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Old 10-30-2005, 06:36 PM   #1
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Disicple?

Now I don't want to flame I'm just interested. Why do most people that play Kotor 2 not like disciple? Whats your opinion of him? And why?

I'd just like to know why people don't like him just cause I'm interested cause I quite like him myself
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Old 10-30-2005, 07:08 PM   #2
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Most people don't like his voice.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:05 PM   #3
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Interesting, I thought they didn't like his personality which I loved to tell the truth
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:18 PM   #4
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Hey even us guys hated him for the short time we saw him. Don't know why, we just do. So I made a mod that lets you kill him.

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Old 10-30-2005, 09:54 PM   #5
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He was just..... stupid. I've never thought about why, I just hate him. I hate his face, I hate his voice, I hate his clothes.... I just..... I hate him. With a passion.
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:55 PM   #6
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I love him with passion, lol.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:17 AM   #7
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Those that don't give him a chance are missing a golden opportunity, even with his irritating voice and LS character demeanor, he is a powerful NPC, and really the Handmaiden is a poor replacement for Deciple as he can do so much more.

Though the Handmaiden is easier on the eyes, she just isn't as useful as the Deciple.


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Old 10-31-2005, 01:55 AM   #8
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Hey even us guys hated him for the short time we saw him. Don't know why, we just do. So I made a mod that lets you kill him.
Funny, I don't recall giving you proxy to speak for me.

While I will agree that his demeanor can be a tad obnoxious, his value as a party member more than makes up for it.
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:15 AM   #9
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come to think of it i never really mined the Disiple


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Old 10-31-2005, 06:00 PM   #10
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I realize that he is a valuable companion, but his constant "you have left me an opening!" pissed me off so much I modded his voice to get rid of his bits of dialgue in battle. I would have released it, but then I noticed someone had done it.
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:41 PM   #11
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Yeah, he had very bad dialogue but nothing worth "hating". People throw out the word hate too easily these days...


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Old 10-31-2005, 09:54 PM   #12
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I don't care how useful he is. He sounds annoying, he smells bad, he hasn't changed his underwear in years, and if I had a penny for everytime he says something annoying, I'd be richer than Bill Gates.

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Old 10-31-2005, 09:55 PM   #13
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he smells bad, he hasn't changed his underwear in years
Sounds like you were married to him.


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Old 10-31-2005, 09:57 PM   #14
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Sounds like you were married to him.
Let me rephrase that, he smells like he hasn't taken a bath in decades.

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Old 10-31-2005, 10:05 PM   #15
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You must have a great sense of smell considering HE'S A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER!
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:37 PM   #16
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i just dint like him he sounds kinda not right i would like to use another word but i cant

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HE IS TOO NIEVE FOR HIS OWN GOOD MY GOD HE IS SPOSED TO BE SOME SORT OF SPY GOD DAMMIT


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Old 10-31-2005, 10:48 PM   #17
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I never found the dialogue revealing the fact that he was a Republic Spy. I jsut assumed he was after the transmission he makes to the admiral. When, if at all, is it actually revealed?
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:10 AM   #18
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:52 AM   #19
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You talk to him after the transmission.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:17 AM   #20
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^^ Really? I don't think I've ever talked to him after that mmm... I have to play again. Thanks.

I think it's so funny that people hate Disciple's accent/voice when that is actor Greg Ellis' real voice. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0254862/

I found Disciple very interesting and much more mature than either Atton or Handmaiden and that means alot to me. However, Bao-Dur will always have my heart.

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Also he managed to figure out that the Exile was a wound in the Force, in only a few weeks/months traveling with her and it took the Jedi Council neary ten years to do that


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Old 11-02-2005, 03:48 PM   #21
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I don't like the disciple because he is bliddy nosey.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:24 PM   #22
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I liked the Disciple; VERY much. I found him really interesting if you ask me... I don't understand why do people hate him so much. He is an academic, a scholar and a historian. If you don't like him because he is a "pompous english man" then I think that that is like hating James Bond because he is a woman. (and he isn't )
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:47 PM   #23
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why diciple wasnt in my crew?... i have that crappy goto droid instead... ive just played once, and in the LS
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Old 11-07-2005, 04:02 PM   #24
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I just thought of another reason to hate him: no emotion. Either it's bad writing on OE's part or bad acting on Greg Ellis's part.

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Old 11-07-2005, 05:06 PM   #25
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^He was trained as a Jedi at one point, I think.
The voice actor wasn't bad, the voice just didn't fit the character, IMO.
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Old 11-07-2005, 05:29 PM   #26
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Hey even us guys hated him for the short time we saw him. Don't know why, we just do. So I made a mod that lets you kill him.
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I don't care how useful he is. He sounds annoying, he smells bad, he hasn't changed his underwear in years, and if I had a penny for everytime he says something annoying, I'd be richer than Bill Gates.
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Let me rephrase that, he smells like he hasn't taken a bath in decades.
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I just thought of another reason to hate him: no emotion. Either it's bad writing on OE's part or bad acting on Greg Ellis's part.
You know, it's forbbiden to flame on these Forums.
Just kidding! You really know how to make me laugh.
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:37 PM   #27
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You know, i have no idea why i don't like his character. I got tired of him after 1 minute of talking to him. Thankfully i was playing as a male, so the Handmaiden was already in my service. The Disciple just doesn't show much emotion (none at all actually) and his voice is so annoying. Perhaps the problem is that he always speaks in the same tone and that sounds like he doesn't hold any emotion at all.

The Handmaiden on the other hand was much more convincing. If you listen to her at the Telos Academy and right before you turn her into a Jedi, it is apparent that she sounds changed. She's not the same confused girl anymore that serves a confused Jedi Master. She became independend and strong (inside).

Ok, i'm getting a little too philosophical with this, so i'll stop. But the question still remains: Why don't i like Disciple? Is it because of the things that i've mentioned above, or is it something totally different? The truth is out there.

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Old 11-09-2005, 06:00 PM   #28
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^ The Disciple was supposed to be free of emotion. He was trained as a Jedi for a short period of time, and probably got it from that.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:20 PM   #29
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I don't dislike him but I find him boring. Atton isn't much better with his pazaak, which is about his only conversation subject. Since I installed Achille's "Disciple, Would You Please SHUT UP!" mod, I can say that I clearly prefer Disciple to Atton and he's a much better fighter too.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:56 PM   #30
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^ The Disciple was supposed to be free of emotion. He was trained as a Jedi for a short period of time, and probably got it from that.
Every other Jedi I have ever seen has plenty emotion, so I think he just suffered from having a bad voice actor.

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Old 11-10-2005, 12:13 AM   #31
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I realize that he is a valuable companion, but his constant "you have left me an opening!" pissed me off so much I modded his voice to get rid of his bits of dialgue in battle.
I thought he was saying "you are a lefty and ugly!" I was like WTF?? Ugly enough and lefty enough to die for it?!?! And I can't mod it out....
Another reason to hate Diciple: I can't find out why he hates the jedi and can't cheat my influence to do it.


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Old 11-10-2005, 07:09 AM   #32
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I thought he was saying "you are a lefty and ugly!" I was like WTF?? Ugly enough and lefty enough to die for it?!?! And I can't mod it out....
Another reason to hate Diciple: I can't find out why he hates the jedi and can't cheat my influence to do it.
LMAO! I actually heared him say something like this aswell at the beginning.

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Old 11-10-2005, 09:49 PM   #33
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It took me 3 playthroughs to find out he wasn't saying "You are a lefty and ugly"....


Let's kill ourselves.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:59 PM   #34
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In my opinion, this guy just catches the runs of the mouth too much. Someone get this man some Immodium.

Seriously though, the monotonous tone just puts me to sleep. I want to be entertained, if I wanted to sleep, I wouldn't be playing Xbox.


EDIT: Not to mention the fact he rambles on about nothing for what seems like it could be hours.


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why diciple wasnt in my crew?... i have that crappy goto droid instead... ive just played once, and in the LS
Diciple only joins you if your female. If your male Handmaiden joins you. GOTO joins you no matter what just to drive you crazy.


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Old 11-14-2005, 04:37 PM   #36
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I don't hate Disciple, but I don't exactly like him either. He is too soft-spoken and too...lightsided? I can't quite explain it, it's one of those rare cases when you meet somebody and you instantly dislike them. Never had that happen?
(I just like Atton and Visas much better.)


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Old 11-14-2005, 05:36 PM   #37
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Who is this disciple? can someone give me a pic, cause at this point im totally confused


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