lfnetwork.com mark read register faq members calendar
View Poll Results: How would you prefer to find out when a new Kotor Tool version is released?
Via forum title / 1st posting 25 49.02%
New forum posting for each release 13 25.49%
Announcement on Kotor Tool site's news page 19 37.25%
Via Kotor Tool RSS feed 5 9.80%
Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool 30 58.82%
Direct email 12 23.53%
Other 2 3.92%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll


Thread: Survey - How would you like to find out when a new version of Kotor Tool is released?
Thread Tools Display Modes
Post a new thread. Sorry, this thread is closed. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Old 01-19-2006, 01:13 PM   #1
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
Survey - How would you like to find out when a new version of Kotor Tool is released?

Since it is important to always have the latest version of Kotor Tool, I'd like to know how users would like to find out when a new release is posted.


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 01:20 PM   #2
ChAiNz.2da
Brony 4 Life. Yo.
 
ChAiNz.2da's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee (USA)
Posts: 6,845
Current Game: Minecraft MP: PynCraft|Tekkit
well.. for regular visitors of the site (like me) your posts tend to do the job quite well. That is, when the auto-updater hasn't already told me so

And "newsletters" can be a pain in the arse to both the author and receiver, IMO. Plus my SPAM filters would kill it unless I knew beforehand to tell it not to kill it

Not sure if it's possible, but having an auto-update for the maps and .bfd files would be pretty sweet.. though not sure if it would be possible (or a nightmare) to incorporate..

in case you're wondering, I'm an advocate for the "auto-updater".. that little treasure has helped me out tons of times


"Eagles May Soar, But Weasels Don't Get Sucked Into Jet Engines"


| Mods (FF) (DS) | Folding | SWK.com | FB: (LF) (Me) | Steam | The Herd |
ChAiNz.2da is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 01:23 PM   #3
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChAiNz.2da
well.. for regular visitors of the site (like me) your posts tend to do the job quite well. That is, when the auto-updater hasn't already told me so

And "newsletters" can be a pain in the arse to both the author and receiver, IMO. Plus my SPAM filters would kill it unless I knew beforehand to tell it not to kill it

Not sure if it's possible, but having an auto-update for the maps and .bfd files would be pretty sweet.. though not sure if it would be possible (or a nightmare) to incorporate..

in case you're wondering, I'm an advocate for the "auto-updater".. that little treasure has helped me out tons of times
You responded before the poll was finished being edited, heh heh. Click the your choice(s) and cast your vote!


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 01:30 PM   #4
ChAiNz.2da
Brony 4 Life. Yo.
 
ChAiNz.2da's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee (USA)
Posts: 6,845
Current Game: Minecraft MP: PynCraft|Tekkit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Tetra
You responded before the poll was finished being edited, heh heh. Click the your choice(s) and cast your vote!
Doh!

hehehe.. call me "over-eager" then

Okie Dokie, I voted.. (gee, I wonder which way )


"Eagles May Soar, But Weasels Don't Get Sucked Into Jet Engines"


| Mods (FF) (DS) | Folding | SWK.com | FB: (LF) (Me) | Steam | The Herd |
ChAiNz.2da is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 01:40 PM   #5
Darth333
Administraterror
 
Darth333's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In my secret dungeon...
Posts: 8,292
Hehe good thing you allowed us to select more than one option in that poll

I picked 3 options:
1. Via forum title / 1st posting : allows us to see right away if there is an update and quickly check what's new.
2. Announcement on Kotor Tool site's news page: visitors know right away if they have the latest version of KT and what is the date of the last update.
3. Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool: very practical for those who don't bother to check and who already have KT

and about the rss feed well if you want I would be ready to add something on the main swk tools page when next time we update the site
Darth333 is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 01:55 PM   #6
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth333
Hehe good thing you allowed us to select more than one option in that poll
I initially thought you couldn't do a multiple-choice poll.

Maybe I should have made you select just one! I'll probably go with the most popular one(s); I have to reduce my "posting effort". If only I could call the posting.php page with the new info, I could automate that, too!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth333
and about the rss feed well if you want I would be ready to add something on the main swk tools page when next time we update the site
There is a link to this on the Kotor Tool site: http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/rss.php

Go ahead and use it if you like


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 02:05 PM   #7
Achilles
Dapper Chimp
 
Achilles's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 8,204
Helpful! Veteran Modder Forum Veteran 
I went with automatic or manual check and direct email.
Achilles is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 06:13 PM   #8
T7nowhere
Did you reset?
 
T7nowhere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 2,972
Veteran Modder Forum Veteran Helpful! Notable contributor 
I voted for RSS feed, I'm starting to use them more and more.(Maxthon's awesome)

Also Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool. I prefer manual check to automatic.
T7nowhere is offline   you may:
Old 01-19-2006, 07:08 PM   #9
rgdelta
Junior Member
 
rgdelta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 303
I voted for the autoupdate and the e-mail option autoupdate does not seem to work at all and I did e-mail because with this moved to a thread that is not linked under the KOTOR->Editing lucasforums I forget to check this page for new updates.
rgdelta is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 12:26 AM   #10
RedHawke
Shadow Lord Of The Sith™
 
RedHawke's Avatar
 
Status: Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stormreach CA.
Posts: 9,184
Current Game: DDO, Stormreach
I voted option 1, 3, and 5 myself!


"Beware the form-fitting black armor-clad Drow hottie with twin Mineral II Greensteel Khopeshes!"
"Liella d'Orien says, '"You're the fool, Devil. -- Witness the power of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Titan!"'"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RedHawke is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 10:00 AM   #11
stoffe
Network Caretaker
 
stoffe's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,833
Helpful! 10 year veteran! Notable contributor 
I voted for:
New forum posting for each release, since no one else has, and it looks a bit silly with a forum with only one (now two) threads. It also makes it easier to spot the release post than having to dig through that huge thread for the announcement.

Announcement on Kotor Tool site's news page, since I check there for new versions on occasion (though the color scheme makes the text on the new site a bit hard to read).

I did not vote for:
Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool, since my computer don't like automatic updates for some reason. Neither the one in KotorTool nor the one in Firefox gets anywhere, it just stops and nothing happens.

Via Kotor Tool RSS feed, since I don't know what RSS is.

stoffe is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 10:37 AM   #12
T7nowhere
Did you reset?
 
T7nowhere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 2,972
Veteran Modder Forum Veteran Helpful! Notable contributor 
^^^ What is RSS

Its basically an easy way for Users to see their favorite sites news headlines with out having to go directly to the site unless something interests them. I actually found out about the latest version of KT yesterday through the sites rss feed.

I've only been using it a short while but Maxthon has had a rss reader built into the browser for atleast a year now.


Edit: btw Fred the manual check didn't work for me yesterday, it just reported that I had the latest version, which I didn't.
T7nowhere is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 10:53 AM   #13
Darth333
Administraterror
 
Darth333's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In my secret dungeon...
Posts: 8,292
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoffe -mkb-
I voted for:
New forum posting for each release, since no one else has, and it looks a bit silly with a forum with only one (now two) threads. It also makes it easier to spot the release post than having to dig through that huge thread for the announcement.
I would rather see different threads on the main Kotor tool features (example: module editor) as it's hard to find relevant info dealing with specific issues in a huge thread or multiple general threads but that's just me
Darth333 is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 03:44 PM   #14
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
To address some of the items above...

I was thinking of having a section for each of:

Announcements (New version annc. and other "urgent" info)
FAQ
Module editor
NSS compiling (could go under FAQ, but could also be it's own sticky)
(perhaps some of you could suggest other sections you'd like to see?)

As far at the auto-update feature goes - it still works, but it "looks" to the original Kotor Tool site as opposed to the new one, so it never announces a new version being available. It is also pretty limited right now, and I have thought of expanding it to offer more than just a main Kotor Tool download; for example, new version and map announcements, downloads of MapInfo.bfd, and other pertinent news.


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Old 01-20-2006, 05:18 PM   #15
Jeff
Rating: Awesome
 
Jeff's Avatar
 
Status: Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 8,431
Current Game: SWTOR
Imperialist Meatbags Guild Officer The Walking Carpets Guild Officer Notable contributor LFN Staff Member 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawke
I voted option 1, 3, and 5 myself!
Me too, I think if you do all 3 of those nobody should miss when a new version of KT comes out.


Follow me on Twitter
Follow StarWarsMMO.net on Twitter | Like us on Facebook
Jeff is offline   you may:
Old 01-21-2006, 04:53 AM   #16
Darth InSidious
A handful of dust.
 
Darth InSidious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Eleven-Day Empire
Posts: 5,764
Current Game: KotOR II
1,2,3 + 6 are the one's I picked...



Works-In-Progress
~
Mods Released
~
Quid existis in desertum videre?
Darth InSidious is offline   you may:
Old 01-21-2006, 12:07 PM   #17
rgdelta
Junior Member
 
rgdelta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 303
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Tetra
To address some of the items above...

I was thinking of having a section for each of:

Announcements (New version annc. and other "urgent" info)
FAQ
Module editor
NSS compiling (could go under FAQ, but could also be it's own sticky)
(perhaps some of you could suggest other sections you'd like to see?)

As far at the auto-update feature goes - it still works, but it "looks" to the original Kotor Tool site as opposed to the new one, so it never announces a new version being available. It is also pretty limited right now, and I have thought of expanding it to offer more than just a main Kotor Tool download; for example, new version and map announcements, downloads of MapInfo.bfd, and other pertinent news.
Ok that makes sense why it always says I have the newest version if you release another version that would sound great.
rgdelta is offline   you may:
Old 01-25-2006, 09:57 AM   #18
darthbudge
Lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5
Man I wish I would have known I could have Voted for more then one.

Well I voted Email cause I like getting email that aren't spam.

I would also do a New forum posting for each release.
darthbudge is offline   you may:
Old 01-30-2006, 08:12 AM   #19
Joris1
Rookie
 
Joris1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Braunschweig,Germany,Europe
Posts: 86
I think it would be good via e-mail.


"But the angel said to them: Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.", Lucas 2:10-11
Joris1 is offline   you may:
Old 02-01-2006, 01:36 PM   #20
Darkkender
Knight of Holowan
 
Darkkender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: In the mountains of Oregon
Posts: 2,953
Current Game: Star Wars The Old Republic
Veteran Modder 
I went with the first 3 options as well Fred. As much as the AutoUpdate feature is nice my machine I use for modding & gaming never goes online as a form of manual firewall to protect it as much as possible from viruses.(not that it always works.) I also have a feeling there are others out there like me. So if you base your decision solely on the results above and choose only one then the Auto-update wins hands down and then many of us wouldn't know of the latest releases. If you went with the top 2 picks that would be great. Preferably one of the top picks would be one that involves a Holowan announcement.


Working so, we will learn history as a tree knows it; we will climb into shapes printed in the seed; we will become time made visible, years made fragrant; we will make of concentric memory a stem of praise; we will inhabit daylight at a trees own speed; we will be travelers who remain, patriots to this ground.
OMG I only rank 62.13018% geek or a Extreme Geek as it is referred to on the geektest at Geektest
[TSL]Holowan Plugin
Darkkender is offline   you may:
Old 02-02-2006, 02:04 AM   #21
TheOssusKeeper
Forumite
 
TheOssusKeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 534
I usually check the forum title to see if it's been updated with a new version number, but i have also subscribed to the forum/thread so I would get automatic email notifications telling if theres been a new post or update to the thread, then I usually just check out the thread title and posts to see if there were any updates.


TheOssusKeeper is offline   you may:
Old 02-09-2006, 09:26 AM   #22
Doc Valentine
Ha-Ha Kotor Modding
 
Doc Valentine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In the eye of the beholder.
Posts: 1,133
Veteran Modder Helpful! 
I voted 1,2,3 and 5, since I feel those are all the best way to do it, that way you can print what changes have been made on your site and Holowan, and still be able to have it go through by automatic update. That way if people dont check their mail frequently, they can get the benefits as well.

-Gsccc


I don't need you no more in this world. I'll meet you in the next one, and don't be late.
Doc Valentine is offline   you may:
Old 02-16-2006, 02:05 PM   #23
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
Thanks to everyone who voted.

Top 3:
  • Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool
  • Via forum title / 1st posting
  • Announcement on Kotor Tool site's news page


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Old 02-16-2006, 02:19 PM   #24
Fred Tetra
Kotor Tool Guy
 
Fred Tetra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: What a creepy photo, eh? Had to use it!
Posts: 947
Hot Topic Starter LFN Staff Member Helpful! Notable contributor 
Thanks to everyone who voted.

Top 3:
  • Automatic or manual check from within Kotor Tool
  • Via forum title / 1st posting
  • Announcement on Kotor Tool site's news page

I will be implementing a new type of version checking (see here) from within Kotor Tool in an upcoming release, most likely available to those who've contributed to the Kotor Tool effort.

The announcement on the Kotor Tool site is now handled automatically by the Kotor Tool deployment app.

Finally, as for the forum title, I will continue to set it for each release. (Though I wish I could call the PHP page for editing a post instead of having to log in manually and do it; then then Kotor Tool deployment app could do that, too!)


Kotor Tool Developer
http://kotortool.starwarsknights.com/

"You want to help everyone who asks for aid, answer all of their questions, write that crucial bit of code for which they're searching, and be the hero who saves the day (and their job), but there comes a point when you realize that sleep is sometimes necessary."
—Stephen Toub

Visit the Kotor Tool Forum
Fred Tetra is offline   you may:
Post a new thread. Sorry, this thread is closed. Indicate all threads in this forum as read. Subscribe to this forum. RSS feed: this forum RSS feed: all forums
Go Back   LucasForums > Network > Knights of the Old Republic > Editing / Modding > T3-M4's Astromech Droid Center > KotOR Tool > Survey - How would you like to find out when a new version of Kotor Tool is released?

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:12 PM.

LFNetwork, LLC ©2002-2011 - All rights reserved.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.