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Old 11-03-2005, 07:08 PM   #41
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I agree..playing an alien would be cool.. Thats definately a great option. Also it can change the direction of the story for each race.
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:12 PM   #42
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I would not like the option to play as an alien. Well, if it wouldn't affect gameplay for the humans, I wouldn't really care if the option was there, but if it changed the game at all, I wouldn't like it.


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Old 11-03-2005, 07:32 PM   #43
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Better refrase KOTOR Universe Because in Star Wars universe there are Alien Jedis and most of them seem more powerful than the humans , it is just all the stories are based around us humans
Last time I checked on powerful Jedi, I didn't notice that Luke or Anakin had green skin . Why are they based around humans? Because we ARE humans.

And the problem is as DarthMoeller suggested. It might have to change the story differently for each different species. You would have different storylines, different things that would happen at certain points depending on who you are.
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No aliens for me.. Humans were alway the heroes.
besides im human. I don't want to be a green or worm tailed head being.

But having many choices of Alien NPC's wouldn't hurt



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Old 11-03-2005, 09:57 PM   #45
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NO! i want to be an ali- blast! i for got how to spel! But i don't want to be a human in kotor 3! i want to be alien... i don't no what kind though...
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Old 11-03-2005, 10:38 PM   #46
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And of course, it is not a sex game, but why would a character want a Rodian/whatever anyways?
True, it's not a sex game. And as far as rodians are concerned.... i have the sudden urge to grab a fly-swatter whenever i see one... so i definitely see your point


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Old 11-03-2005, 10:44 PM   #47
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And the problem is as DarthMoeller suggested. It might have to change the story differently for each different species. You would have different storylines, different things that would happen at certain points depending on who you are.
I don't see why the plot would have to change... If I replaced the human Revan of KOTOR1 with a twi'lek, would it actually change anything? He/she was still the dark lord of the sith. Malak still betrayed Revan, and you would still have to escape Taris, run errands on Dantooine, find the star maps, etc. You'd just have head tails instead of hair. *shrug*

Everyone's so worried that adding this one character customization feature will ruin the game's plot or derail the entire story... But the game's plot isn't THAT specific, not down to character gender and not down to character race. The story is the same if you play through male as it is female. The difference is only in your character.


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Old 11-03-2005, 10:54 PM   #48
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I do see your point. It just seems like if aliens were immune to certain things in the story it wouldn't work. But I see your point.
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I do see your point. It just seems like if aliens were immune to certain things in the story it wouldn't work. But I see your point.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:01 PM   #50
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It might be fun to have that choice... I don't see why it could hurt any. A perfect example of how this could work is JA. That game has human Jedi, Twi'lek Jedi, Rodian Jedi, Kel-Dor Jedi... heck, even a Twi'lek Sith! And the big boss for that game is a species I don't recognize... definitely diverse. No reason why Kotor can't have a few aliens, unless you are this guy:

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Old 11-03-2005, 11:04 PM   #51
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LOL! The nut from Taris! Oh... i so wish there had been a dialog option to slap him. That or tell Zaalbar to rip his arms off...


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Old 11-03-2005, 11:50 PM   #52
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And as far as the romance thing goes... anyone ever watch Farscape or the original Star Trek?

List if Cross-Species Couples
-Chiana and D'Argo (Farscape, not Star Wars)
-Crichton and Aeryn (Farscape, not Star Wars)
-Stark and Zhaan (Farscape, not Star Wars)
-Spock's parents (Star Trek, not Star Wars)
-over half the women Kirk seduced (Star Trek, not Star Wars)
-if I were a real jerk I'd do triple this list.



I don't disagree with you though, I'd find it interesting to play as a cool alien (like a Kel-Dor Jedi for example. Always loved those Kel-Dor )
As far as romance would go, you won't have any romance with human characters or females. That's all. Romance or no, will it truly matter that much? Is romance such a necessity to enjoy the game?
You can keep romance options when playing with a human PC and remove them if you're playing an alien PC. Quite easy, everyone is happy.

However, we must be down to earth. I don't believe it will be possible to play as an alien. Star Wars has always been about human heroes fighting human villains (except the NJO, but that's Star Wars for heretics). KOTOR 3 will probably be another fight between humans.


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Old 11-04-2005, 12:11 AM   #53
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Oh, great. Somebody imagine the greatest, most powerful Jedi to be a Jawa. Or worse, that chirping species in KotOR, the species of The Champ.


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Old 11-04-2005, 12:19 AM   #54
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:26 AM   #55
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Romance or no, will it truly matter that much? Is romance such a necessity to enjoy the game?

However, we must be down to earth. I don't believe it will be possible to play as an alien. Star Wars has always been about human heroes fighting human villains (except the NJO, but that's Star Wars for heretics). KOTOR 3 will probably be another fight between humans.
You're right. The romance part isn't important.

And as far as NJO... i don't like the yuuzhan vong at all. Humans make much better villians, but that's not to say i don't mind some alien dark jedi working with them...


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Old 11-04-2005, 12:27 AM   #56
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Oh, great. Somebody imagine the greatest, most powerful Jedi to be a Jawa.
I think a jawa jedi would be fun. Judge jawas by their size, do you? Master Yoda may have a lesson for you... :P

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Old 11-04-2005, 09:10 AM   #57
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Well Young Goddess Your well come ,

And as for everyone else this has been a great discussion I really enjoyed the input but we will all have to see what really happens in KOTOR 3 , I Have a feeling there will not be the option to play as an alien Like Kit Fisto (Nautolan ) Or A Zabrak , but I am sure it will live up to KOTOR Standards , personally I hope it surpassess them when and if it comes out.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:42 AM   #58
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Well Young Goddess Your well come ,
lol trust me lukeiamyourdad is more a horny guy than a goddess

I prefer to play as a human. If they are to include aliens as playable character it will have to be aliens that are not too far from the human race such as Zabraks or Twileks per example. Otherwise, they would have to adapt the storyline quite a bit to fit other races, which they won't do.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:23 AM   #59
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lol trust me lukeiamyourdad is more a horny guy than a goddess

I prefer to play as a human. If they are to include aliens as playable character it will have to be aliens that are not too far from the human race such as Zabraks or Twileks per example. Otherwise, they would have to adapt the storyline quite a bit to fit other races, which they won't do.

Aww come on include a Nautolan too
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:28 PM   #60
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Shush! I'm a horny goddess Very different


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Old 11-04-2005, 04:05 PM   #61
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That avatar looks kinda like a guy. Uhh... maybe? I dunno. I've been wondering whether I should be attracted to the avatar or whether I should run scared. I'm a straight guy, luekiamyourdad, so you tell me: Is that a guy, or a gal?



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That avatar looks kinda like a guy. Uhh... maybe? I dunno. I've been wondering whether I should be attracted to the avatar or whether I should run scared. I'm a straight guy, luekiamyourdad, so you tell me: Is that a guy, or a gal?
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:31 PM   #63
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Aww come on include a Nautolan too
What? Those freakshows?

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Old 11-04-2005, 06:24 PM   #65
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Is that a guy, or a gal?
You're really weird...how you would think it looks like a guy is beyond me...


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Old 11-04-2005, 06:56 PM   #66
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You never know, I mean, with some guys that dress up like girls, and others just have naturally long hair... OK, so it is a gal? OK, my mind is at ease.



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Old 11-04-2005, 07:59 PM   #67
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The definition of a species, in a broad sense, is one that cannot mate with the other.
I vote for playable alien characters, bsides, romance and mating don't necessarily got anything 2 do w/ each other...(besides the example already posted I'm sure we've all watched Star Trek)
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Well you can right, actually. There are some species, who are cool, like the Falleen, or the Kel Dor, Mon Calamori (I like 'em), Nautolan, Kaleesh etc. But still, that would hamper the romantic plotline and that would only mean more and more CDs (unless they get the bright idea of putting it all on a DVD).

My Overall vote: 90% No.


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Old 11-04-2005, 11:26 PM   #69
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I say yes. One of the only reasons I bought that game is because I thought I coulb be an alien.

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Old 11-06-2005, 04:52 PM   #70
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I'd be against this idea. Atleast as long as the KOTOR series remains relatively linear. If it were a more non-linear story then it might be feasible.


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How would linearity affect your character being non-human?

You'd just wouldn't have access to a few options.


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How would linearity affect your character being non-human?

You'd just wouldn't have access to a few options.
When a story is linear, it's usually written to fit a certain character type and thus variations on that character type could make things confusing.

If a game is more wide open and less strict in terms of who the character is, then you can have as many variables as possible.

For instance in K1, the story told was that Revan had to venture to Kashyyyk for one of the Star Maps and the character in doing so had to learn about the Wookiee customs and whatnot. If they allowed for you to be an alien character, ie a Wookiee, then that part of the story would be shot all to hell since you (as a Wookiee) would already know about the strife of the people on Kashyyyk


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that's the exception to the rule. in k1 you could play as a zabrak, duros, twi'lek, mon calamari, nautolan, kel-dor, quarren, bothan, bith, trandoshan, rodian, gamorrean, muun, a little green guy, or hell even a Hutt (though doors might be problematic...) without ever affecting the story. I could still add species in here, but i don't know them all. To some extent or another race is no different than skin color or sex, and last I checked there were several choices of that to pick from in KOTOR...

That's 14 species (not counting the hutt, which was a joke). Most people would be happy with 3 or 4 choices, and modders can usually fill the additional requests (because they're just that awesome).

You could not play Selkath, Wookie, Cathar (but they're wiped out anyway) or Tusken (but tusken is an obvious one).


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ick. Bastila and a Trandoshan Revan, wait I know another one even worse! Bastila and Gamorrean Revan! Vice versa for Carth. More species is what I will say to as No.



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^ Then play as human.


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The easy option with this is to remove the romantic parts when playing with an alien. That isn't too complicated. As long as it's an option, everyone is happy.


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What does everyone have against interspecies romance? It's just a step up from interracial romance, which is fine.

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