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Old 11-11-2005, 12:11 PM   #41
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Be mindful of your feelings.

It is forbidden for Jedi to have such attachments.
There's a reason for this.

One thing leads to another, the next thing you know there will be a bunch of little siths and younglings out in the backyard squaring off with dad's lightsaber when he's not home.

What would've happened if Luke and Leia grew up together with Vader as Dad?
What would Christmas be like at Uncle Sidious' house?

Takes sibling rivalry to a whole new level.

NO KISSING!!!


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Old 11-11-2005, 01:14 PM   #42
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What do you think you are saying. Yes they do follw the Jedi Code:
There is no emotion, there is peace
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge
There is no passion, there is serenity
There is no chaos, there is harmony
There is no death, there is the Force

BUT, in expanded universe and in Revenge of the Sith, you do have Jedi falling in love. Think of Jolee Bindo and his theory of love and Bastilla kissing you if you are the MalePC. There has to be some kissing. It's a spontaneous emotion or feeling and it is a natural reaction for humans. I don't know about aliens but there you go. Leave the kissing in besides its amusing to watch.

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Old 11-11-2005, 04:00 PM   #43
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I am with JediMaster12. Plus, there is a lot of grey jedi that are light sided and fall in love without problems. I still don't see the real reason behind the no love rule for jedi. It can lead to other things, but this is very difficult, and only happens with jedi, while there can be lots of good people who fall in love. Leia married and Luke fell in love numerous times.
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:24 AM   #44
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What do you think you are saying. Yes they do follw the Jedi Code:
There is no emotion, there is peace
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge
There is no passion, there is serenity
There is no chaos, there is harmony
There is no death, there is the Force
It doesn't mention anything about one night stands. Though there is some debate possible about this, doe it require
ignorance (no)
chaos (no)
death (no, however it can create live)
emotion (debatable, but it doesn't really NEED it. There are other thing to make it rise. I think that is what Palpy meant when he sais something like 'rise my friend' in I believe EP VI)
passion (same as emotion)

A JC debate about exiling a Knight would be something like
JC: 'Did you impregnate her?'
Knight: 'Yep'
JC: 'Do you love her?'
Knight: 'Nope'
JC: 'In that case it's OK with us, hell, we do it all the time. Why do you think Bastila is our favorite Padawan?'

That is why the Sith are so much better, the Jedi are perverted.
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:01 AM   #45
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Because of all these rules about love, I'd rather be a New Republic Jedi, although they have no Sith to fight, but they're ok with things like love and taking on old Padawans.

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Old 11-12-2005, 09:54 AM   #46
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Yeah, Luke changed a lot the Jedi Order, making it more neutral and less dogmatic, which has proven to be a good method. Balance is not on the extremes.
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:02 AM   #47
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You guys are something else. As for passion and emotion being the same thing, they are two totally different things. As Jolee Bindo would say, passion leads to the dark side through anger and jealousy. Emotion does not lead to the dark side only to passion. Anger and jealousy are the misuse of emotion and passion.


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Old 11-13-2005, 05:01 AM   #48
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You guys are something else. As for passion and emotion being the same thing, they are two totally different things. As Jolee Bindo would say, passion leads to the dark side through anger and jealousy. Emotion does not lead to the dark side only to passion. Anger and jealousy are the misuse of emotion and passion.
I didn't mean to say that emotion and passion are the same thing, but the same reasoning can be applied.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:31 AM   #49
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Passion is an emotion.

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Old 11-16-2005, 05:36 PM   #50
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You know though, even though Luke changed the New Jedi Order it's like trying to justify using an AMRAM missile on a city, the way how he justifies using powers of the darkside, to me that chips away at integrity.

On another point: as Jolee would put it, "Love doesn't lead to the darkside. Passion which can lead to rage and fear and can be controlled but love itself will save you, not condemn you. Controlling your passions while being in love, that is what they should to beware. Love causes pain and how you deal with the bad part of love determines your character."

I hope that gives my thoughts. I may be a romantic idiot but that is what I believe and the option to kiss an NPC would give KOTOR 3 what KOTOR 1 had.

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Old 11-16-2005, 05:44 PM   #51
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The jedi were blinded by their mindless rules which was their downfall they were studying the force wrong if they used the force without the bans on love and passion (the opposite of the sith way hate/greed) Then the Jedi would destroy the sith thats why to gain the balance in the force anakin had to kill off each faction so that the new Jedi Order(Luke) could make new laws (Read this at starwars.com so this is an official explanation) so to answer your question they should be allowed to kiss in kotor 3 as a love interest makes your character stronger
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:12 PM   #52
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Yes it does. I hope my previous quote from Jolee helps too. After all the whole point is that we are defined by our action and how well we can control our passions when making decisions determines who we are.

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Old 11-18-2005, 07:53 PM   #53
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Why not have a Gay or Lessy NPC ???
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Old 11-18-2005, 11:42 PM   #54
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I am not kissing G0-T0.


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Old 11-19-2005, 12:34 PM   #55
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Well, I am all for putting the "kiss" command in the game once you win the guy/lady over. Technically you can do it with Visas, in a different way...

NO, I am not asking for "HOT COFFEE" style a la "Grand Theft Auto", but a kiss, and a few *OPTIONAL* mushie talk would be nice. Or even some random flirts with friend PCs. I won't mind if they get something for the "Pride Community either" only if its optional!

As for the whole "Jedi and Sex" thingy, I think its ok. Remember, the galaxy is filled with extremely diverse cultures... and creatures, and sex is hard to define. Some may do it with a bit of "hot Coffee" others by leaving packs of fluids in becta tanks...

As for Love... Jedis can love. Many famous Jedis have offsprings also. Its attachment that may lead to the dark side, not love. So you don't see current Luke-Mara having any problems, nor do Han-Leia, Karl-Jan... Now extreme Obsession and attachment can be a problem, like Little Solo and Queen K... I see him walking down a bad path.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:15 PM   #56
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Well, I am all for putting the "kiss" command in the game once you win the guy/lady over. Technically you can do it with Visas, in a different way...

NO, I am not asking for "HOT COFFEE" style a la "Grand Theft Auto", but a kiss, and a few *OPTIONAL* mushie talk would be nice. Or even some random flirts with friend PCs. I won't mind if they get something for the "Pride Community either" only if its optional!

As for the whole "Jedi and Sex" thingy, I think its ok. Remember, the galaxy is filled with extremely diverse cultures... and creatures, and sex is hard to define. Some may do it with a bit of "hot Coffee" others by leaving packs of fluids in becta tanks...

As for Love... Jedis can love. Many famous Jedis have offsprings also. Its attachment that may lead to the dark side, not love. So you don't see current Luke-Mara having any problems, nor do Han-Leia, Karl-Jan... Now extreme Obsession and attachment can be a problem, like Little Solo and Queen K... I see him walking down a bad path.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #57
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Maybe you want to kiss Wookies, but I know I sure don't. I don't really see much of a purpose to this. Romance in the game is one thing, but it should be developed, and dare I say scripted. Perhaps dialogue options that persue romance as apposed to not, that is one thing I suppose.
/shrug

My thoughts on that anyways.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:35 PM   #58
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Romance is the thing for the third KOTOR. I happened in the first, why not the third?

Leia: "I'd just as soon as kiss a Wookie."
Han: "I can arrange that. You could use a good kiss!"

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Old 11-22-2005, 09:28 AM   #59
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they should do that if u can have hig inf u will go beyond a kiss

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Old 11-23-2005, 02:31 PM   #60
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Romance is not a bad thing. It's part of who we are and what makes us human. Heck I think it can make an alien species human if they can love too.

*Thinking over that last part*

So why all the fuss over whether or not to kiss an NPC at will? I think it's neat and if it was in the first two then it should be in the third KOTOR.

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Old 11-30-2005, 09:26 AM   #61
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Maybe you want to kiss Wookies, but I know I sure don't. I don't really see much of a purpose to this. Romance in the game is one thing, but it should be developed, and dare I say scripted. Perhaps dialogue options that persue romance as apposed to not, that is one thing I suppose.
/shrug

My thoughts on that anyways.
It could be interesting...



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Old 11-30-2005, 07:58 PM   #62
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Now that is scary! Maybe we should stick to humans kissing.

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Old 12-17-2005, 09:28 PM   #63
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Well a kiss scene might be an interesting thing to have, but I think the makers would come to the conclusion that it might just be taking up space...still agood idea nonetheless


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