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Vandar 33 21.43%
Zhar 11 7.14%
Dorak 1 0.65%
Vrook 13 8.44%
Vash 8 5.19%
Kavar 23 14.94%
Zez-Kai Ell 2 1.30%
Atris 14 9.09%
None Of Them 49 31.82%
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Old 02-02-2006, 01:50 PM   #1
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Which Jedi Masters Do You Want To Return As Force Ghosts?

In this thread, you can send in your views on which Jedi Masters you want to return as Force Ghosts in the next KOTOR. Even if Jedi like Jolee or Juhani aren't on the poll, you can still send a reply and say if you want them. You can also say which Sith Lords (Optional) you might want to return as Force Ghosts.

Personally, I would like Lonna Vash to return as a Force Ghost, because she was hardly seen in TSL. I never knew what Lightsaber she had, etc. Not that some people would care... I would also like to see Zez-Kai Ell, Kavar and Vandar as Force Ghosts.

As for Sith, I don't think we will be seeing Sion, Nihilus or Traya, but Malak may have a chance. As a redeemed Jedi. Another idea for a Sith Force Ghost, I thought of would be Bandon.

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Old 02-02-2006, 02:10 PM   #2
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I would like to see Vandar, Zhar and Dorak; optionally Vrook.
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Old 02-02-2006, 03:52 PM   #3
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I voted for Kavar because he seemed more worldly in terms of how the galaxy functioned. I would like it even better if Jolee could be one too, provided he isn't dead.

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Old 02-02-2006, 04:14 PM   #4
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Well, Jolee, of course, if he's died, but since he's not a Jedi Master on this list, I'll go for Vandar with Kavar as a very close second. They have the wisdom and Jedi experience to provide good guidance.


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Old 02-02-2006, 04:24 PM   #5
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I voted Vandar but i really want to see Vash, cause she died on Korriban, she probally had alot of info to tell to, from what i read from her datapad


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Old 02-02-2006, 04:59 PM   #6
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Yes and it seemed that she tried to hold to the Jedi Code. That thing about taking responsibility and not casting blame.

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Old 02-02-2006, 05:45 PM   #7
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None of them are as important as other characters we've met, so if we had to have ghosts I wouldn't want any of them. Jolee (if he's dead, which I don't think he should be) or Kreia.


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None of them. Listed characters or not.

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Old 02-02-2006, 06:50 PM   #9
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None of them, only a handful of Jedi know how to become a Force Ghost, none of them are on your list.



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Old 02-02-2006, 07:07 PM   #10
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I liked Master Kavar. He seemed very pragmatic to me in how he dealt with the Exile. If there are any force ghosts in the next KotOR I would like to see him as one.


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Old 02-02-2006, 07:24 PM   #11
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I don't want any of them as Force Ghosts since Obi-Wan was the first to achieve a physical state as the Force (Qui-Gon could only do the voice IIRC).


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Old 02-02-2006, 07:42 PM   #12
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Actually it was rediscovered by Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan wasn't the only person able to do it. Ulic-Qel Droma disppears upon death and he isn't even in contact with the Force!

The Jedi of old could do it, but the technique was lost. The PT Jedi couldn't has they hadn't rediscovered it yet.
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Old 02-02-2006, 08:12 PM   #13
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None of them. I didn't like them, they were all too stuck up.


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Old 02-02-2006, 09:19 PM   #14
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I think that either Vandar, Kavar or Zhar should return, i don't think Jolee is dead. Honestly though, I doubt there will be any important role of force ghosts though. BTW why is Atris a choice, did she die, I thought she was still alive when I left Telos for the last time.


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Old 02-02-2006, 09:50 PM   #15
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Come on, where's Jolee man? I prefer Jolee over most of them.
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Old 02-02-2006, 10:54 PM   #16
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Well, for me it all depends on who the PC is. I mean really, Kavar should only appear if you play as the Exile, same thing for Zhar if you are Revan.

Given the choice, I would take Jolee.


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Old 02-02-2006, 11:27 PM   #17
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Jolee. All the others are just maybes. Kavar might be good, or maybe Nihilus (I know he isn't a Jedi Master, he is a Sith Lord), but I really just want Jolee.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:38 PM   #18
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Old 02-03-2006, 12:01 AM   #19
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Dorak. I've developed sort of an attachment to him since Dark Mirror.
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:13 AM   #20
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And how would Dorak help the PC? Tell the Tales of Revan of something? To be honets, my ultimate favorite for a ghost is Jolee because he's the crotchety old hermit who's been lost in the woods for too long.

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Old 02-03-2006, 01:21 AM   #21
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Kreia. Seriously, I don't care what anyone thinks. She made TSL the awesome game it was, and a small cameo stint as a Force Ghost would make any sequel just that much better.

Aside from her, Vrook would make a great Force Ghost. He would be like a more annoying and criticizing version of Obi-Wan, lecturing you from beyond the grave. It would suit him perfectly.
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:37 AM   #22
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I think that either Vandar, Kavar or Zhar should return, i don't think Jolee is dead. Honestly though, I doubt there will be any important role of force ghosts though. BTW why is Atris a choice, did she die, I thought she was still alive when I left Telos for the last time.
You can kill Atris, Light or Dark. I also read on GameBanshee that you don't get Dark Side points for killing her.
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Old 02-03-2006, 02:06 AM   #23
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:16 AM   #24
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I'd have to go for Vandar.

But i have to say, i don't think that Kavar, Vrook or Zez-Kai Ell could become force ghost because of how they died. Their bodies are totally drained of the force they are like voids and don't become one with the force.


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Vandar, he is the wisest of them all and if any of them knew how to become a force ghost it would have to be a yoda-ling. Also, Kavar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Vrook all died without the force. I think that Jolee should come back though more than anyone as a force ghost. Sure he's not definitely dead unless Revan was DS, but think about it. . . he was like 70 years old in KoTOR 1. This game could be close to 20 years after the first one.
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Also, Kavar, Zez Kai-Ell, and Vrook all died without the force.
Isn't that what i just said?


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Isn't that what i just said?
Sorry man, I must have scrolled past your post the first time I read this.
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:41 AM   #28
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Old 02-03-2006, 11:35 AM   #29
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Actually, they can all stay gone.

Hopefully the storyline won't be so rigid that our alignment deviations won't have any affect on our mission priorities.

LS and DS play should have different paths to the end. If that's the case, then new masters, new planets, and new companions are all required.

If Coruscant isn't available, then somewhere else should be used for lightside training.
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Along with a new master. Doesn't have to be a white, human male either.

...and Korriban isn't the only sith world in this galaxy. There are plenty of places to learn the ways of the darkside.


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Old 02-04-2006, 01:38 AM   #30
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^But none of these other Sith planets just are the same as Korriban.

I could live without force ghosts, but if they do it right, I think having Jolee or someone else wouldn't be bad. I disagree that they are the "supreme cliche."
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i would like to master vandar again, hes like a second yoda


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Old 02-28-2006, 06:26 PM   #32
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None of them. There all a bunch of morons. And If there's a jedi hell, I hope the're all in it.
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I would like to see Kavar and Dorak come back as ghosts. They deserve some input in the game.


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Old 03-01-2006, 08:13 AM   #34
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None, Force Ghosts have lost all meaning after Anakin was replaced with Hayden instead of the Green Cross Code guy.

Never again...it's starting to get over-used now...seems everyone should be ablwe to do it now...


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Old 03-01-2006, 08:35 AM   #35
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none of them. If it had to be someone, Vandar but i would prefer if there weren't any at all. I hope its not Jolee cause i want him in it or as a cameo (still alive). I don't think it could be Zez kai ell, Vrook, or Kavar because after there dead and you look at them it says they look worse than dead, that they had the force drained from them. I doubt they could come back from that, but i could be mistaken
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Actually I'd like to find the unknown planet and come across the force ghosts of Jolee and Juhani. Juhani has fallen to the darkside in her despair at being, well, dead. If I go the LS path I talk her down from whatever she's plotting and get jolee to make/give me a Holocron, if I'd DS I either side with Juhani or subvert her plans in favor of my own (with high charisma/persuade), we sunder jolee's ghost and create a clone or otherwise find a body for Juhani (either cathar or another near-humanoid, say a tall twilek with sickly red eyes), then go have some fun.
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I like to see Zhar because you didn't see him much in the first and not at all in the second


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Old 03-01-2006, 11:10 AM   #38
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I would ever not see those guys again. All they did was tell you that you done somthin' wrong and give you tons of sermons. Just like my mom!!!!



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I was pretty much tied between Vandar, Zez Kai Ell, and Kavar. i couldn't decide but voted Vandar
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