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Old 01-15-2006, 01:03 PM   #1
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Obsidian hiring for multi-platform Action RPG

Check out the latest news post on the main site, and feel free to tell us if you think this has anything to do with IGNs predictions about an action-based KotOR III.


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Old 01-15-2006, 01:25 PM   #2
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Call me blind, but I can't seem to find it. A link would be very helpful, if you have the time to post one.


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In fact, it is the top news item



So, you read the bit below about Obsidian Entertainment doing a pure action-combat KotOR 3? Laughed about how crazy that ideas sounds? Alright, then you might be prepared to read this

It seems that Obsidian is hiring a Audio Programmer for an unannounced game. Not too exciting in itself.

It gets more interesting once you look at the details:
Audio Programmer - PS3, XBOX 360, PC
Unannounced - 3rd Person, ACTION, RPG

So, a few days after IGN (who are despite some occasional wacky predictions still a great source for gaming news) proclaims a Xbox360 action-based KotOR 3, we find that Obsidian (the most likely candidate for KotOR 3 since BioWare is busy with its own IPs) is working on an action rpg for the 360, PC (a sure bet for any future KotORs) and the PS3 (with the PS3 having a HDD this time around, a port seems likely).

Feel free to draw your own conclusions, and to discuss them along with the rest of the community on our KotOR III Boards.


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Old 01-15-2006, 01:39 PM   #4
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If they dont turn in into Kotor III- Diablo in star wars..
Action rpg? i hope that isnt true

I dont care if they make if for the 360, PS3 or any other console as long as they make if for the PC first. IMO consoles are crap and the 360 is also IMO.

Edited by CR: Please refrain fro such comments on a board that is intended for both console as well as PC owners.

Kotor III will hopefully be available in .. let's say January 2007?

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While this does sound like something that could be K3, the fact that the PS3 is in there is giving me some doubts. Good job finding the info, but there just isn't enough (IMO) to get any conclusions yet. Maybe their getting ready to make Mass Effect 2.


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Old 01-15-2006, 01:52 PM   #6
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Didn't Bioware make Mass Effect?


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BioWare makes all 3 Mass Effect games.
I would bet a lot that the PS3 get KotOR 3. The only reason there was no PS2 KotOR was the lack of a hard-drive (20mb save files).

Vaelastraz, don't make any flame-bait coments lke that on a shared PC/Xbox Board.


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Old 01-15-2006, 02:37 PM   #8
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Didn't Bioware make Mass Effect?
I was joking. I said it because Obsidian seems to be making sequels to Bioware games (KOTOR and Neverwinter Knights)


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I think this link will sufficiently describe my reaction to an action-based KotOR III.


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Old 01-15-2006, 04:28 PM   #10
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I would say this is for OE's own IP that they been wanting to do for a while. And now they (have done/are doing) a couple of bigs games they should have enough money (depending on a publishing deal of course) to go ahead and begin (do further) work on it.
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I can't remember Obsidian saying anything about their own IP. You have a link to that, by chance?


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I think he's referring to project new jersey, which (I believe) OE said would not be a sequel. I gave up following PNJ months ago, so much could have changed.
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I can't remember Obsidian saying anything about their own IP. You have a link to that, by chance?
Well! You missed a lot actually. When I was over at Obsidian Ent, I started to talk to Joseph Bulock. He mentioned that 'Project New Jersey' is there own IP. Now, from what I gather, they are working on several games. However, the fans are mixing the facts up... There is a thread in Obsidian Ent's forums called 'Was it Worth It', and another one called 'Interogate the Developer - Was It Worth It." They were once one thread. During our conversation in the original thread, he accidently let some secrets out about the new RPG. After he made the statements, I PMed him, and told him he made a mistake. He raced back to the thread, and seperated the original 'Was it Worth it' thread. In the process there were four to five posts that revaeled some intresting details. I decided to go back to the post, and I was only able to get the original posts that started our conversation. I held onto the post in a word document before it was deleted. It is a simple statement, but it does reveale some intresting things. Joe's reply can still be found in the thread, but it is worthless without seeing the original question that another visitor had asked. Even the poster said that he messed up.

It was pretty funny....His bosses showed up, so he had to work fast in correcting the problem...

Interogate The Developer - Was it Worth It 2
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Post # 7 - In this post a visitor pickup on the type of game.
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index....ic=39422&st=0#

Was it Worth It (Original Thread) Battlewookie severed the thread in Post #28
http://forums.obsidianent.com/index....5&#entry528543

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Old 01-16-2006, 05:03 AM   #14
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:29 AM   #15
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I wonder if K3 will be console only...

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Thank you Com Raven.

I believe it will drop first for consoles, most likely 360.
PC will follow shortly after.

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No way it will be console exclusive; LEC has too much money riding on this franchise's multi-plattform monetary success.


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No way it will be console exclusive; LEC has too much money riding on this franchise's multi-plattform monetary success.
You are probably right. I just get paranoid.

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Yeah, and seeing how the 360 shares a lot of tools with PC gaming, I think the releases might actually be pretty close to each other.


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Old 01-16-2006, 03:53 PM   #21
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Since he has only been on the job for about six months, he could have gotten fired for it.
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Let's hope not^^


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Interesting news. Not much in itself, but its still good to hear.

Hopefully, its K3 but its really too early too tell. It could be anything from K3 to a new internal project.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't looking for a PC audio programmer point to a game being released on PC, or do I misunderstand the job?


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Interesting news. Not much in itself, but its still good to hear.

Hopefully, its K3 but its really too early too tell. It could be anything from K3 to a new internal project.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't looking for a PC audio programmer point to a game being released on PC, or do I misunderstand the job?
I found the job postiing, but I also didn't see any connection. The posting just described the basic elements of what they would be responsible for... Nothing more..
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Old 01-16-2006, 04:36 PM   #25
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I had to say something! I didn't want him to get into trouble...
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You know, it's hard to determine if he was refering to Kotor3 as PNJ. Obsidian has done sequels for 2 of Bioware's games. Could PNJ possibly be Jade Empire 2? (God I hope not!)


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Nope, BioWare is doing Jade Empire 2. There is no immeadite connection, but I found the timing remarkable. As I said in the post, this might be nothing; make up your own mind about it


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You know, it's hard to determine if he was refering to Kotor3 as PNJ. Obsidian has done sequels for 2 of Bioware's games. Could PNJ possibly be Jade Empire 2? (God I hope not!)
This doesn't say much, but one can make their own conclusions:
The original post that started it allFrom 'Was it Worht It Thread

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PNJ will also likely sell well (but not as well as either NWN2 or KOTOR2) since it is not based on a popualr license nor is it a sequel to a popular game.
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I wouldn't be so sure of that one. PNJ is one of the most interesting games I've seen in a very long time, and while it may not have the exact same fan base of NWN2, I think it might surprise a lot of people.
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"wouldn't be so sure of that one. PNJ is one of the most interesting games I've seen in a very long time, and while it may not have the exact same fan base of NWN2, I think it might surprise a lot of people."

Are you saying we're wrong in PNJ is based on a known and popular license?

Because, as good as PNJ might be, I don't it selling as well as either KOTOR2 or NWN2 without that backing. Of course, there are exceptions to the 'rule' I stated.

But, sicne I don't know much, I cna't say much else on it.

Just tell us all the info so we can make a reasonable educated guess.
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When reading Joe's post, one can make some intresting conclusions about this game....
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Well call me naive, but I contacted OE a week ago and they said Lucasarts haven't even contacted them about making a third Kotor. Maybe I'm wrong and they just blew me off, who knows. If they are developing Kotor3.... HURRY UP ALREADY OE!!!!!!


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Well, if they told you the truth, then no, OE won't be making KotOR 3 at all...


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I wouldn't get it if it was an action based kotor.


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Lucasarts hurried OE along with KotOR II, and look what happened... OE should take just as much time as they need to make the game, but they should definitely hurry up on an official anouncement.

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I wouldn't get it if it was an action based kotor.
If it had real-time action in it, they could keep the essence of an RPG. If they turned the KotOR series into an action based game, then it will no longer be an RPG. In the latter, the game will simulate Episode III the game... Not cool... I liked Episode III the video game, but KotOR is an RPG...
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BioWare has two 360 teams; one doing Mass Effect, the other doing Jade Empire II.
Remember, we never said that Obsidian is definitely doing KotOR III; it is a possibillity, nothing more


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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that LucasArts has made a serious change of course with their marketing of KotOR?

Consider how the development of KotOR was communicated. The gaming community was getting inside scoop on KotOR in 2001, two years before the game was released! I can't help but think that giving the gaming community tidbits of tantalizing info during the course of development only helped with the record sales that KotOR made. Then KotOR: TSL was officially announced at E3 2004 and went gold six months later. And now? We're relegated to sifting the Internet for news on KotOR 3, trying to figure out if a job posting has relevance to KotOR 3 or not. It just seems strange to me that a game series that started with advance communication to the gaming community has now gone into deaf and dumb mode.

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2002 February 28 - LucasArts chooses Xbox and PC as platforms for Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
2003 May 2 - LucasArts announces Fall 2003 release for PC version of critically hailed Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
2003 July 9 - LucasArts announces July 16 retail release of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic for the Xbox
2003 August 1 - LucasArts Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic posts record sales in first two weeks of release
2004 May 4 - LucasArts E3 2004 lineup to include Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords (announced release for Xbox and PC in February 2005)
2004 July 22 - LucasArts names John Geoghegan Vice President, Marketing
2004 November 23 - Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords goes gold
2005 February 8 - Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords for the PC in stores on February 10


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Whow knows, there might be an announcement soon for all we know.


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Whow knows, there might be an announcement soon for all we know.
And that is precisely my point. Who knows? In early 2002 everyone knew that KotOR was scheduled to come out in late 2003. There was much speculation about what type of combat the game would use, how the game would handle multiplayer support, et al. And of course many people guessed wrong BUT we knew that the game was in development. Now? Not so much.

Does anyone really know that KotOR 3 is in development? Not to my knowledge. I just think it would be a curious and unfortunate turn of events if KotOR 3 is made and is officially announced 6 months before release when the original KotOR marketing strategy of seriously advanced communication seems to have done so well. What's that old proverb? "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


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Do we know that KotOR is in development as in having seen it with our own eyes? No.

Do we have a strong hunch based on a series of hints over the lat few months? Definitely.


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Yeah, don't worry about it so much, we'll learn something soon I'm sure. The 360 is rather new, surely we'll learn something in the next few months...if we end up in September/October with no news, we can start freakin out.


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Hints and speculation hold no water in the world of gaming. For all we know PNJ could be a game about picking up girls at the Jersey Shore. Until someone makes some sort of announcement, whether it be OE, Bioware, or Lucasarts, all we can is throw theories at each other. Not that it isn't fun!


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