to fanboy fantasies could be a disaster though, look at how it has wrecked havoc on the EU...

It's going to be the Howard Stern show, starring Yoda and Chewie with recurring guests Boba Fett, Darth Maul and various Twi'Lek porn stars. Or maybe the Jerry Springer show, Star Wars style... yikes (I think Ian McDiarmond would make a good host). Maybe a "Crocodile Hunter" type show featuring Super Shadow and his giant sqwaking lizard pet. To a dark place this line of thinking will take us...!

[Alkonium]

If this thing about the series being what the fans wanted the Prequels to be, does this mean Boba Fett kills Mace Windu although he was already killed by Palpatine?

[Astrotoy7]

lolz... I think you are all letting your imaginations get the better of you

I think McCallum is talking about
*Jedi Purge - start of this was scaled down in ROTS
*Birth of the Rebellion (the prelude of which was cut from ROTS)

GL wanted the PT to focus on *Anakin* so alot of stuff that would've been cool was cut out. Thats why these series are being made IMO : More great Clone Wars action in the CGI and More Rise of the Empire/Jedi Purge/Rebellion Stuff for the live action series.

mtfbwya

[Ecthelion]

Originally Posted by Kurgan

It's going to be the Howard Stern show, starring Yoda and Chewie with recurring guests Boba Fett, Darth Maul and various Twi'Lek porn stars.

While I don't think most fans would have a problem with Twi'Lek porn stars (although they wouldn't be able to show anything on TV), I think Astrotoy7 hit the nail on the head.

And although I agree that Vos would probably not appear in anything more than a cameo role (and that assumes that Lucas has made it canon that Vos is still alive), I think we are definitely going to have a Jedi-in-hiding or two. After all, what is Star Wars without lightsabers?

[Darth_Terros]

Originally Posted by Ecthelion

(and that assumes that Lucas has made it canon that Vos is still alive),

Its canon read the last three republic comics.

[Kurgan]

I'm also bracing myself for all the newbies that are going to post here thinking that SuperShadow is a reliable source of information about Star Wars. At least I know that in this community they'll be "well educated" on this matter.

[Ecthelion]

Originally Posted by Darth_Terros

Its canon read the last three republic comics.

I understand it's in the comics - what I meant was, does George agree with that or not? He's overruled things in the comics before.

And no, I'm not going to read the comics just to see if he's still alive - I'll take your word for it. It'll be a cold day in hell before I read a Star Wars comic book, although I've heard they've gone up in quality since that travesty known as Dark Empire.

Oh, and don't get me started on SuperShadow, Kurgan. He reminds me of all those people that claim they were the "5th Beatle."

[MachineCult]

Ecthelion, The Clone Wars comics are excellent, and alot of the EU in the SW Databank (canon) is from comics.

[Ecthelion]

Originally Posted by MachineCult

Ecthelion, The Clone Wars comics are excellent, and alot of the EU in the SW Databank (canon) is from comics.

The main reason I haven't tried to read any of the comics (besides not being a comics fan) is because of the whole "die and come back 17 times" thing that's so common in comics. After looking at various online sources on Durge and Asajj Ventress, I know I couldn't read those comics and retain any measure of realism. In my book, when people die, they stay dead. I don't care how powerful your "regenerative" powers are, blowing up = dead.

The Star Wars books I have read have all had believable characters, although I should note that I've only read a few of the books. I have heard that there is out-of-character - and otherwise unrealistic - stuff going on in some of them, like Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc. Please don't bother showing me that I'm wrong about Fett - I consider that part of the EU "apocryphal" (I can just imagine it's some other bounty hunter impersonating Fett :P).

[eastcoast2895]

http://www.theforce.net/topstory/sto...hows_97662.asp

nothing really new except it mentions that they want to do 100 episodes. I think this is kinda ambitious since they haven't even made one episode yet and don't know if it will get the ratings to support 100 episodes. Also if they plan only to do 100 episodes, that may mean about 4 - 5 seasons if they follow the standard of ~20 episodes a season. Also for people who stop reading when they see the show will be in 3-D needing 3-D glasses, scroll to the end of the article and see that they were talking about redoing the movies in 3-D at the same time causing the confusion. Also I'm kinda afraid that they are going to try to do something that may cost 20 million to do right for only 1 million. I hope they don't cut too many corners and it looks like a really bad B movie.

[Kurgan]

Just a reminder, the SW Databank really isn't itself canon (we've never been told this), only the movie section is a summary of things that are accepted as canon, but is under constant revision, assuming it is accurately written in the first place. Likewise the EU stuff is canon (C-level) also assuming it was accurately translated. The behind the scenes stuff is a gray area, since it may or may not have anything to do with how the movies and EU stuff fit together in the current continuity. To see a more reliable and comprehensive source for determining canon continuity stuff (and no, it's not wikicities), check out The Holocron.


100 episodes isn't an unreasonable goal. The goal of any tv (non mini) series is to get the minimum number of episodes commonly required for syndication rights, which I believe is 100. That doesn't mean they really will get 100 episodes, only that this is the minimum goal for the show to survive long term on the tube. It all depends really. Some shows have been cancelled after only a handful of episodes being aired, while others stretch on for years, despite poor quality. Look at some of the later Star Treks, that stretched on for years after they were past their prime. Once they crossed that magical 100 episodes mark they got more leway. I don't know how it all works, but that's what I've read anyway. Hype for Star Wars was at an all time high, but I'm not sure that they will be able to keep it up until the show is actually ready. Now that the movies are done, are two tv shows (one of which is a rehash of an existing microseries) and 3-D re-releases of the movies in theaterse really enough to guarentee high ratings?

I'm certain that a lot of people will probably watch the pilot, but after that it's anyone's guess. If it's bad, it'll only be watched by a small group of hardcore, diehard fans. And it's been demonstrated time and again that a big budget, but mediocre series can't survive on the viewership of a small hardcore group for long. Even good series's have been cancelled for various reasons. So Lucas is taking a big risk with the tv series, perhaps even moreso than with a movie, which is more or less a one shot deal and can have a life on the home market (much harder to market a season box set as is so commonly done, which will cost the consumer a lot more to buy, meaning they'll have to be a much bigger fan). On the other hand TV shows can spread by word of mouth and that sort of thing, so sometimes they get free advertising (moreso than a single movie).

We'll wait and see. It could go either way, but TV shows for a popular franchise always risk running it into the ground since they need to keep coming up with new material to keep it fresh.

My advice to Lucas is to have as much of the series planned out in advance as possible, have a writer's bible and stick to it. Put competent people in charge, not just "yes-men" and people who want to imitate the latest "kewl" stuff in entertainment these days. The formulaic, deus ex machina type stuff so characteristic of latter day Star Trek would not be a good model to follow. Unfortunately, Lucas himself seems to be the type of guy to want to constantly re-invent his stuff (and has he ever done a tv series? I don't think he has, only smaller specials, few of which have been successful), so I guess he should get the best people he can in charge of this show.

[Astrotoy7]

lolz.... now that Im back - I can keep this thread chugging along !!

IESB.net managed to catch GL on his way to an awards ceremony - Gave up some info on the TV series - including the name of a new character in the animated TV series:

spoiler:

Osoka - a padawan, the same species as Shaak Ti

More confusingly, GL described the live action series as:

"... one show that's going to be split up into four shows. Each show focuses on a different character."

Two things he said I really liked:
"SW is not dead...its going to get bigger and better"

When questioned if there will be a Ep 7, 8 , 9.
"No....the skywalkers are done"

Hopefully that will shut alot of people up....nothing is more annoying than people who say they "heard that GL is making 7-9" but never state their source....

video is HERE

finally, here is a pic that came into circulation with the new line of SW toys previewed... believed to be a pic of the CG Yoda from the animated series... Im not spoiler tagging it as we know who yoda is !! Pic from TFN/Rebelscum



Finally, as mentioned in the interview....there is a strong rumour that there will be a preview of the animated series at the C4 Celebration... Too bad I dont live in the US

mtfbwya

[Gargoyle King]

Originally Posted by windu6

What do you very strong Star Wars fans out there think of a

Knights of the Old Republic tv series? The reason I ask because I

believe extreme Star Wars fans had always wanted a Star Wars

tv series. Well since Episode 3:Revenge of the Sith is supposably

to be the last film as George Lucas claim, why not have a tv

series.

It has been confirmed for a release for around 2009. I'm a great Star Wars fan, but if "Blade - The Series" is anything to go by, then i won't hold my breath. However if the TV show is successful, George Lucas himself has suggested that he may move the series to different eras of the Expanded Star Wars Universe, possibly indicating a Kotor series sometime in the future.

MORE INFO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wa...tion_TV_series

[Astrotoy7]

Originally Posted by Gargoyle_King

.....George Lucas himself has suggested that he may move the series to different eras of the Expanded Star Wars Universe, possibly indicating a Kotor series sometime in the future....

lolz.

hmm...lets see - a wiki article written by a fanboy vs an interview with GL himself(see my link above). I wonder which is a more credible source!

In that very interview GL said a firm no to EU material being made into anything specific. He says that they use EU as 'an inspiration' (ie. characters, names, places). Since KOTOR era stuff has been covered in the games and comics, this one must be a longshot. It is really difficult to call what GL is interested apart from Clone Wars/Civil Ware era stuff. He has never mentioned anything specific about this in any source. He did write about Bane in teh TPM novelisation, but that was backstory to explain why the sith had disappeared for the last 1000 years.

lets just see how these series go first

mtfbwya

[Prime]

Actually, Lucas' view of the Old Republic pre-TPM is drastically different from the EU.

[urluckyday]

Yeah, I heard that too.

[Jayce76]

Originally Posted by MachineCult

Who else here really wants it to have Quinlan Vos in it?

I'm not sure where I heard it or read it , but talk is that Vos may be in the series in some shape or form after all. Which would of course cause his deleted death in Episode III too never be incorporated in the motion picture.

[coupes.]

Holy thread revival Batman ! Please don't bump 2 year old threads.

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