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Old 11-13-2005, 06:18 PM   #1
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Hero Assault on Hoth?

Check out this pick: http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theed2hk.jpg

I find it rather interesting......


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Old 11-13-2005, 06:26 PM   #2
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what do you find interesting?


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what do you find interesting?
Hero Assault on Hoth. Thats interesting!? Have you played it?

Can i see Han Solo holding a purple lightsaber?



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Old 11-13-2005, 08:13 PM   #4
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Wow, I guess someone figured out how to make other maps Hero Assault maps. They better tell us how to do it, I want to see a Mustafar: Assault map!


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Looks like the hex editing of SWBF2 has begun.

In SWBF1 people figured out how to change the classes you can choose (swapping in npc's and jedi as playable for example).

They obviously edited Hoth to become a Hero Assault mission (check the HUD... no lightsaber bar, so it's not Conquest mode). And likely edited the classes as well (Han with the saber).

In order to play this you'd need the modified LVL files the person used.

Anyway, they have to be using edited files, because hot1g_eli and hot1c_eli both get fatal errors, and there's no other way I know of to get more than two heroes at a time like what you see in the picture (which doesn't appear to be faked).

If you know how to use UltraEdit and have some time on your hands, go for it!


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Old 11-13-2005, 10:12 PM   #6
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Though if you do that the game looks "messed up" and personally I think make it look kinda stupid.


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Old 11-13-2005, 11:12 PM   #7
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I dont think Han has a lightsaber, thats just Mace's getting in the way


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Old 11-13-2005, 11:33 PM   #8
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No, Mace is on the other side of the picture, he could have a lightsaber...

Still Death Star assult with heroes would be fun!
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:41 PM   #9
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No, Mace is on the other side of the picture, he could have a lightsaber...

Still Death Star assult with heroes would be fun!


You can have more than one of each hero


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Old 11-13-2005, 11:44 PM   #10
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Oh yeah, still Han looks like hes carring a gun in the picture (look closely
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:08 AM   #11
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With my expertise vison (@ LIAYD), IT looks like Han is carrying his blaster, because the way he is moving..that's my assumption.


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Old 11-14-2005, 03:34 PM   #12
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Okay I guess you're right, there is a second Mace Windu in the shot (you can see his boots behind Secura's bottom). The head of that one person in the back I can't quite make out. And there's one green blade I don't know what it's connected to...

Well, in any case, it still has to be edited, because there's no Hoth Assault map. And I'm fairly sure that's Hoth and not Rhen Var, because of the hangar-like trimmings behind them.

Wow, 11 Heroes in one shot! (players or bots, that's still pretty impressive... though probably players 'cause it looks almost posed... bots normally don't cluster up like that so much, unless it was a huge glitch!).


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Old 11-14-2005, 03:37 PM   #13
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I think it might be cool if you were limited to one of each type of hero, but say you could have multiple heroes on a team live at once. Like say you could unlock Leia, Han and Luke for the rebels on the Death Star, and Vader, Palpatine and Fett for the Imperials. Or on Geonosis, Dooku, Jango and Grievous for the CIS and Mace Windu, Ki-Adi-Mundi and Obi-Wan (or Aayla Secura) for the Republic.


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Old 11-14-2005, 07:19 PM   #14
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I think it might be cool if you were limited to one of each type of hero, but say you could have multiple heroes on a team live at once. Like say you could unlock Leia, Han and Luke for the rebels on the Death Star, and Vader, Palpatine and Fett for the Imperials. Or on Geonosis, Dooku, Jango and Grievous for the CIS and Mace Windu, Ki-Adi-Mundi and Obi-Wan (or Aayla Secura) for the Republic.
I'd find that pretty cool too. Well, the picture that I posted of Hero Assualt on Hoth, Darth Maul is screwed once the shield is down.


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Old 11-14-2005, 08:03 PM   #15
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yes, but use the force, there might be a glitch
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:08 PM   #16
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:10 PM   #17
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:15 PM   #18
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Assuming that is a shield and not just lightning...


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Old 11-14-2005, 08:21 PM   #19
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maube that glitch is the force can go through it
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:24 PM   #20
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Or just throw your lightsaber through all the heroes.


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Old 11-14-2005, 08:27 PM   #21
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Its perfit
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:15 PM   #22
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maube that glitch is the force can go through it
How could an energy shield stop the force? Isn't the force everywhere?



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Old 11-15-2005, 01:27 PM   #23
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Well the Force itself is an energy field and the Force can block the Force. So who knows...

But yeah, if it's "everywhere" then you'd think it wouldn't be stopped by a force field.

In JK1/MotS you could force grip people through thin glass and Force fields, for example.

In Episode I they showed us that a force field can apparently stop the Force, as otherwise why didn't Qui Gon and Maul try to attack each other through the red fields (that even a saber couldn't do anything to)... or why didn't Qui Gon and Obi-Wan use the Force against the Droidekas with their shields up (even Anakin and Obi-Wan in ROTS don't try this). Then there's the "Ray Shields" incident in ROTS.

Why not use the Force to locate and disable the shield projector? Apparently this doesn't occur to the movie characters! So either they're ignorant, or perhaps there are some shields that can block the Force, somehow...


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Old 11-15-2005, 01:31 PM   #24
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Anakin and Obi were probably too busy deflecting the blasts from the Droideka to use the force against them, I would imagine that a Droideka would probably go flying, shields and all if someone was able to use force push on them.



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Old 11-15-2005, 01:36 PM   #25
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Maybe the reason why the force can't go through some shields because it's a "force" field. Get it? LOL.


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Old 11-15-2005, 01:37 PM   #26
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Well the ROTS game you could 'throw'
the Droideka's pick them up and push them away
so....


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Yeah but that's a game. I mean the games show Darth Maul using Lightning during his duel, and yet he never does so in the movie. Did he just forget?

As for the "they were too busy blocking" sure that's plausible, but we know that Jedi can sometimes multi-task... look at the Jedi in the Geonosis arena (granted many of them died, but we see some of them Force pushing and such). If a Force Push would have ended the battle sooner, why didn't they do that instead of running away?

It would have been cool to see Obi-Wan and Anakin pull off some amazing technique on the Droidekas to show how much they had advanced beyond Obi-Wan and his master all those years ago, but oh well. Guess they had more important things to do...


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Old 11-15-2005, 05:06 PM   #28
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Maybe they didn't do it as it would be bad movie material?

Off topic: Kurgan, why would you be looking at Ayla's buttom?


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Off topic: Kurgan, why would you be looking at Ayla's buttom?
Maybe 'cause it's in the path towards Mace's boots. And to see if it's exactly Mace Windu.


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Old 11-15-2005, 07:02 PM   #30
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thats really luke in the backround carrying the saber
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thats really luke in the backround carrying the saber
Thanx for pointing that out know we don't have to worry about Han Solo having a lightsaber.


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Maybe 'cause it's in the path towards Mace's boots. And to see if it's exactly Mace Windu.
Yeah. It blocks our view of Mace's manly physique...!
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Yes....certainly does.....*laughs so hard...falls off his chair*....lol


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Thanx for pointing that out know we don't have to worry about Han Solo having a lightsaber.

Awww c'mon. You didn't wonder if Han might be a Jedi when you saw him expertly slice that Taun Taun.... And how about that time he shot the tentacle perfectly and saved Lando while hanging from his feet off the skiff!

And he had a premonition that he might never see the Falcon again (and in the early Scripts Lando doesn't make it out of the Death Star II explosion, so Han was right!)...


...and in Star Wars Infinities ANH he uses a double saber to slice up a Royal Guard and saves Luke's a$$.


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Yeah but that's a game. I mean the games show Darth Maul using Lightning during his duel, and yet he never does so in the movie. Did he just forget?

As for the "they were too busy blocking" sure that's plausible, but we know that Jedi can sometimes multi-task... look at the Jedi in the Geonosis arena (granted many of them died, but we see some of them Force pushing and such). If a Force Push would have ended the battle sooner, why didn't they do that instead of running away?

It would have been cool to see Obi-Wan and Anakin pull off some amazing technique on the Droidekas to show how much they had advanced beyond Obi-Wan and his master all those years ago, but oh well. Guess they had more important things to do...
I was Reffering to the point of the force being everywhere and that shields doesnt block it.


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What if they're MIDICHLORIAN SHIELDS?


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What if they're MIDICHLORIAN SHIELDS?
Then they are made of midichlorians which would enhance the powers?



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Shielding the person, improving his powers. Nice deal.


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Now I mean it would block his midichlorians.

Like anti-Jedi spray!


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