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Old 02-12-2006, 05:18 PM   #1
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Smuggler and economy - playing dirty ;)

When i played the tutorial i didn't pay much attention to those smugglers, since i didn't move my cursor (slow with the tomatos ) to see how much money those guys steal....well, it's been only 2-3 days that i've sent one smuggler to an imperial planet and saw the quite interesting amount of 850++ credits per day coming to my account, so, these guys are worth their money

Generally about economy on EaW, what do you think is best to grow up quick? Grab a planet with 6 building slots and fill it up with mining facilities (it will reach over 5000 credits/gd [gd:galactic day] i guess)? Sending smugglers all over the enemy planets and enjoying some dirty money ? Or a mix of both?

Personally, i'm going to establish mining facilities, not in a single one planet, but in many (not all, slots are valuable) and so have a "secure" income. Obviously, smugglers are not so secured income, since they can be taken out quite easily. On the other hand, since they cost about 300 credits and they can steal the triple money in comparison to their value, so, even if you use him for a single gd, you have a positive income.
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Old 02-12-2006, 06:20 PM   #2
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When i played the tutorial i didn't pay much attention to those smugglers, since i didn't move my cursor (slow with the tomatos ) to see how much money those guys steal....well, it's been only 2-3 days that i've sent one smuggler to an imperial planet and saw the quite interesting amount of 850++ credits per day coming to my account, so, these guys are worth their money

Generally about economy on EaW, what do you think is best to grow up quick? Grab a planet with 6 building slots and fill it up with mining facilities (it will reach over 5000 credits/gd [gd:galactic day] i guess)? Sending smugglers all over the enemy planets and enjoying some dirty money ? Or a mix of both?

Personally, i'm going to establish mining facilities, not in a single one planet, but in many (not all, slots are valuable) and so have a "secure" income. Obviously, smugglers are not so secured income, since they can be taken out quite easily. On the other hand, since they cost about 300 credits and they can steal the triple money in comparison to their value, so, even if you use him for a single gd, you have a positive income.
Lol, firstly i don't really see the reason why you posted this? You don't seem to be complaining? lol. Anyways, I like the smugglers but then again i don't. I kind of have been doing the exact same thing you've been doing during gameplay.

Reasons:

Pros- A good way to get fast easy money
Cons- takes the fun out of the game, too easy

Although this is just the demo they might have fixed this issuie by now. =)


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Old 02-12-2006, 06:58 PM   #3
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to make things harder, smigglers and boanty hunters are only on some planets. im playing as the empire with neather, pain in the ass
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Old 02-12-2006, 07:06 PM   #4
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Keep in mind the planets' base incomes vary, too. It would be more economical to concentrate mining facilities on planets with a high base income, just as in real life mines are located at concentrations of ore. Specialization of planets will probably be the most successful strategy, compared to trying to put one of everything on each planet. Of course, that makes your income-generating planets a target for raids...


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Old 02-12-2006, 07:55 PM   #5
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to make things harder, smigglers and boanty hunters are only on some planets. im playing as the empire with neather, pain in the ass
Bounty hunters can be hired on any planet that allows building of a Hutt Palace. Not sure about smugglers though.
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:09 PM   #6
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the list is in the specialstructures xml files
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:03 PM   #7
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Specialization of planets will probably be the most successful strategy...
An even more general view of the subject (haven't think of it). It will be a challenge to build the right facilities on the right planets. For example, in the demo i used to build a central (relatively to the other controlled planets) position with war facilities (medium, heavy factory etc) and provide with the necessary forces the rest planets.

Hyperspace routes will play a significant reason for sure. A planet full of mining facilities but with only a hyperspace line to an allied planets, or (worse) with no hyperspace lines around, is most likely the best prey for the enemy...i don't know if the AI will see this in single player (through probe droids/spies) but on mp it's the best present for the enemy
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Old 02-13-2006, 02:51 PM   #8
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in the planet discription it will say what its good for


Abregado_Rae - reduce price on Imperial_Heavy_Scout_Squad

AetenII - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types -Rebel_Ground_Mining_Facility
Planet_Is_Mining_Colony

Alderaan - RL_Combat_Armor_L1_Upgrade

AlzocIII - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types - Rebel_Ground_Shutter_Shield Planet_Is_Mining_Colony - reduce price on Victory_Destroyer

Atzerri - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types - R_Ground_Light_Vehicle_Factory Planet_Black_Market_Influences

Bestine- Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types - Alliance_Assault_Frigate, Nebulon_B_Frigate
reduce price on Acclamator_Assault_Ship

Byss - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types - R_Ground_Base_Shield, Ground_Infiltrator_Facility, Ground_Ion_Cannon, Rebel_Ground_Mining_Facility, Rebel_Orbital_Long_Range_Scanner, R_Galactic_Turbolaser_Tower_Defenses
EL_Improved_ATAT_Reactors_L1_Upgrade

Carida - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types - Ground_Infiltrator_Facility
reduce price on Rebel_Infantry_Squad, Rebel_Tank_Buster_Squad, Rebel_Infiltrator_Team, Imperial_Stormtrooper_Squad, Imperial_Light_Scout_Squad

Corellia - Planet_Slice_Affinity_Types-Corellian_Gunboat
reduce price on Corellian_Corvette

what does affinity mean?

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Old 02-13-2006, 03:26 PM   #9
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what does affinity mean?
It means "correlation with (something/someone)" if i am not mistaken.

But those bonuses won't appear in the galactic map as well? Or we'll have to look into the xmls....? (well, this is indeed a "dirty" way to play )
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:30 PM   #10
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oh yeah, the reduced prices is galaxy wide

i thnk Slice_Affinity means that that type of slice is easy while other slices will be difficult since all planets have a slicing difficulty ratings
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:38 PM   #11
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Hmm, more new. Just saw that smugglers are not such a good investment unless you have a good enemy planet to steal. The 850+ credits i was getting was due to stealing Coruscant

So, i guess if smugglers will do the work...they cost around 400 credits and in most cases they steal around 100 credits/day. And i guess it's obvious that someone is stealing your planets so.....boom, no smuglers....

[edit @ shadowsfm] Then we see through the xmls the planets with the best slicing (=stealing) rating and we use smugglers only to them? This is some kind of game exploit...

[edit @ wedge] Or you click that icon on the galactic map, i think it's the same. Yet, i always have activated only the credits value, if you have all info set on the map gets a bit like a .doc page
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:39 PM   #12
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Dictionary.com for affinity: A natural attraction, liking, or feeling of kinship. An inherent similarity between persons or things. So, that means the planet "likes" to build certain things.

You can see the bonuses on the galactic map if you just hover the mouse over one of the planets. The droid will pop up a window of information about the planet, including bonuses.


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Old 02-13-2006, 03:54 PM   #13
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Hmm, more new. Just saw that smugglers are not such a good investment unless you have a good enemy planet to steal. The 850+ credits i was getting was due to stealing Coruscant

So, i guess if smugglers will do the work...they cost around 400 credits and in most cases they steal around 100 credits/day. And i guess it's obvious that someone is stealing your planets so.....boom, no smuglers....

[edit @ shadowsfm] Then we see through the xmls the planets with the best slicing (=stealing) rating and we use smugglers only to them? This is some kind of game exploit...

[edit @ wedge] Or you click that icon on the galactic map, i think it's the same. Yet, i always have activated only the credits value, if you have all info set on the map gets a bit like a .doc page
Bounty Hunters cost x2 what smugglers do so even if you only get 85 credits a day (not sure where I got the number) you will get that everyday like you control the planets revenu or the other side will need to spend 1000 to uproot it.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:45 PM   #14
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smugglers take half the daily planets income for 5 days

which can be edited

to bad boanty hunters attach to cruisers and stay in transports so they cant fight. i was hoping we could use them like iniltaters and use them as a counter vs heros. and only boba fett can Neutralize major heros.

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