Last of the Mandalorians?

[Justus]

Interesting thing about the mandalorians is they get weaker as time progresses. You see them in the old republic times, in the times of Revan and the Exile and they are still quite formidable, although not quite as dangerous or well organized as they once were - they seem to be wanting their 'former glory' they almost have a college football player mentality about them, wanting the glory days back.

Over time I suppose their training and alot of their history would have been lost, so when you eventually get to the prequel era, Jango is about as close to a mandalorian you can get - he passed it on to his son, and not to mention the countless clones - which have accelerated growth rates which ensures them a quick death anyway. It is interesting to hear Kriea talk about a mandalorian that is 'too easily slain by a Jedi' (or something to that effect) I just wonder if she was referring to Jango when saying that.

Would be interesting to see the mandalorians make a come back in the NJO era.

[Darth_Terros]

The death of the mandalorians as a military force is pretty recent in the starwars universe only about 100BBY it was only till dooku led a bunch of jedi to fight them that nearly all the mandos were wiped out except for Jango fett and Montross.

Oh well seems with Boba now the new mandalore they'll play a bigger part in the LOTF series

[PoiuyWired]

Maybe he will team up with HK47?? now that would be some reenactment.

Granted, Boba seem to be a semi-good guy now, like it or not. I would like to know if he clones any "little boba" though. Yes I know he had at least a daughter, but hey I don't see any female Mandalore. That, and Mandalores are never inherited by blood anyways.

[Canderous_ordo1]

hi all Canderous Ordo here
there is a few things that you dont really get or are too STUPID to get . IN THE CANNONS OF HONOUR CODE.
the mandalorian code for anyone too stupid to know what that is it clearly states in battle the weak perish in other words the mandalorians leave there wounded behind and it also states that every warrior that falls in battle MUST be replaced .taking years to train
and for all those who diddnet know is that mandalorians didnot use medipac or nor they cared for there injurd . and also in kotor if you here canderous story right passed the davik one he does say a bit of info that does releate to the last of the mandalorians. and also mandalorians
ARE NOT FEAMALES there are none GOT IT .
and there tatoos on there arms are which clan they belonged to

[MachineCult]

Originally Posted by Canderous_ordo1

hi all Canderous Ordo here
there is a few things that you dont really get or are too STUPID to get . IN THE CANNONS OF HONOUR CODE.
the mandalorian code for anyone too stupid to know what that is it clearly states in battle the weak perish in other words the mandalorians leave there wounded behind and it also states that every warrior that falls in battle MUST be replaced .taking years to train
and for all those who diddnet know is that mandalorians didnot use medipac or nor they cared for there injurd . and also in kotor if you here canderous story right passed the davik one he does say a bit of info that does releate to the last of the mandalorians. and also mandalorians
ARE NOT FEAMALES there are none GOT IT .
and there tatoos on there arms are which clan they belonged to

You got a source for all that sh*t, kiddo?

[TSR]

then if there are no mandalorian females, how can they..."reproduce"? and then, if they go and find a random woman to "have their way with", then that kid isnt going to be a proper mandalrian... as machinecult said, you got a source for that? anything to back you up with?

[PoiuyWired]

Well, Mira in kotor considers herself a Mandalorian, even though she is just member of a world subjucated by them. Mira seems to be a female, and not a trap.

I don't think beinf male or not have anything to do with Mandalorian membership/clanship, only combat prowness counts.

[MachineCult]

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

Well, Mira in kotor considers herself a Mandalorian, even though she is just member of a world subjucated by them. Mira seems to be a female, and not a trap.

I don't think beinf male or not have anything to do with Mandalorian membership/clanship, only combat prowness counts.

Well that kinda proves you wrong, Canderous_Ordo1.

[darth fmc]

Originally Posted by JediRevan

That's very true. If Jango Fett was the last of the Mandalorians, I guess that's why he agreed to be cloned. But then that would be liike you being cloned and someone saying that you were the last of your line.

jango is not exactle a Mandalorian his perants wer killd by mad Mandalor so he was a slave

Originally Posted by MachineCult

Well that kinda proves you wrong, Canderous_Ordo1.

no ther bothe rite ther wer no female Mandalorians but mira was one so he isent rong

its posadel sith can see into the futer so yer maby


Please, no more triple posts, and learn to spell ~ coupes.

Originally Posted by JediRevan

Actually Mandalore never said who he really was. It was at the end of the game when Kreia revealed it was Canderous. I've played both KOTOR games and I knew from the voice who he really was even with the helmet.

same her its just abit qwiter thats all

[PoiuyWired]

Please, no more triple posts, and learn to spell ~ coupes.

And here comes a double post. Well, it would be nice if you don't multi post, and don't necro old threads.

But yeah mandalorians are a civilation more than a species(or taung or whatever you call it from caruscant) That is why there are non-human mandalorians. It doesn't matter if you are born from mandaorian parents, or just a really tough slave, if you are good enough, you will be accepted. You die in battle if you are week.

Its actually a bit like spartans really, but with a more diverce culture when it comes to pecies and bloodlines. There are few Mandalorian laws, and if you do something bad worse you can recieve would be being sent for the most dangerous battles, where you can actually regain your honor.

Speaking of which, are Death Watch considered Mandalorians? Technically they are a splintered group, and they survive well after the fall of republic.

BTW Jango's fater is a journeyman protector I think, so hardly a slave.
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[darth fmc]

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

And here comes a double post. Well, it would be nice if you don't multi post, and don't necro old threads.

But yeah mandalorians are a civilation more than a species(or taung or whatever you call it from caruscant) That is why there are non-human mandalorians. It doesn't matter if you are born from mandaorian parents, or just a really tough slave, if you are good enough, you will be accepted. You die in battle if you are week.

Its actually a bit like spartans really, but with a more diverce culture when it comes to pecies and bloodlines. There are few Mandalorian laws, and if you do something bad worse you can recieve would be being sent for the most dangerous battles, where you can actually regain your honor.

Speaking of which, are Death Watch considered Mandalorians? Technically they are a splintered group, and they survive well after the fall of republic.

BTW Jango's fater is a journeyman protector I think, so hardly a slave.
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so wat he still wasnt a mandalorian so he wasnt the last one how could he be if he wasnt mandalorian

[PoiuyWired]

What I mean is, Jango's Dad is NOT a slave. Well, a journeyman protector is most likely not a slave.

[darth fmc]

O RITE BUT THAT DUSNT MAKE JANGO A mandalorian tho

[Jurrassco]

Originally Posted by Kurgan

Maybe it means he was born on a certain planet (and that planet no longer exists).

Perhaps the term comes from "Man of the Lore." In their culture there was one man who kept all their stories ("lore") in his mind to repeat them to people for their enjoyment and to pass on the legends. Over time the term got shortened to "Mandalore." Due to the pervasive influence of modern technology the storytelling tradition began to gradually die out, until finally he was the last "Mandalore" (Mandalorian).

Who knows...

well, call me an idiot, I seem to remember seeing on the net that Jango came from Concord Dawn, and that the Mandolorians are a cult. that sound about righ???

btw: I can't imagine Jango, a ruthless bounty hunter, telling stories...

[Jurrassco]

call me a double poster too but I just researched it on the net and it turns out his parents were killed (or abandoned him) and he was "raised by the madalorian warrior army" turns out they were all killed in the jedi civil war, so jango is the last of them...

ps: anyone think the clones are madalorians

[Prime]

You don't need to double post. Use the edit button.

[axel]

mandalorians is a race of aliens and NO jango isnt the last and im not talking about boba im talking about the death watch.... the death watch is his old mandalrian clan i think... he was kicked out and yeah and death watch still exist even dring the period of the origninal trilogy and mandalorains like i said is a race of "aliens" if you would say that...

O and i have played star wars bounty hunter for PS2 wich puts you on as the role of jango and you find this stuff out

[revan_221]

kriea said that "mandalorians would be destroyed until their aromor falls upon a man too easily slain by a jedi" wich apperently points to either jangos death by mace or bobas death by luke so considered to this he was a mandalorian but he was a merc as canderous says in kotor 2 "many of us have fell from honors path" wich points to hundreds of mandalorian mercs after the mandlorian wars

[PoiuyWired]

Well, remember that Kreia's words is her prediction only, and they are words wrapped in HER POINT OF VIEW. So to sum it up:
1) She is good at making predictions, but not infallable, or she would be able to control Exile entirely.
2) Her predictions includes HER POINT OF VIEW.What SHE considers to be the end of mandalorian.
3) SHe is also some manupilative witch.

But yeah, her prediction of the end would be that of Jango. The Luke thing is a bit harder to guess. Plus, Luke is officially a Jedi after his last visit to Yoda?

[revan_221]

i know what you say but in that point kriea WAS telling the future not what she belives for example remember what she said about republics fall "republic will fall but a fall that will take a milleneia" and also kriea is one of my favorite characters all she says is true

[PoiuyWired]

Well, what I mean is that, Kreia can see that THE REPUBLIC WILL FALL, but she may not be able to see HOW it falls, so the FALL that she sees may not be any specific one. And even then the idea of "fall" is subject to her opinion. So she might consider the takeover of Palpy republic's fall (most popular opinion) or that republic is fallen well before then, when the system is corrupted and dysfunctional. Hack, she might even consider the fall to be when the new republic and alliance dies.

So her ability to see the future may be more limited than one can think.

But her prediction is generally right, about the death of republic and Mandalorians, one way or another.

[CLONECOMMANDER501]

I think mandolorian is just a belief, oh, and there are Mandolorian women.


Jango was not a mando[if that is such a race] he was a kid that was captured in a mando raid, so basically he was raised by the mandos.

[PoiuyWired]

Originally Posted by CLONECOMMANDER501

I think mandolorian is just a belief, oh, and there are Mandolorian women.

QFE.

Yes, it is a Belief, culture, lifestyle, etc. That, and Jester the "Mando" that picks him up is quite human (at least he looks that way).And oh, it is not a raid, more like the Fett family is caught between a Mandolorian civil war.

[CLONECOMMANDER501]

Meh.

[Maphisto86]

Originally Posted by CLONECOMMANDER501

I think mandolorian is just a belief, oh, and there are Mandolorian women.


Jango was not a mando[if that is such a race] he was a kid that was captured in a mando raid, so basically he was raised by the mandos.

There are definitley women who are Mandalorian warriors as I have an issue of Star Wars Insider explicitley stating it in text and showing it in pictures in a feature about Mandalorian culture. Im not a "Fandalorian" as such but I think a culture of Fett's is a cool idea and yet another interesting piece of the Star Wars universe.

As far as I know the Mandalorians of ancient times where a alien race of grey skinned beings who where a culture of warriors. Over time they allowed other races to join their forces and way of life until eventually, either through infighting, some natural calamity or simlply cross breeding with other races these original Mandalorians met the same fate as the original Sith people's... their legacy lived on not through race but a way of life or perhaps an ideal. Anyway the Mandalorians since then where warriors who donned impressive armor and lived following the traditions of the ancient clans of their ancestors.

The Wookiepedia article about the Mandalorians sheds more light on the subject.

[CLONECOMMANDER501]

Wow, they even lived to the New sith wars. Impressive

[PoiuyWired]

Originally Posted by DarthMaphisto86

There are definitley women who are Mandalorian warriors as I have an issue of Star Wars Insider explicitley stating it in text and showing it in pictures in a feature about Mandalorian culture. Im not a "Fandalorian" as such but I think a culture of Fett's is a cool idea and yet another interesting piece of the Star Wars universe.

As far as I know the Mandalorians of ancient times where a alien race of grey skinned beings who where a culture of warriors. Over time they allowed other races to join their forces and way of life until eventually, either through infighting, some natural calamity or simlply cross breeding with other races these original Mandalorians met the same fate as the original Sith people's... their legacy lived on not through race but a way of life or perhaps an ideal. Anyway the Mandalorians since then where warriors who donned impressive armor and lived following the traditions of the ancient clans of their ancestors.

The Wookiepedia article about the Mandalorians sheds more light on the subject.

Thanks, finally someone help support my points. And from my memory I think the original species are called Taung or something, and right from the now city covered planet

[Lord XZantor]

Originally Posted by JediRevan

Then why is it stated on one of the Star Wars websites or it might have been wikipedia, that Jango Fett was the last of the Mandalorians????

Wikipedia is not always right, my freind posted something about star trek that wasn't true, and theres many points saying that there were more Mandos. The book Star Wars : Bloodlines is one. The Mandos are on a small part of there homeworld.

[Lord XZantor]

wikipedia not always true. Star wars Bloodlines point to that! LOL

[Scooter16]

Originally Posted by JediRevan

I read somewhere online that Jango Fett was the last of the Mandalorians. If he agreed to have himself cloned then how can he be the last of the Mandalorians?

just bcuz he was cloned doesnt mean his clones are Mandalorians, and if u think about it he is THE LAST Mandalorian, if you count the clones as Mandalorians, they're him arent they?

[adamqd]

There were other Mandalorians who helped train the clones, they were called the Cuy'val Dar...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cuy%27val_Dar

[PoiuyWired]

Well, a few interesting points:

1) The facial features of Taung is unknown at best, what image we get are masked, so Taung can be just another culture of "Known Sentients" in the galaxy to start with.

2) Really, even by the time of Revan/KotOR mandalorians is viewed as a culture/military and such, and consists of more than one species.

[Darth Xander]

Originally Posted by Prime

I guess the question is what defines a mandalorian?

not being a lame bounty hunter who got his heat chopped off

[Rev7]

Was Casuss Fett a mandalorian??? *from KotOR 1* I don't remember the description from his blaster pistol. Is Jango even related to him?? or was that the name just given to him by the mando clan he was raised into??? Anyone?

[PoiuyWired]

This question is similar to asking "Is Jedi/Nungirl Vao decendent of Mission Vao?"

Chances are its too many years and generations in between that a prove is next to impossable to find. Even if they are from the same family they can still be adoptions/cheaters/affairs/etc and what not so there is no proof that they are really related by blood, unless defined specificly by the author.

[Rev7]

thanks, it could be possible though...

[devildog13]

Originally Posted by PoiuyWired

Yes I know he had at least a daughter, but hey I don't see any female Mandalore. That, and Mandalores are never inherited by blood anyways.

Mandalorian culture is just that. a culture. and yes there are mandalorian women. read the rebublic commando books. Jango was in no way the last mandalorian in any sense. simply the most well known. all the clones were trained by ppl that Jango picked. most of those trainers were mandalorian one of which i absolutely know was a woman. the training sergeants that the book follows both know this woman and actually meet up with her in <i>True Colors</i>(the third rebuplic commando book). idk how Jango became mandalorian but i do know that the Null clones under Kal Skirata were adopted by Kal so you can become Mandalorian without bloodlines. the whole culture is based on tactical proficiency so it would make sense that it wouldn't matter to mandalorians what race or gender or species you were. however if there are non-human mandalorians i've yet to hear of them. i'm not saying that there aren't cause i'm sure there are some but i haven't heard of them yet. although in <i>Mandalorian Armor</i> there is mention of an old friend of Boba's who joins a team with Boba on a raid (in the book) who could possibly be mandalorian but idk what he is...

[MachineCult]

Jango Fett is one of the last of the Mandalorians, in the same way that for a time Yoda and Obi Wan were two of the Last of the Jedi.

[devildog13]

except that he really isn't. if there is a last Mandalorian it would be Boba Fett. if you read any of the books there are other Mandalorians besides Jango. and there is still the Mandalorian planet Mandalore. you can't honestly say that a whole world just disappears can you???

[Rev7]

Kreia must have been talking about someone else because we obviously know that Jango wasn't the very last Mandalorian.