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Old 11-21-2005, 04:15 AM   #121
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i say no aliens. It puts too much extra work on the developers to do all the dialogue about other species, alien prejudice, racism. Easier to stick to the one race.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:37 PM   #122
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It could be a massive modding project, though.



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Old 11-21-2005, 06:47 PM   #123
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To play an alien would be interesting but would it be worth all the work if they want to complete the project?
It would be a fun modding project for the daring

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Old 11-21-2005, 06:47 PM   #124
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That's what I meant. RedHawke, can you step up to the plate... again?



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Old 11-21-2005, 06:49 PM   #125
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i say no aliens. It puts too much extra work on the developers to do all the dialogue about other species, alien prejudice, racism. Easier to stick to the one race.
Or we could have less speciesist locations in K3, meaning we wouldn't go to Taris again.

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Old 11-21-2005, 08:46 PM   #126
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^^And as I recall there is only one racist convo in K2.


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Old 11-21-2005, 09:34 PM   #127
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^^And as I recall there is only one racist convo in K2.
Yet, in that one, the Jedi Council is all Caucasian Human, unlike K1, which had one Caucasian Human, one Black Human, one Twi'Lek, and one of whatever Yoda is.

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Old 11-21-2005, 09:40 PM   #128
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Well, the game designers are humans, after all. I'm all for promoting our race vs. a race that doesn't exist. Also, there are plenty of aliens, and there are planets where humans are not the main race.



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Old 11-21-2005, 10:17 PM   #129
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Ok, don't know if anyone possed this idea, but if there is a particular love interest like in KOTOR 1, why not have the PC race also determine the race of the Love interest character, or charaters if there is more than one like KOTOR 2? Or maybe have a more diverse party and that determines the love interest..... I would personally like to be able to be a Jedi Wookie or Jawa.
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:02 AM   #130
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^^^I don't think that you should limit romantic interest on species.
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Yet, in that one, the Jedi Council is all Caucasian Human, unlike K1, which had one Caucasian Human, one Black Human, one Twi'Lek, and one of whatever Yoda is.
So a group of white people is instantly racist? I don't see that as discrimination.


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Old 11-22-2005, 12:14 AM   #131
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Old 11-22-2005, 12:25 AM   #132
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^^Its hard to tell with TSL's graphics. I decided to say that she had a good tan.


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Old 11-22-2005, 12:38 AM   #133
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I don't think you should limit the love interests either, but a lot of people's objection is "feasibility" I guess. So that would be a good way around it to me.... Anyways, I would say that just because the Handmaiden, Visa, Madalore and the main character all look human, doesn't mean they are anymore similar than a human and a Twi'leks. The planets the different people are from are so far spread it's unlikely they are identical in anatomy....
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Old 11-22-2005, 01:20 AM   #134
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That's what I meant. RedHawke, can you step up to the plate... again?
*Looks Around Nervously* Who? What? Where? Why? How?

I believe both the Holowan Plugins for KOTOR and TSL have a ton of playable Aliens, I only play Humans and the occasional Twilek when I play!


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Old 11-22-2005, 01:27 AM   #135
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I don't know about you, but I like to play as my own species.

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Old 11-22-2005, 01:38 AM   #136
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And who can picture a lightsaber-wielding Gamorrean in black robes?
I can picture his carcas on a spit over a fire being slowly rotated whilst my Rancor pet waits for his meal!

Gamorrean the other green meat!

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Old 11-22-2005, 04:05 PM   #137
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I can picture his carcas on a spit over a fire being slowly rotated whilst my Rancor pet waits for his meal!

Gamorrean the other green meat!

*Flees from thread before getting pelted with tomatoes*
Interesting picture but I bet a Wookie would have bad breath after spit roasted Gamorreans

Hey you want a leg or an arm? I'd go for the ham hocks

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Old 11-23-2005, 12:34 PM   #138
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There is one way to keep use both happy

A way you lot have totaly forgot is that if you chose to play as an alien. And the spiecis you are would make it stupid to romance a human. The game just dosent give you the option to click on it to start the flirting etc. But personaly i always wanted to pull a twi'lek female
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Old 11-23-2005, 02:15 PM   #139
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A way you lot have totaly forgot is that if you chose to play as an alien. And the spiecis you are would make it stupid to romance a human. The game just dosent give you the option to click on it to start the flirting etc. But personaly i always wanted to pull a twi'lek female
We haven't forgot. It's just humor. Can you imagine kissing a twi'lek if you were human or the other way around?

*Thinking about it*

I don't really see it happening. Besides it would take more work on the part of the devs to create one alien PC. Maybe you should try it as a modding project.

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Old 11-23-2005, 10:46 PM   #140
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If they did alien races as well, couldn't they just have the game select a random PC head of the opposite sex for that race to be used as the head for the love interest?
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:43 AM   #141
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But then the danger is that story elements involving those characters would have to be more generic and less in depth to accomidate no knowing what the player will choose.

Besides, alien sex is gross!

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Old 11-24-2005, 10:51 AM   #142
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...but personaly I always wanted to pull a Twi'lek female...
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...alien sex is gross...
Quoted for irony, and for a lack of the thought process being taken all the way to the logical conclusion.

Star Wars is not rated X, and it never will be. You will never see even two humans having sex. The closest we've gotten is Ep. III where Padme gives birth to twins (very unrealistically, too). Yes, reproduction is a fact of life. Are the SW characters real? Do they need to eat? To drink? If you answered yes to any of those questions, you need to take a walk in the brisk, cool air of morning. The characters say only what actors say, do what programmers tell them to do. They don't need to eat or drink because they aren't *alive*.

That's my 2¢.



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Old 11-24-2005, 02:01 PM   #143
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StaffSaberist, your taking this thread way to seriously. Maybe you should take that walk through the brisk, cool morning air.


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Old 11-24-2005, 02:40 PM   #144
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I shouldn't even give that the attention I'm about to, but...

This thread was meant to be a serious discussion. Where do you see this in the thread:

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Oh, man, that's great! Alien PC's! ROFL! Hahaha!
Nowhere.

Sorry to burst your bubbles, but we appear to actually be talking about whether it's a good idea or not. Love interests is a trivial matter, but one that deserves attention. The idea of interracial sex is not deserving of a glance. This thread was not intended to be a joke. If I appeared to be flamebaiting, or flaming, sorry. Didn't mean it that way. But come on, was sex even an issue in KotOR I? Or II? The answer has to be no.

Before you become a smart-alek and tell me that of course sex was an issue, don't want a male PC to fall in love with Carth and Bastila. That's gender, in this case, not sex.

I don't want a flame war, here. It'll be the end of this thread. But it seems ridiculous that we would even have that in KotOR. Do you really want a 'Hot Coffee' mod in KotOR III? If so, make it yourself. I'm not interested.



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Old 11-24-2005, 04:12 PM   #145
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The issue was the playing as an alien

The issue is that a large number off pepole would like the Choice to play as an alien without needing to mod the game e.g jedi academy. It made no diffrence to that game what race you played as in that. And to be honest i dont agree that the romance issue is much off an issue at all. Because even the romance in kotor between Reven & bastila/Carth was never much more than flirting. And lets be honest only just enhanced the storyline slightly. And none off use whant interactive sex exspicaly in starwars .

But the topic is playing as an alien which personaly im all for.How many off use read review's off kotor 1/2 and read that haveing the choice would have been good. I know i did

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Old 11-24-2005, 04:37 PM   #146
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:44 PM   #147
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OK, I never said it wasn't an issue, the romance thing. I meant it was trivial compared to the plot of the story. OK, that aside, if the romance is the only thing in the way, then it would probably have been wise of me to stick to my guns early on and say Yeah, aliens are fun to play as. (I know, I'm flip-flopping like John Kerry.) And when I said "Mod it in", I was referring to the issue of sex, not romance.

Anyway, um... *Raises hands in air* Please don't flame me! I'm too sick to ar - ar - AR-GUE! (achoo).



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Old 11-24-2005, 07:54 PM   #148
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Dont worry about it

saberstaff dont worry about it. i think everone got kind off carrerd away with this thread. It's just that alot off people think it was something that the game was missing and its not just the romance issue that caused problems with the idea off haveing alien Pc. Thats just the one everone seamed to focus on LOL And yeah i know what you ment by ''Mod it in'' i just dont what that ether. I think in the most part we all agree Aliens good Alien sex bad LOL
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Old 11-24-2005, 07:59 PM   #149
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What does everyone have against interspecies romance? Boba Fett's wife wasn't the same species as him, Rystall's half-human, and some Ishi Tib women were sexually attracted to Luke Skywalker in Dark Nest I. So I say, if it can happen in the movies, the books, and the comics, it can happen in the games.

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Old 11-24-2005, 08:15 PM   #150
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Yeah i know

Yeah i know it can happen in the books, movies etc . But the main issue is not that Alien romance /sex Whatever. That was just an issue people brought up to say that it would be difficult to play as an alien. Everone seams to have got off topic here. i think someone should start a thread about alien Romance because thats what this thread kina turned into.
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Not with a Twilek hottie!


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Old 11-25-2005, 04:39 PM   #152
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Oh, man, that's great! Alien PC's! ROFL!
There, StaffSaberist, someone has said it. It's no longer a serious discussion.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:56 PM   #153
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*Sigh* OK, it's not a serious discussion. Therefore, nobody's arguements have any merit.



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Unhappy im diapionted

It's not that ayones arguements had any merit. Its just that it was not to do with this particular thread. It was an issue that was compoundinding into a throurough issue nothing to do with the issue rased with this thread. And we are told not to change subject from the moderters. So we have to keep on topic. People were makeing this more than it was ment to be. Thats all.

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Old 11-25-2005, 11:50 PM   #155
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What I said was a joke, kind of. If this was humor, then nobody can be taken seriously. But you are correct, we do need to either get back on topic, or have it closed.



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Old 11-29-2005, 03:51 PM   #156
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Everyone calm down. If you think about it in the original films, the hero/oes were human with the exception of Chewbacca and the droids, if you would call the droids heroes. (Personally they are comic relief).
Anywhos if the heroes were human, it would make sense that the main PC in the games be human. Wouldn't it? Think about it.

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Old 11-29-2005, 06:31 PM   #158
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Hell, the way I see it is that if there can be a Nautolan/Twi'lek relationship and a Bothan/Human relationship in the EU already, why would it affect anything majorly for the game?

I'd embrace the idea of playing as a different species (one of my favourite things about Jedi Academy) especially if it marks differences in class, etc. Brilliance.


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I just can't see it.

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and y would you want to have love and stuff if your a dark lord its a weekness i would sooner crush my companions if i was alowd to

anyway i think being a wookie would be fun you would scare alot of enemys

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