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Old 11-12-2005, 01:39 AM   #1
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Question Overly Emotional? [Spoilers]

Ok maybe its just me, but I was wondering if anyone else had the same experiences I did when playing KotOR for the first time.

1) I got highly upset when I lost Bastila on the Leviathan. (I thought she
was gone for good.)
2) I almost cried (well I did a little) when Malak actually gave his
short speech and died.
3) I felt amazingly guilty when I went back to my temple save game
and played it out as dark side (Like I was doing something
wrong.)
4) I did cry when Vandar looked at Dodonna and said "No! Bastila is using
her battle meditation against us!

There were other instances that I don't remember offhand and playing
through several times later some things still get to me. Maybe I'm
just a lil too emotional?


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Old 11-12-2005, 01:43 AM   #2
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Well, that's a well made game for you. Remember the shock players get when they realise that they are Revan? I even worried about Trask and hoped he'd make it out alive somehow. But then I figure out that he's dead so I always kill Bandon to avenge him, despite my lightsidedness.

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Old 11-12-2005, 01:47 AM   #3
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I got pretty guilty with my DS exploration too. But for the most part, it was more shade of emotion, rather than all out. With TSL, it was more pronounced (but I pretty much lived that game for 4 solid days, where I put of a tent blanket around my PC to keep out all light save my monitor, and effectively depriving myself of all sensory input save given by TSL. Needless to say, I had interesting dreams during those 4 nights).

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Old 11-12-2005, 02:10 AM   #4
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Well,
If K1 was food I think it would be safe to say the first week I played it I was craving it 24/7

I got very emotional (not crying, more the emotion the devs want you to feel) at the end in both LS an DS situations, though I liked the feeling the DS ending gave me more I also really got "involved" with the game so-to-speak at the final battles on
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The Star Forge with Vandar, and Malak, and Bastila, etc.
The cutscenes made me feel like I was really in one of the films with my PC fighting the forces of evil, (or causing it).


TSL never really did anything for me, the characters I never really got to know well and the really strong parts of the game I was only somewhat convinced. I did like the parts where you saw some
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of your old party members, like Carth and Bastila
but the rest of the game never really got to me the way K1 did.


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Old 11-12-2005, 06:01 AM   #5
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true that, well made game at all. only point I got upset in was when Bastila got taken by Malak. well maybe the Revan revealling part as well... for a while there I thought Bastila was Revan XD



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Old 11-12-2005, 07:18 AM   #6
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I felt like crap when my persuade failed and i had to kill bastila on the star forge. And i have still never managed to play through as dark side, I feel like too much of an ass. Every time i start i either turn to the light or quit.


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Old 11-12-2005, 08:08 AM   #7
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Don't worry i was a bit emotional too. Seeing Bastila sacrifice herself to save me on the Leviathan then viewing the clip of her being tortured really got to me. And when we see her on the Unkown world and she reveals that she's fallen, i felt crushed, like it was my fault. But when you finally turn her back its very uplifting.

I think that the fact it draws so many emotions from you is a sign of a great game and great story, something i thought was lacking in TLS just didn't feel the same about any of the characters.
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:31 AM   #8
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3) I felt amazingly guilty when I went back to my temple save game
and played it out as dark side (Like I was doing something
wrong.)
Yeah, The first time I did that I felt awful. Especially after I invested so much emotionally in those characters after completing their side-quests.

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Old 11-13-2005, 02:03 AM   #9
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I played DS once. Never got past Dantooine. One, it was too much, having to kill those innocents. I got a little emotional on Taris ("you're robbing me?" from an elderly man) and I just couldn't take it. Maybe I'm a big wuss, but I can't stand the Dark Side. Besides, do they have to make you ugly if you go DS?



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Old 11-13-2005, 02:42 AM   #10
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I played DS once. Never got past Dantooine. One, it was too much, having to kill those innocents. I got a little emotional on Taris ("you're robbing me?" from an elderly man) and I just couldn't take it. Maybe I'm a big wuss, but I can't stand the Dark Side. Besides, do they have to make you ugly if you go DS?

I'm like you man, except that I managed to complete on DS many times. There's just some things I can't do. Some DS options are kind of funny but robbing a poor widow or some sick old man is just wrong man. Just wrong...

This is the thing I love about KotOR. It causes lots of emotions.


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Old 11-13-2005, 03:27 AM   #11
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Yeah,you get all ugly if you go DS. Instant phail.

K1 invoked a lot of emotions in me too, mostly at the end. Fighting Bastila and the whole coversation with her and trying to save her was touching, then the fight with Malak with the music and the scenery was just incredible. I remember one game were, as Malak was about to die the music reached it peak right as he said his last few words. Amazing.


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Old 11-13-2005, 05:01 AM   #12
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when i say bandon i wanted to kill him Cause of trask
i freaked out when i found out who revan was i cant do spoilers so i will be vauge
fighting bastila i couldnt do it

tsl wasnt that good i dint feel close to the characters like i did in kotor 1

im lightsided i cant stand doing something evil for ever ds point i have to do 5 or 6 good points


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Old 11-13-2005, 05:25 AM   #13
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i also had trouble redoing the temple as DS...after i finished what needed to be done there, i didn't want to face the "what happened?" conversation with Carth, so I gave up instead. =\ I still haven't tried to make it through the game all DS.

my most emotional moment by far in the two games was the fall of Atris my first time through TSL. i was in complete disbelief. even though i was a lightsider i was so angry i killed her without an offer of redemption and no hesitation...and then immediately felt like a horrible person. =D


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Old 11-13-2005, 09:32 AM   #14
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:44 AM   #15
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I could never do dark side. Once, on light side, I threatened the Ithorian who had HK. Bastila sounded so dissapointed I reloaded.

Things that choked me up in K1, in no particular order:

1) When Bastila finds out her dad is dead.

2) Carth's son.

3) Taris being destroyed.

4) You're Reven.

5) Dantooine destroyed.

6) The whole ark after Bastila gets captured.

7) Malak's death.

There were other things that made me emotional but those were the heavyweights.


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Old 11-13-2005, 10:29 AM   #16
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There is no emotion...

j/k. I'm surprised noone did that yet. If I do play DS, I skip all dialog, and even then it seems wrong.

When I found out I was Revan... oh, geez. I read a walkthrough, and I thought Malak was playing a Sith mind trick forcing you to act like Revan, then say "I'm not Revan anymore..." so they would know the trick was over. When I realized it was true...



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Old 11-13-2005, 03:10 PM   #17
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Geez no one can do DS? After I played LS I just loved the slaughter, running into the fight and killing, the robbing people. Does that mean I'm a bad person?


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Old 11-13-2005, 03:27 PM   #18
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No, it means you don't take the game too seriously. Yet.

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:00 PM   #19
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yes get out now b4 u end up shooting yourself like this * points gun at own head and smiles and yells dam you kotor dam you to hell !!! followed by a loud pop and an erire silence*


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Old 11-13-2005, 07:44 PM   #21
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I always felt a little guilty with the prospect of killing the jedi masters in TSL. Aside from Vrook. >_>

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Yeah, I was pissed and sad at the same time when Taris was destroyed. That was probably the biggest emotional blow KotOR dealt me. It also gave me great reason to play LS and kick Malak's rump.

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:59 PM   #22
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I was actually happy when Taris was destroyed, because it guaranteed i wouldn't have to deal with it a second time in that game =D (my apologies to Juhani, of course)

Killing the Jedi masters feels like a hollow victory each time...the worst for me was Kavar. I'd never liked Vrook and I'm pretty indifferent about Zez Kai-Ell...but Kavar has that whole friend vibe going on that I'd gotten really used to, so when i finally played DS i felt like i was betraying his trust.


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Old 11-13-2005, 08:03 PM   #23
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Yeah, same here. I felt bad for Atris when I confronted her. Fortunately, I was playing LS, so I let her be. Even so, some of the DS options were interesting, to say the least. Like leaving her to the holocrons...

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Old 11-13-2005, 09:18 PM   #24
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K1:
- The whole Leviathan scene was excellent and i felt like i'm really there
- Everything involving Bastila on UW and Star Forge. Going light side was rewarding, but going DS was much more exciting.

I never played Dark Side throughout the entire game. I was light side a couple of times, but i prefer playing neutral. Face it, some of those schuttas deserved a DS response.

K2:
- The meeting with Atris. That academy had a certain cold feel about it.
- The meeting with the Jedi on Dantooine was really emotional (LS)
- The closer i was to Nihilus, the more excited i was (especially because i buffed him up a bit :d)

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Old 11-13-2005, 10:00 PM   #25
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:20 PM   #26
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For most of the thing you mentioned, you did get too emotional, IMO.
But when I reloaded to see what would happen if I joined Bastila, I felt so guilty about killing Jolee and Juhani that I couldn't play DS any further for a long time. It wasn't until a later play-through that I learned you could also kill Mission and Zalbaar.
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When I play a female PC I use to pick up the chracter that resembles me the most physically and I just can't go DS (did it once and felt very bad about it). In fact, the only way I can play DS is by picking a PC of the opposite sex so it looks very different from me: it looks more like a movie to me and I feel less involved (still robbing that poor woman on Tatoine feels really cheap, no matter how I am playing)
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The player I always choose is similar to my favorite teacher of all time. And, Doc, I said I got a little emotional on Taris. And the feeling I got when I realized I was Revan was shock, augmented by my misinterpretation of a Walkthrough (It said, "You will see movies which are supposed to show you are Revan"...) and I was going through a natural teen mood swing. It sucked to have mood swings like that, but it happened. And it made DS impossible. So, out of habit, I still go LS, with a single exception: The Bendak Duel on Taris. No pity for that Mandalorian, esp. since b/c of an exploit/bug, you could get 2 Bendak Blasters! And I still got LS Mastery by the 2nd planet.



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Old 11-14-2005, 12:44 AM   #29
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I started my first ds game about a month ago planning to play full ds all the way through. I keep having to use adddarkside xx because I manage to gain ls points. (Some ds character I am.) I did 3 planets I think and abandoned the game. I doubt I ever will finish it. Playing ls comes natural to me and ds doesn't. Sometimes I had to actually focus on the fact that I was trying to play ds. I never had a problem clobbering the sith or anything, it was those devious things - like when you let Shaardan kill the academy wannabes.
Btw: I know this was another devious and low thing to do, but the single funniest thing in the game to me was when you tell the sith prospect outside the academy that Mekel said his final test was to attack the sith guard. I laughed hard Oh well.

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Fortunately KT's a grey jedi in that regard

I kinda saw Trask coming, so the first suprise for me was when the family started asking why you're robbing them, I was like "uhhh, I'm supposed to, right? isn't that what it's there for?" I liked how the story challenged the gameplay design there


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Nobody's ever asked me... are you talking about the X-Box version?



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I kill Bendak as well but I do it to fulfil the bounty, which Carth says is okay and the journal says you ended his reign of terror. You still get DS points though, I think thats a bug.


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Not a bug. You are killing someone for money in an illegal death match.



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Which quest is that? There are many DS and LS quests. Or do you mean the game in general?



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Not a bug. You are killing someone for money in an illegal death match.
No, I'm exicuting a goverment contract on a known murderer and all round bad apple. Besides when you talk about bounties Carth says its okay. I'm not saying you should get light side points or anything.


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People can be wrong, you know. The Jedi hold all life sacred, even that of a Sith Lord. Bendak is an ignorant, arrogant fool, and a murderer, but he is not actually evil, he is looking for a challenge, like all Mandalorians. You gave it to him, and had the chance to spare his life. You didn't. Not to mention the fact that the method you had for... executing... that contract was an illegal one. Ajuur had to bribe a lot of people to allow this to happen. Bribery to allow death is wrong.

No, you shouldn't gain LSP for it, but considering all of that, you should get a little DSP. You don't get hit that hard on Taris, and you still can achieve LS Mastery. I play that duel every game, and I still have Mastery by the Laviathan.



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Old 11-16-2005, 12:41 PM   #39
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I memorized a LS walkthrough, and added LSP as I could. I get all possible LSP in the game.



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