NeoMarz's Ultimate Clone Pack VM

NeoMarz1 · 11-06-2005, 01:02 PM

O.k., so its been awhile. Ive been picking around one of my old clone models. I never was totally happy with it when I released it, but now, I think I have made enough improvements over the other to make it my next project. The Body is a total revamp, but I will hold on to the jetpack, kilt, classic helmet. My plan is to make a skin and varient for as many different clones as possible. I will do a all varients for both classic and new clones. Possible varients, clone commando, new commandos, snipers, pilots, engineers, Commanders, different factions .... well you get the idea. This may take awhile, so be patient.

Zappa_0 · 11-06-2005, 01:05 PM

Awesome!!!! Can I help you with those skins, since ive already done alot of skins of ur old ep2 clones?

monsoontide · 11-06-2005, 04:08 PM

Looks intersting, but that Original Clone helmet seems REALLY "wide" for want of a better word...

RinkXing · 11-06-2005, 05:42 PM

Marz, I was actually going to suggest this seeing as you have made ep2 clones but you've thought ahead lol.

Awesome man, simply amazing, your clones were top quality and I can imagine these will be too.

Good Luck, if you need any help with anything like sounds or reference pictures, I'll be happy to help.

NeoMarz1 · 11-06-2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zappa_0

Awesome!!!! Can I help you with those skins, since ive already done alot of skins of ur old ep2 clones?

I may need your help. Ill let you know. Marzout

Zappa_0 · 11-06-2005, 08:35 PM

ok cool.

odysseus · 11-07-2005, 12:30 AM

The worst part of your original clone model was the chestplate being a seperately modelled and textured mesh from the rest of the torso. Please resolve that in this release, it will make it much easier to reskin.

Also, the textures on the original were lackluster at best. There was a "grimey" look about them, and they were far too grey. Giving the textures scratches and dirt is always good, but they are at the base white.

Selek · 11-07-2005, 09:44 AM

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

Sry had to scream

Thx marz, I was going to ask you too

Hope Model will go well before Hap finishs his one xD J/K Haps and IBs Clones will still take while

Good luck, Neomarz

ACE! · 11-07-2005, 11:11 AM

sweet

nice start marz.

Darth Stryke · 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM

Awesome helmet! Looks like more clones are on the way!

*Lathain Valtiel* · 11-07-2005, 04:07 PM

All I'm going to ask is this.

Please make normal team colors and don't weigh it for JO. That last one especially irks me, as you released your old clones as JA compatible when in fact they had the dual bug.

Zappa_0 · 11-07-2005, 08:45 PM

Im sure he will be making them for JA since thats all he models for these days and the most popular game of the two.

Tesla(DF) · 11-08-2005, 03:32 AM

Well well well, the man that inspired me to mod, join the Dark Forces MOD, skin, and model.

1 request, make the waistcoat a FLAT PLANE, so one can apply an alpha channel shader to it... without it looking hallow...

I'd like to publically announce in this thread that Dark Forces MOD Tesla is making an ARC Trooper specific Model...

Hap-Marz-Tes
Who shall make the better clone...

=/ oh yea, and my helmets visor is recesed

Also, I suppose I could lend a hand shader wise if you need some of that help. Just because we both work towards a goal doesn't mean we can't enjoy each others rewards. I know that your Detail shader you are a bit famous for OVERUSING lags my ATI card to pieces, as Specualar shaders may not have that oh so wonderful chromey sheen, they don't lag me at all.

Out of respect, gratitude and love for your work, I will not post images of my half done model.

<3

Instead I show you my reskins sir. May the force be with you.

TormenT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/shot0044.jpg

Tesla
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/shot0064.jpg

Xirin Kenebra
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/shot0058.jpg

Move Battles 2 MOD Build 17 Realistic Colors and Rank ARC Troopers

Dark Horse Comics Default ARC/My interpretation/Basically a redone ARC Trooper you made :P
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/bf2b7166.jpg

Battlefront Blue-Soldier ARC Trooper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/fce276f0.jpg

Battlefront Red-Captain ARC Trooper (A friend gave me the textures so I could get colors, apparantly this one didn't make it to the finished game)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/a1610e86.jpg

Interpretation of the once seen ARC Commander, I felt that ARC Troopers have softer colors, the Red is a crimsony shade, the blue is practically asking to be black/gray I thought the yellow would do best as a Maize color
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...m/2d63c56f.jpg

VERY Old, as a matter of fact, one could say I learned everything I know about shaders and skinning from your model.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ekim/tesla.jpg

Tesla(DF) · 11-09-2005, 03:41 PM

I take some of that back, using my astoundishly accurate resources, I would like to abandon my *make a clone model just so I can add all imaginable ARC Trooper gear* craze, and request, I am allowed to model the ARC Trooper gear, all types of it for you.

*Kurgan* · 11-09-2005, 10:51 PM

I agree with Lath.

Also double check what happens to models when you use Force Speed. I've seen for example a Fett model that suddenly has a huge "phantom jetpack" (the arc trooper action figure style that looks like a mini-helicopter) on his back... or Yoda who loses his hair, or Vader who loses his mask... all when using Force Speed!

PS: the "central dark line" (for lack of a better term) on the helmet looks too thick (at least to me). On Fett's helmet it's pretty wide, but I'm sure in AOTC it was much thinner and came ot a point, but check some DVD screencaps to be sure.

Buffy · 11-10-2005, 08:24 AM

when can I have this model pack ?
send me asap I will take screenshot so ...

Tesla(DF) · 11-10-2005, 12:20 PM

I would have experience with the GIANT JETPACK thing

I had been trying to figure that out for a while.

When you have dismemberment on and die, the game doesn't re-read the SURF file. Answer: Delete surf files, and change ,clear to ,*off in the .skin files.

NeoMarz1 · 11-10-2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurgan

I agree with Lath.

Also double check what happens to models when you use Force Speed. I've seen for example a Fett model that suddenly has a huge "phantom jetpack" (the arc trooper action figure style that looks like a mini-helicopter) on his back... or Yoda who loses his hair, or Vader who loses his mask... all when using Force Speed!

PS: the "central dark line" (for lack of a better term) on the helmet looks too thick (at least to me). On Fett's helmet it's pretty wide, but I'm sure in AOTC it was much thinner and came ot a point, but check some DVD screencaps to be sure.

The problem was that I decided to ".surf" those extra parts, and that caused problems on the multiplayer side... Well single player too. This wont be an issue for this model, because each model will be a model of its own. Every varient will be imported using its own player folder. This will make everyone happy. I also do plan on using the alpha channel on the Arcs skirt. Right now I have pretty much finished the base skin, so I will try to send these out to Zappa or whomever wishes to add to the pack. I cant promise everyone will be able to help on this, but as I get closer it should be apparent how much help I will need. Yes the model will be weighted for Academy. Thanks for your interest, and everyone shouldnt be too disappointed.

I just finished modeling the head for the Clone Commando, so things are moving along. Marzout!

Tesla(DF) · 11-10-2005, 11:38 PM

Mr. Marshall, I don't want to sound like a prat, but if you just change ,clear to ,*off there won't be any problems.

Separate folder Idea is cool, but haveing 40 model.glm files in a pk3 is farfetched >.>

-S- · 11-11-2005, 12:22 PM

Mars would you include long or short version of DC-15 (the clone rifle) with these models?

NeoMarz1 · 11-11-2005, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tesla(DF)

Mr. Marshall, I don't want to sound like a prat, but if you just change ,clear to ,*off there won't be any problems.

Separate folder Idea is cool, but haveing 40 model.glm files in a pk3 is farfetched >.>

Well there wont be 40 different models. Maybe something like 4 or 5 with the color varients.... well maybe more, but nothing like 40.

I had problems with the *off line, for whatever reason it didnt work for me on either the single or the multiplayer (cant remember)... at any rate I abandoned that for some reason. I may give it a shot again, and see what happens. Marzout

Tesla(DF) · 11-11-2005, 09:20 PM

Hey, can I have some sort of IM info so I can contact you about modelling the ARC Trooper gear for you? There are 2 different variants, and 3 with ranks. the head_gogs,*off thing does work BTW. But I think Surf is fine for JK2

I am also willing to weight this, and help you work on your UVW mapping skills *laughs at clonehips texture and how it looks hideous inside the legs*

Ruku · 11-11-2005, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tesla(DF)

Hey, can I have some sort of IM info so I can contact you about modelling the ARC Trooper gear for you? There are 2 different variants, and 3 with ranks. the head_gogs,*off thing does work BTW. But I think Surf is fine for JK2

I am also willing to weight this, and help you work on your UVW mapping skills *laughs at clonehips texture and how it looks hideous inside the legs*

I don't know if it's intentional... but you come off as really arrogant; such an attitude won't get you far, as you can see by the lack of replies to all your posts.

NeoMarz - If you are posing the offer, I'd like to help out with the clone's textures. Whichever you want, it's fine with me.

Zappa_0 · 11-12-2005, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruku

I don't know if it's intentional... but you come off as really arrogant; such an attitude won't get you far, as you can see by the lack of replies to all your posts.

I agree. It is kinda annoying, if he wants your help im sure he will ask. If he doesnt then continue on doing what you do.

Zappa_0 · 11-12-2005, 06:43 PM

Hey Marz ive found something cool you might wanna add to your clones:

RevanSithLord · 11-12-2005, 10:17 PM

Now Zappa, that would be freakin cool! Marz, ya gotta put those in, lol. Especially Bacara, we need him. And...yea, hopefully you are gonna put those in. :P

Neon · 11-13-2005, 03:24 AM

Is there also a clone pilot included in the pack?
Btw, it looks great.

RevanSithLord · 11-13-2005, 03:25 PM

Possibly Neon, we may never know.

Tesla(DF) · 11-13-2005, 07:24 PM

Sorry if I came off as arrogant, I'm not here to start anything negative here.

It's just, I'm a kid, I'm not well known I love this guy, and I don't want to be the poor fool that gives the JA community a 5th clone model. I guess I'm a bit anxious and over-enthusiastic =D.

501st Trooper · 11-15-2005, 03:49 PM

I think he should do a normal 1 a blue 1 a red 1 and a arc and then people will reskin it :/

*El Sitherino* · 11-15-2005, 06:01 PM

Except the ep3 clones no longer have ARC versions.

It's grunts and commandos.

Dilandau-Sama · 11-15-2005, 06:56 PM

Will you do a 501st trooper version?

501st Trooper · 11-16-2005, 12:18 PM

LOL YEAH WE NEAD ONE LOL

Zyar · 11-16-2005, 02:59 PM

If he doesn't you can make the 501st skin yourself. Theres no difference in it exept armor paint.

Tesla(DF) · 11-16-2005, 04:32 PM

My iterpretation of his original post is, yea he's making ALL Clones.

501st Trooper · 11-17-2005, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zyar

If he doesn't you can make the 501st skin yourself. Theres no difference in it exept armor paint.

yeah we can as log as its a jka skeloten

i can emagen a army of them

Neon · 11-17-2005, 02:22 PM

why wouldn't it be a jka skeleton?

-S- · 11-17-2005, 02:29 PM

who said it wouldnt be? joo misunderstood methinks

LightNinja · 11-17-2005, 02:42 PM

why dont you wait till he post the progress instead of asking or talking about useless things?

NeoMarz1 · 11-17-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightNinja

why dont you wait till he post the progress instead of asking or talking about useless things?

Well here is where I am at... Skinning the small parts, I had a small vacation this last weekend, so i'm set back a little. I will consider as many clone varients as I think I can handle. Even the one in that cool comic strip, posted above. We will see, this is a bit taxing to try and get them all in, but a possible endever. By the way Ninja... I'm sorry I havent gotten back with you on that project we were talking about, I'll let you know if I decide to do more on that. Marzout!

shouldnt be to much longer till things start pulling together. No screens yet, keep checking. Marzout again...