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Old 10-31-2005, 01:18 PM   #41
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How about the PC in Kotor III is the child (grown up of course) of Jolee Bindo. We never know if he had kids. That would be a nice plot twist and very Star Wars like. We could also find out what ever happened to old Jolee. Perhaps Revan would recognise the child as Jolee's offspring or perhaps Jolee's kid would not know who their true father was and this would be revealed to them later in the game?
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:50 PM   #42
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How about the PC in Kotor III is the child (grown up of course) of Jolee Bindo. We never know if he had kids. That would be a nice plot twist and very Star Wars like. We could also find out what ever happened to old Jolee. Perhaps Revan would recognise the child as Jolee's offspring or perhaps Jolee's kid would not know who their true father was and this would be revealed to them later in the game?
That would be terrible. It would mean the only race you could choose would be a black man or woman. Already you're alienating the majority of gamers who like to use the white or asian looking templates, not to mention you're not giving people the freedom to create their own character.


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Old 10-31-2005, 04:37 PM   #43
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How about the PC in Kotor III is the child (grown up of course) of Jolee Bindo. We never know if he had kids. That would be a nice plot twist and very Star Wars like. We could also find out what ever happened to old Jolee. Perhaps Revan would recognise the child as Jolee's offspring or perhaps Jolee's kid would not know who their true father was and this would be revealed to them later in the game?
I think that's a great idea. But I agree with IndianaSolo. But Jolee's partner could have been anyone, so the kid can be white, asian, or whatever like his mom. Not genetically feasible, but you get teh point.
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:45 PM   #44
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But it wouldn't make sense for a pale white skinned human to be the offspring of Jolee. It just would be a little bit to wierd. I vote against being any of the earlier characters offspring.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:58 PM   #45
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There a lot of exceptions to that, you know. I have seen african people with blue eyes, because they have parents of both races. If you combine a caucasian with an african american, you could get anything.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:06 AM   #46
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why not start as a new one not an offspring from older NPC's...

I just don't feel like it's good for me... well for me but for you guys... don't let me get in your way

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Old 11-02-2005, 10:17 AM   #47
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yea i think that the PC shud be the offspring of someone u meet in the game, depending on what color of character u choose in the begining.

eg: If ur white, then u r Carth and Bastila's kid, if ur black, like TheExileReturns
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:33 AM   #48
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I kind of like that Idea, as that I would like to have both Revan and "The Exile" in my party at some point in the game. Because they're charachters were too deep, and the moment between Carth and The Exile about finding Revan was too hinting to be completel ignored.
man if you have both of those jedi in your party whats the point of having any other party members, because all you need for total domination is the three right there. Definately a bad choice unless you join up at the end to take on the True Dark Lord.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:36 AM   #49
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Maybe even be the son of Revan looking for his father, with his power bestowed within you and you can also find him through the force ultimately leading you to eachother, and whether you fight him/join him/ etc. is up in the air
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:02 AM   #50
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^Revan can be female you know, and if she was DS then that would mean: dead Carth = no kids.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:29 PM   #51
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You're not considering the fact that Jolee's wife could have been alien (Twilek, Zabrak, Cathaar, Miraluka etc.) The child could be half human/ half whatever, assuming they could interbreed. I don't see why the race should be an issue with your PC being the child of Jolee.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:44 PM   #52
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I once again agree with The Exile Returns, and Jolee's wife cud be anything, and I mean anything...sweet but the PC cud be anybody u meet in the game's offspring. Me and my sister have created 2 characters and a planet, so we cud use them two.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:46 PM   #53
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So we are going to be Mr. Bindo. Quarter black, quater asian, quarter twi-lek, and quarter whatever. Uh-uh, no. And if we are going on genetically possible, isn't it genetically IMpossible to breed with a different species, as in aliens? If not, well then, we could be anything. Twi-Lek, Miraluka, Trandoshan. So what if they put the option to be an alien in, you would only be half alien. Some half-breed human with the start of headtails half growing out of their head, or something worse .

Why not be Juhani's child? Or Canderous's? Or Mission's? Look at it this way. What about those people that went to Kashyyyk last because of Jolee? You might be causing a lot of people to be disgusted at being his child, instead of being a totally new PC without any known parents.

The fact is, while it might be genetically possible for their to be a round-shaped faced pale white person to be the son of a black square-shaped face person, it would be strange anyways. It would definitely not be common, and it would be very wierd. It might be able to happen, but only in a long shot, and it wouldn't make sense for some people.
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:42 PM   #54
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New PC for me.
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:43 AM   #55
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You're not considering the fact that Jolee's wife could have been alien (Twilek, Zabrak, Cathaar, Miraluka etc.) The child could be half human/ half whatever, assuming they could interbreed. I don't see why the race should be an issue with your PC being the child of Jolee.
At most his wife could only be what is refered to as near-human. Other species are just that, other species. So that means there can be no cross-breeding because the genetics are too different. So if the PC is alien, that eliminates romantic plotlines with human characters.

Personally I don't think that is the way to go.

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Old 11-03-2005, 11:31 PM   #56
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Other species are just that, other species. So that means there can be no cross-breeding because the genetics are too different. So if the PC is alien, that eliminates romantic plotlines with human characters.
While it is quite true that genetically two members of a different alien species would not likely be able to have children (Gene Rodenberry's universes excepted), this certainly does not remove any possibility of romance between them. As long as both cultures have similar concepts of love, etc. And are physically compatable.*

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Old 11-03-2005, 11:41 PM   #57
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As long as both cultures have similar concepts of love, etc.

I dunno. Possible I guess, but it would weird when they...you know...try to do...stuff...

To each his own I guess

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Old 11-04-2005, 11:02 AM   #58
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I dunno. Possible I guess, but it would weird when they...you know...try to do...stuff...

To each his own I guess

Ahem...well, except for females twi'leks. They're just hot and cool
That top line is one of the problems I have about playing as an alien. What if you were a Kel Dor Revan and Bastila, you know, kissed you? That would be really wierd.
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:06 AM   #59
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For KotOR 3, I want to be the new PC. Because the developer of KotOR 3 should have made a choice about the road The Exile walks. Light or Dark....The same as they did in KotOR 2, where Revan walked the path of the Dark Side. Otherwise your going to start with someone who hasn't chosen yet. That is how you play KotOR. And that should be weird, considering you chose already in KotOR 1 & 2. Another fact is that you are already very strong in the Force and you couldn't choose as much powers as we did in KotOR 1 & 2. So KotOR 3 must be with a new PC.
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That top line is one of the problems I have about playing as an alien. What if you were a Kel Dor Revan and Bastila, you know, kissed you? That would be really wierd.
OMG, that's really weird two Kel-Dor's kssing each other?! They cover their mouths. If they removed that I say it's the most disgusting and slimy kissing scene in the world.

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Old 11-05-2005, 11:37 AM   #61
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that seen wud be SO FRIGGIN" FUNNY

I'd wet myself if i saw that.. Imagine if it was like, Zoid burg or sumthing..

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Old 11-05-2005, 02:13 PM   #62
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OMG, that's really weird two Kel-Dor's kssing each other?! They cover their mouths. If they removed that I say it's the most disgusting and slimy kissing scene in the world.

No alien's for me.
Well, actually I was talking about a Kel-Dor and Bastila (human) kissing. But it would still be disgusting either way.
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:24 AM   #63
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How about we play as Revan and Exile's children?

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Old 11-06-2005, 04:04 PM   #64
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^You can reject Bastila. That wouldn't be an original idea.
I think they should drop the romance thing altogether, but they probably won't.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:09 PM   #65
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The chances of them dropping the romance is probably about the same as getting rid of the Hawk, or the two droids. Its been there, its probably going to stay.
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:04 PM   #66
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The chances of them dropping the romance is probably about the same as getting rid of the Hawk, or the two droids. Its been there, its probably going to stay.
I agree even if some of the romance plots sound cheesy


Still I voted accidently for Revan but I would rather have a new PC. Just as long as the background makes sense. I went through the game TSL several times and still didn't make a good connection to where the Exile was coming from
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:37 PM   #67
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I would think the new PC would be an apprentice of one of the Exile's old crew.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:29 PM   #68
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^I would actually rather have Bastila as your master.

The people from K2 and the others from K1 should all make cameos; Not all of them, of course, people like Juhani, Zaalbar, maybe Mission, and some from K2 probably shouldn't be there. Juhani could have been killed and it wouldn't have depended on Revan's alignment the first time; Anyways, she wasn't that much of an important character. Same for Zaalbar, he isn't important enough for the devs to try and fit him in there.
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:04 PM   #69
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But he is a Wookie! Wookies rule!!! He can't die!
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^Chewbacca died.
But you're right, Zalaar shouldn't die. THAT WOULD SUCK!
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:17 PM   #71
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I know he died, but that was crappy EU... I like EU but they shouldn't have killed Chewie. Anyways, it took a moon to take the furry guy out. Wookies rule!
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:03 PM   #72
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I voted 'Dont really care'.
I can see why most people would want a new PC but it gets a little repetitive starting at lvl 1 all the time. We can all predict it already.

First level you're a normal person with no knowledge of the force. You're under attack from some enemy. You survive, meet a jedi master who trains you to become a jedi.
You become a jedi in record time and go off to the unexplored regions in search of Revan and the Exile even though you're hopelessly inexperienced, while all the other jedi masters just sit on their arses in some Enclave.

You know that's what it's gonna be like! :P
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:07 PM   #73
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I never said that Zaalbar should die, I just said he shouldn't be in there. Personally, WOOKIEES RULE!!!!!! For Chewie to die was just heartbreaking.... That *sniff* poor, poor Wookiee *sniff*....

I was just saying that he wasn't that important enough to make a cameo. But we need a Wookiee. Probably the most recurring things in KotOR are 1)Ebon Hawk, 2) T3, 3) HK, 4)A Wookiee. We need all four to come back.

EDIT: But, Anathema, it doesn't have to be repetitive. It would be nice if it was a bit different twist on things, although I have a feeling that it will be like you said. But the complications of making you be Revan/Exile again are just... Well, I doubt it could be done and make a good story.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:26 PM   #74
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I agree with the Revan/Exile thing. I'd like the PC to start at maybe lvl 5 or something, as an already established jedi. A lot of people have said how they'd like to start the game with a lightsaber.

With the first two games they could justify the PC getting so strong so soon because they had previously been jedi and suffered the old amnesia thing.
If they pull that trick again with a new PC...
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I'd like the PC to start at maybe lvl 5 or something, as an already established jedi.
You can be level 1 and an "established" Jedi. Starting the game beyond level one is unacceptable. Do not discern level as a statement of capability.

Example: Bastila was less than level 4 when she boarded Revan's flagship and confronted Revan.


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Old 11-09-2005, 10:23 AM   #76
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:29 AM   #77
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No it won't, it can progress. Think about K1, it had an ending. They could have stopped right there, nothing wrong with it. K2, well, a little different. Opened up some new things. But still, they can resolve it all in K3 and finish it up, it wouldn't be that hard. Make it a longer game if you have to. Besides, I am not counting on their being twenty games of this KotOR series, I think that KotOR III will be the ender. Maybe not the last KotOR RPG, but the end of Revan and the Exile.
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Yup, Should be the last one about Revan/Exile. Could you imagine trying to keep track of all the possible endings for more than three games. It would be a nightmare for the developer.

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Old 11-09-2005, 05:56 PM   #79
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I voted for new PC. There could be evidence of Revan/The Exile doing stuff in the regions beyond the outer rim that needs investigation, so the Jedi council sends a Jedi (player) out to check it out. Heck, we could even get Revan and the Exile as the main villains in Kotor III... or another villain who has some sort of influence over them. Whatever the case, I hope they will bring back the option to tell the game how you played the previous installments (light/dark, male/female for both Revan and the Exile). When I first saw that in Kotor 2 I thought it was pretty cool. I am against using the Exile or Revan as PC again cause how would you justify each of em to start at level 1 again? Loss of power? Been there, done that to be honest. I would like to see Kotor III have you begin as a Jedi right away and to prove yourself to the council and finalize your training, they would send you on this mission.
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New PC for sure. I just hope they have better player models than TSL.
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