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Old 12-14-2005, 12:37 AM   #1
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The True Sith!?!

Ever wonder what Kotor means when they say Reven goes to fight the "TRUE SITH" Well I'll tell you..........so sit back and relax.

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OKAY! now heres a little history: the "sith" are a ancient species and had a powerful secret form of magic. now the very first and founder of the jedi order was Kaja Sinis. anyways to make along story short, the republic at the time basically banished the sith out of republic space. now most of the jedi that claim they are sith, like darth sion, darth nihlius, and traya......<----- yup wannabes, they aren't real sith. if memorey serves me right i think kriea says that. but jedi that do become REAL sith inhearit the siths crazy form of "magic." so the sith are making a comeback, so thats why reven goes to stop them. well anyways you can read up on at: http://www.jedipurge.com/ its got some pretty interesting stuff, history wise......if you guys are into that. i am, i like to know whats going on.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:34 AM   #2
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How do you know everything on that site is true and is no crap?
Looks like alot of ppl made those things up..


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Old 12-14-2005, 08:16 AM   #3
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http://www.jedipurge.com/ = http://www.supershadow.com/ = A bunch of crap.

Dont believe anything thats said on that website

And yeah i believe by True sith they mean remnants of the original Sith empire that escaped the slaughter of the Great Hyperspace War and fled into the unknown regions.


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Old 12-14-2005, 08:19 AM   #4
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Kaja Sinis isn't even in the star wars Databank..And if he was the first jedi ever he would've bin important and therefore he must be in the databank wich he is not..
A made-up story of you ask me..


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Old 12-14-2005, 08:22 AM   #5
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Kaja Sinis isn't even in the star wars Databank..And if he was the first jedi ever he would've bin important and therefore he must be in the databank wich he is not..
A made-up story of you ask me..
Yeah there's so much crap on that site i dont know how people fall for it! like how he thinks he has the scripts for 7,8,9 what nonsense!

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Old 12-14-2005, 03:31 PM   #6
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Someone is really high when he writes this.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:37 PM   #7
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We already know the basic story behind the true Sith. It's not a huge secret or anything. In fact, I think they include it in the chronicles section of KotOR2.com.


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Old 12-14-2005, 04:21 PM   #8
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Ya, this is all a load of bull. There are some things you believe online, and some you don't. It's stuff like this that shouldn't be taken seriously.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:26 PM   #9
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Someone is really high when he writes this.
I would not say that.
It's a matter of imagination.
But it's a crazy and large imagination that man has i can tell you that =D.


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Old 12-14-2005, 10:40 PM   #10
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That's great stuff...

The dumbest Sith Lord lasted only a day and died on his first mission. Well, how'd he become a Sith Lord if he was so dumb?

'Kyber crystals'? 'Sith Dynasty'? 'Revan was killed in a Force avalanche'?



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Old 12-14-2005, 10:40 PM   #11
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Kaja Sinis? That wasn't the person who was the leader of the first dark Jedi. What kind of crap is on those sites anyways?
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:44 AM   #12
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Fun stuff!!!

Its so whacked that its actually cute to read.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:47 AM   #13
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Please, read all this http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Supershadow it´s really funny how he writes so stupid things that you just can laught.

What he thinks, that he is George Lucas or something? We all like doing fanfiction, but we try to respect the canon.

I hope he won´t write or publish even more stupid things, just because he is ridiculous.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:22 PM   #14
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On the contrary I hope he can do/write more!!!

I kinda like is site now actually, its actually funny to read, like a bad acid trip.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:43 PM   #15
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On the contrary I hope he can do/write more!!!

I kinda like is site now actually, its actually funny to read, like a bad acid trip.
The only thing that's fun is how to see what a great imagination the man has.
It's a bunch of crap yeah,but can you make up whole story's like that?
It's great for him he enjoy's it.
But i like to keep it with the true sw story's.


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Old 12-15-2005, 04:29 PM   #16
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^ Another funny thing is seeing his stupid, hoplessly lost fan comment on his "information". They actually buy his bull crap. Their the entertaining part - he's just a loser.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:06 PM   #17
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i know that this site is crap but i think it would be nice if lucus were to post the history of the jedi and sith before the movies because it would be interesting to see what he planed on happening. and it would let a gateway of new books and jsut for reading purposes and to see what led up to the movies.


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Old 12-20-2005, 06:11 PM   #18
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He's keeping that secret for a reason. If we knew everything, we wouldn't be here talking about it, Star Wars would not be as popular, and he would be making less money. Discussion of Star Wars is what is going to keep it alive.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:16 PM   #19
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I was looking at some of the responses people put on the site, and I couldn't help thinking, "Those idiots!"

People actually listen to him? Come one.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:14 AM   #20
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i know that this site is crap but i think it would be nice if lucus were to post the history of the jedi and sith before the movies because it would be interesting to see what he planed on happening. and it would let a gateway of new books and jsut for reading purposes and to see what led up to the movies.
No the part of the history of the jedi and sith must remain hidden..


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Old 12-21-2005, 02:26 PM   #21
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Well, we get bits and pieces of the history here and there... but a full timeline may take the fun away a bit. Blanks in a timeline is always nice, it leaves room for imagination...

... though imagination is one thing, a dilutional supershadow is another...
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:47 PM   #22
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I personally can't respect an opinion of someone who repeatedly spells Revan's name wrong.


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I personally can't respect an opinion of someone who repeatedly spells Revan's name wrong.
...and who claims Malak was stronger in the Force than Revan.

...and who claims Revan was killed in a 'Force avalance'


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Old 12-23-2005, 01:40 AM   #24
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Look at his most powerful sith list:

1. Darth Sidious with Kyber Crystal
2. Darth Vader
3. Darth Bane
4. Darth Plagueis
5. Darth Tyranus
6. Darth Rage
7. Darth Maul
8. Darth Scarz
9. Darth Revan
10. Darth Imperius
11. Darth Ghore
12. Darth Vak
13. Darth Slane
14. Darth Vicrone
15. Darth Malak
16. Exar Kun
17. Darth Xio Jade (Best Female Sith of All Time)
18. Darth Seer
19. Darth Thrax
20. Darth Secretus

Darth Rage? Darth Scarz??

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Darth Rage? Darth Scarz??
He missed Darth Joke!
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:06 AM   #26
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I'd be more worried about Darth 'Secretus' ... ugh


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...and who claims Malak was stronger in the Force than Revan.

...and who claims Revan was killed in a 'Force avalance'
Revan is stronger in the force than Malak..


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Old 12-23-2005, 03:43 PM   #28
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Darth Secretus is secreting crap on this site, I think. Who ever came up with that list of Sith Lords? As for Darth Xio Jade: Listen to this. It is so stupid it is almost comical. Anakin didn't want to save Padme, he wanted Xio Jade instead of Padme!

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Xio Jade introduces herself to Anakin and uses a powerful, irresistible dark side mind trick to seduce Anakin. It doesn't hurt that Xio is also one of the most beautiful women in the galaxy. She records their affair on a Sith holocron and sends the holocron to Palpatine.

Palpatine then orders the Jedi Council to send Obi-Wan Kenobi to deliver the holocron to Padme. Padme is devastated after seeing Anakin with Xio Jade.
This is just plain sad. Now check out the powerful Jedi list:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Aenon Jurtis (Ancient Jedi Master)
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. Kaja Sinis (The Very First Jedi and Founder of the Jedi Order)
6. Mace Windu
7. Ben Skywalker (Son of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade)
8. Plo Koon
9. Anakin Skywalker
10. Ce Ce Denowai (Most Powerful Female Jedi of All Time)
11. Kyle Katarn
12. Ki Adi Mundi
13. Princess Leia Organa Solo
14. Mara Jade Skywalker
15. Kit Fisto
16. Qui-Gon Jinn
17. Shintor Beerus (Ancient Jedi Master)
18. Yendar Platis (Ancient six-armed Jedi Master)
19. Bontu Sitmus (Whill Jedi Master Who Taught Yoda)
20. Anakin Solo (Son of Han Solo and Princess Leia)

Interesting. It also looks like we have a "Most powerful female" Jedi this time, too. And take a look at her Battle Gown. What would she do, dance people to death?

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the star wars wiki cities is the most acturate site out of all of those just some idiots go on there a screw a few things up.
I think wiki cities is genuine most of it at least.
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:18 PM   #30
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Good God!

The man is a megalomaniac! Thats just the most stupid thing ever. I really don't know how to respond.

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I just check his interview with Lucas, maybe its all an elaborate joke?


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Old 12-26-2005, 03:46 PM   #31
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When I play through KotOR II, I never see the dialogue that mentions 'True Sith'. If there is anything mentioned, there were conversations about the 'Original Sith'. Now, 'Original' Sith is different from 'True' Sith.

'Original Sith' means that they were the earliest version of the Sith. Not another species all together.

'True Sith' means that the current Sith are not pure Sith.

Please let me know where in the game, the exact dialogue, where the NPC and PC talk about 'True Sith'... Maybe I missed something...
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:51 AM   #32
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I really wouldn't bother I expect the True Sith will get nuked by Lucas before K3 goes foward. Why?

It contradicts everything that came before, thats why. We saw the "True" Sith in Tales in the early Nineties. They were exiled Jedi who went to the Sith Homeworld where they interbred and became dark side Force users. Revan and Malak weren't "True" Sith because there wasn't really a direct conection between them and the last Sith, but they follow the Sith ideal. It says all this in the K1 splash screens. The idea that the "Sith" Empire is still out there is just dros, the whole thing got done a thousand years ago and the Republic absorbed the Empire after it was defeated.

Now granted there may well be a more powerful group of Dark Siders but they won't be Sith, they'll be something else.


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At the end of TSL, I think Kreia says something about Revan going into the Unknown Regions to fight the "True Sith Empire." I know she said "True Sith," although I'm not sure whether the "Empire" was in there or not.
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At the end of TSL, I think Kreia says something about Revan going into the Unknown Regions to fight the "True Sith Empire." I know she said "True Sith," although I'm not sure whether the "Empire" was in there or not.
I don't think she said Empire though...


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I think that part is right. The 'True Sith Fled to the unknown regions.
The First Great Schism, which occurred around 24,500 BBY was the name given to the original break between dark side and light side Force traditions. Xendor, who some call the first Dark Jedi, began to argue that the Jedi's focus on unemotional meditation was concealing the "true power" of the Force from them.
Xendor was i guess pissed off and went to war with the jedi. He lossed and him and his followers went to korribon. Many more schisms followed in the ensuing centuries, but none would have the consequences of the Hundred-Year Darkness in 7,000 BBY, where the Dark Jedi, once again defeated, were banished from known space. They arrived on Korriban, the home of the Sith people, a primitive but Force-sensitive species. The Dark Jedi impressed the Sith with displays of Force power, and became the rulers of the planet. Over time, the Dark Jedi intermarried with the Sith, and the two identities merged. The term ‘Sith’ would later come to refer to the Dark Jedi who followed the codes of these ancient Jedi, although Dark Jedi individuals and organizations outside the Sith tradition continued to exist. And then the hyperspace wars began, then the Great Sith War, The War of the Star Forge,
and then The New Sith Wars, and last of all the over most populer, Revenge of the sith. I'm an sorta star war historian


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I think that we are taking Kriea's words to literally. Maybe the "True Sith" are not a physical organization at all. Maybe when she said that Revan went to fight the true sith she meant the Darkness inside himself. Maybe the "True Sith" is what Revan could have become if he had not fallen to Malak, and he went to attempt to destroy the Darkness inside him. That might explain why he couldn't take Bastila and the others with him, why he had to do it alone.
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Revan and Malak weren't "True" Sith because there wasn't really a direct conection between them and the last Sith, but they follow the Sith ideal. It says all this in the K1 splash screens. The idea that the "Sith" Empire is still out there is just dros, the whole thing got done a thousand years ago and the Republic absorbed the Empire after it was defeated.

Now granted there may well be a more powerful group of Dark Siders but they won't be Sith, they'll be something else.
K2 takes all this into account.

In KotOR 1, Canderous says "the sith came to us with an offer" when he discusses why the Mandalorians invaded the republic. This isn't Malak or Revan or Traya.

It's entirely possible that "true sith" are still hanging around the outskirts of the galaxy. We can't know exactly what OE meant: we have to wait for K3. Nitpicking isn't going to do any good, save make people enjoy the game less, and make it less likely that fans will endorse a final game.

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The True sith are a speicies. A parasite maybe? lol


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No they're guys with red faces and these tiny little tentacle things on their chin, I've seen them. I don't recall "The Sith Came to us with an offer." Can you give me the whole quote?


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I remeber Candorous saying that the "sith came with an offer" Also the true sith died out during the Hypersapce wars...or so they thought...


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