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View Poll Results: Which Jedi Masters Do You Want To Return As Force Ghosts?
Vandar 33 21.43%
Zhar 11 7.14%
Dorak 1 0.65%
Vrook 13 8.44%
Vash 8 5.19%
Kavar 23 14.94%
Zez-Kai Ell 2 1.30%
Atris 14 9.09%
None Of Them 49 31.82%
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Old 03-03-2006, 04:06 PM   #41
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I want Vandar to return just because he's awesome! The Whill race is just 2 cool.
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Old 03-04-2006, 02:02 AM   #42
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Do we actually know that Vandar is dead? If so, then how?
He was alive at the end of KotOR 1 (in canon light ending), so he must have died (if he did at all) during the events in the 5 years or so between when both games are set.
Was he on Katarr when Nihilus ravaged it? If so, then surely (as other people have said) he'd be drained of all his life force, like Kreia did to Vrook, etc. and therefore could not become a ghost/spirit as he simply ceases to be, any longer.

I don't remember him be referred to at all in KotOR 2. Did I miss something?


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Old 03-04-2006, 02:48 AM   #43
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Do we actually know that Vandar is dead? If so, then how?
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I don't remember him be referred to at all in KotOR 2. Did I miss something?
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Fix the Protocol Droid by the Ebon Hawk's landing area on Dantooine in TSL and you can unlock a dialog between Vandar and Vrook about the Exile.



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Old 03-04-2006, 03:22 AM   #44
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Well, Vandar doesn't have to be dead at all.
In Kotor I, he was on the Republic ship with admiral Dodonna but he there escaped this ship. Just like Revan / Carth and Bastila (the Endar Spire) in an escape pod.

You can set Revan to DS and still Vrook tells you Vandar died on Katarr.
But what if he didn't die on Katarr or maybe didn't went to Katarr.
Or he might have survived Nihilus attack just like Visas Marr did (possibly hiding in a crystal cave which, who knows, could protect you from Nihilus's attack?
If you didn't see someone dying he/she could still be alive and it would be a good addition to Kotor III.
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Old 03-04-2006, 03:30 AM   #45
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I chose Zhar, for he was the one who re-trained Reven in KOTOR 1. He would most likely have alot of information on Revan and his fighting styles/techniques.


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Old 03-04-2006, 06:59 AM   #46
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I chose Zhar, for he was the one who re-trained Reven in KOTOR 1. He would most likely have alot of information on Revan and his fighting styles/techniques.
I hadn't chosen anyone yet, but after reading your post, I have to agree, and so I voted for him too. He would be the one, I think, who could teach you the most (maybe even give an insight into Revan's mindset, and offer possibilities as to where he might have headed, and give further information on his past, thus enhancing the story/sense of continuity even further, etc). Yes, definately him now that I think about it. I hope he does show up.

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Old 03-04-2006, 09:58 AM   #47
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None of them, let the dead rest in peace.

I don't know why the EU is so keen on recycling characters who have already perished. I'd prefer if they would come up with new, interesting characters instead. Death loses its impact if it's nothing but a minor inconvenience.
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:09 AM   #48
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I agree, although i think some force ghosts should appear. I think Vandar is a must, since he was the leader of the Jedi in part one, and he led a Jedi Strike force when he was killed (makes him cool ^^)

Also, Vrook should appear, just for his cynical jerkish comments. It could bring out some very cool DS options, since he can't harm you anymore now he's dead.

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Old 03-04-2006, 12:25 PM   #49
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I voted for none of them. Especially if you start the game as a new PC. If you go Revan or the Exile then perhaps a force ghostwould be a good idea.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:57 PM   #50
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No force ghosts, like Vibro sayed maybe if you are Revan or Exile but i want to be a new PC.
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Old 03-04-2006, 08:53 PM   #51
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Vrook! Vrook! Vrook! Vrook! We need Vrook!


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Old 03-15-2006, 07:52 AM   #52
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I think it would be cool if the game was set like 100 years after TSL. And Revan and the Exile would be the force ghost. Guiding you on where to go and what to do in order to defeat the new threat.


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Old 03-31-2006, 12:47 PM   #53
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well i want jolee because he's a legend but zahr because he trained revan but i dont think that we will play as revan or the exile in the next game probally just an outcast from the mandalorian wars who heads to dantoonine and finds it in ruins but the katarr thing would work because visas will most likely go back there and you can go to like a chamber and see them that would be COOL
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:31 PM   #54
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Instead of Jedi Force ghosts why can't we see some more of the Sith Force ghosts, someone like Marka Ragnos, or Naga Sadow?

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Old 04-03-2006, 02:11 AM   #55
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I think it would be cool if the game was set like 100 years after TSL. And Revan and the Exile would be the force ghost. Guiding you on where to go and what to do in order to defeat the new threat.
Sounds a bit like the newest Galaxies game or somethign with Obi-wan Kenobi guiding you

As to Force ghosts, I am all for them if they can be worked in. Either that or a holoimage which would give the same insight as to character personality.

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Old 04-03-2006, 06:20 AM   #56
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i think it should b atris, becuase i want her to come backk all pissed at u for sending her to her fate,and she wants to kill u. if u succeed, then she tries to turn u to the darkside by giving u information that she learned by the sith holocrons.


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Old 04-03-2006, 12:40 PM   #57
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Vrook, because he's just too much of a stubborn cuss to let death keep him from ragging on the students. Kinda funny that way. Maybe have a quest aimed at getting rid of his spirit, heh.


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Old 04-03-2006, 09:19 PM   #58
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I voted for none...it's not that I think it's overdone, or don't like the character's - I just hope that they don't rely on recycling former favorites to try to sell the game and make it good...I want the focus to be on new characters with cameos (or a little more than cameos) by past characters...I just think that the force ghost idea would have to be too involved in the main storyline for it to work...


If any at all, it would definetly be most interesting if the ghosts were/was Revan and/or the Exile...
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:41 AM   #59
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I have to agree with Reclaimer, Zhar would be perfect and give info about Revan.



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Old 04-04-2006, 10:41 AM   #60
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GO NEMO! lol he knew about Revan. Absolutely brilliant. I wouldn't want to see Atris as a Force ghost I want to see her as an NPC, I'm pretty sure she would have a good story to tell. Not to completely evade the point of this thread I wouldn't mind like the Sith Lords of old or Maybe Zhar talking about Kreia since Kreia said he was a fool for some reason or and he could talk about Revan and/or Kavar so he could talk about his former Padawan, I have to admit I'd like to see Vash since she was killed off....BOOO is all I have to say about that!
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:17 AM   #61
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Vandar, if anyone. But I'd prefer Jolee Bindo, really. He was the best Jedi I've ever seen, even better than Yodaski. Kavar and the other bunch of Jedi were horribly irritating and I constantly felt like punching them in the face...


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Old 04-05-2006, 02:56 AM   #62
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:12 PM   #63
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Instead of Jedi Force ghosts why can't we see some more of the Sith Force ghosts, someone like Marka Ragnos, or Naga Sadow?
Now that is a good idea

The Sith are a lot more obsessed with life than the Jedi, after all.



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Old 04-22-2006, 02:28 PM   #64
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Id love to see Jolee return. He is my favorite jedi from both games. The only master id like to see is the Twi'lek one (sorry havent played K1 in a long time)


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Old 04-22-2006, 03:50 PM   #65
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I'd like to see Atris return as a force ghost. She could show up at the middle of the game and talk to The Exile about all kinds of serious stuff. After the conversation Atris would dissapear, and the Exile would walk into the dark, ready to join Revan and "the others" to fight more True Sith.


It would also be cool to see Vrook return as a force ghost. It would be especially touching if you killed him in TSL, to see Vrook forgive the Exile, and finally start talking to him like a normal person.
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:11 PM   #66
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i would like 2 see vander, i adore that little green buger!!! and i would like 2 see atris. i would want 2 know what possibilities she would have with the exile if played as male


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Old 04-22-2006, 06:06 PM   #67
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None of them:
They all seemed like A-holes from my POV.
Besides, it's time for something of a new start.
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:44 AM   #68
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maybe even Revan?
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:13 PM   #69
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All of 'em. Plus more. An army of jedi spirits that march against the true sith.
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Old 04-24-2006, 04:24 PM   #70
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The yoda-like guy!


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Old 04-24-2006, 06:04 PM   #71
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vandar because he is very very short and kinda cute...*ahem* in a manly way *ahem*
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:17 AM   #72
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harhoth, jolee said he is one of the wisest master that ever live. or perhaps brianna mother, arren kae or maybe malak as redeemed jedi. i have a question, when malak turn to sith, what rank was he. knight, padawan.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:22 PM   #73
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will revan be in the next game cus ive been waitin to kill him
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Old 06-11-2006, 04:39 AM   #74
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blah...I liked Kavar. He's just a cool guy...I don't like vandar though because he's pretty much just there because people like Yoda. I don't like Vrook cuz personally, I believe he has a stick up his ass ; )...I don't like Kreia, but if she was in here she would definetly add some features to the story plot. same goes for sith spirits, especially NIHILUS!!! he totally pwns. He should be in number 3, it would be interesting to learn how he was a jedi and became this ass kicking, planet eating dude who can wield a lightsaber pretty damn well. not to mention the mask.
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:29 PM   #75
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None of them, but if I had to choose, Vash. I would much rather have a Sith Lord like Exar Kun or Naga Sadow than a Jedi Master.


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Instead of Jedi Force ghosts why can't we see some more of the Sith Force ghosts, someone like Marka Ragnos, or Naga Sadow?
lol, didn't see that till after I posted. I'm with ya, igyman.


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Old 06-13-2006, 02:49 PM   #76
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i think that kevar should be a force ghost. He is one of the most open jedi masters and i would have voted for vandar if i knew that he died. I liked most of the jedi masters, i really enjoyed the jedi masters and jedi temples, same for the sith


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Old 06-15-2006, 08:52 PM   #77
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If it should be anyone that deserves such prestige as being a Force Ghost - it should be Jolee. He earns for being so wise, in my opinion.

Though, I'd prefer to see no Force Ghosts and Jolee alive really.


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Old 06-16-2006, 02:07 PM   #78
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i would have to see the same about kevar, how about kevar did not get killed, kreia didn't kill him on purpose. that could be done for all three who died, kevar rules!!!!(this is a different thread)


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Old 06-17-2006, 12:58 AM   #79
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Vrook. He was in KotOR I, he was in KotOR II, and the deja vu past relived sort of thing is awesome.
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Who says the masters in TSL are dead? IIRC, Kreia claims she'd 'stripped them of the Force', or made them feel what the Exile did/did what they were about to do to the Exile (can't really remember, sorry...)



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