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Old 06-27-2006, 10:23 AM   #201
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Man you guys are FREAKS!. But in a good way. I have one question. What if they work together? Wouldnt they be a unstopable force? I mean from what i heard so far they are practicly gods among men which I agree, but find me a reason why would they fight? They arent even in a same universe, but hec thats would be a blast seeing them fight! Imagine them manouvering each other truying to even harm one another. The grenades exploding and guns blazing in a fight that lasts all day untill they use up all of their ammo. And then they fo into melle... That could be a movie of a century! Of course if Uvve Ball would direct it, it would be thrown into toxic waste never to see the light of day.
O.o, im starting to feel a chill down my spine. BRRRRRRR...
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:25 AM   #202
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By the way I'm new so forgive me when I say i dont know who would win.
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Old 06-27-2006, 01:29 PM   #203
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Yeah, we can all tell you're new, don't double post, and that would make a terrible movie.



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Old 06-27-2006, 01:54 PM   #204
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Maybe, but we will never know will we?
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:07 AM   #205
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already the way you put it made me get up bang head on the wall a few times and come back and type this. i mean the only thing happening in that movie then would be a bunchof shooting and maybe an ammo depletion crisis.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:12 PM   #206
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Don't forget kicking the ass of the real enemy .
If you ask me I vote for Spartan, because he saved Earth many times and none of the Deltas did that.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:55 PM   #207
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Great logic, Alan, how could the Commandos save Earth? RC is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
I'm curious, when did this "Spartan" you're refering to save Earth many times?



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Old 06-29-2006, 07:39 PM   #208
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Yeah, I hear that they fight to save Earth in Halo 2, but it isn't just a spartan. It's the combined force of basically all humans.



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Old 06-30-2006, 12:28 AM   #209
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The commandos are good, but the spartans are better. Think about it, a squad of commandos against a squad of spartans. The commandos would lose.
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Old 06-30-2006, 01:28 AM   #210
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Hell no. It would be even. and the commandos saved the galaxy cause if they were never created then they wouldn't set events in motion for the Jedi and Sith so you would never have Kenobi and the clones finding Grevious and I could on and on but you get my point.



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Old 06-30-2006, 03:30 AM   #211
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also many things in the SW timeline would be different if the commandoes werent created cause the whole war would have lasted longer.
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Old 06-30-2006, 04:50 AM   #212
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True, true, very true. But didnt John-117 saved Earth by not activating Halo?
I mean if it was activated it would destroy the source of food for Flood which would mean destruction of planets maybe even Earth itself?
But Im off the topic, so a squad of Spartans vs squad of Deltas= even.
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Old 06-30-2006, 08:52 AM   #213
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i would believe the outcome in a battle with a squad of Spartans vs a squad of commandoes would have the terrain play a big part of it
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Old 06-30-2006, 10:12 AM   #214
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I agree with taclled. The terrain would play a big part in the battle. And remember, if we're talking squads, the commandos have a lot more than they'd have alone. An E-Web turret would come into play, as would a designated squad sniper and a demolitions expert, capable of leveling an entire hill. I think if we bring this to squads, the commandos just get even better equipped. Sure, the Spartans will gain more equipment, but not as much expodentially as the commandos do.



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Old 06-30-2006, 11:13 AM   #215
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unless of course U get scorch as the Demo expert. hel'l level a planet and then say sorry lol. also the commandos can request other foregin equipment and a BlasTech EWHB-12 or a VLD2261 laser cannon would come into play as would numerous mines and thermal tape
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:02 PM   #216
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What about a canyon with two bases on each side with trenches in the middle? Similer to the muti-player level Blood Gulch on Halo. it would be even
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Old 06-30-2006, 02:07 PM   #217
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What if one commando(lets say "Boss") vs Master Chief. No armour, No weapons, NOTHING. It would be an even match. What do you think taclled, Niner_777, BM-65?
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:04 PM   #218
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Boss vs Master Chief, no armor, no weapons, NOTHING. - No doubt, Master Chief would win. He could use his high speed and strong muscles to hunt down Boss and tear him apart. The only chance that Boss would have would be if he could hit Master Chief in one of his pressure points hard enough while Master Chief was cradleing him.

However, squad vs squad on Blood Gultch. I don't think that it would be even. The commandos would be able to win if they were attacking or defending. A squad of commandos just has way too much equippment. They could set up their turret on a canyon wall or inside the base. They have tons of explosives compared to the Spartans frag gernades. And they have snipers. Just too much equipment...

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Old 06-30-2006, 03:40 PM   #219
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i agree with niner
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:40 PM   #220
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have you played halo before? niner?
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:46 PM   #221
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lol, O.K. Niner, without armour Boss would be huge compared to Master Chief, the ARCs and Commandos are really well built unlike the normal troopers.
How about the Grand Army of the Republic, including Jedi Generals and Star Destroyers versus whatever the name of Earths army on Halo.
My bet is with the Republic.

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Old 06-30-2006, 04:04 PM   #222
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what we need is for somebody who hasen't played either one and watch a cinematic from both games. a little new to this.
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Old 06-30-2006, 04:30 PM   #223
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I've played most of the first Halo at my friend's house. MachineCult, I didn't know the size difference. I just figured that Spartans were bigger and stronger because of their augmentations. I do know that clones are 1.83 meters tall.



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Old 06-30-2006, 05:28 PM   #224
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halo92, ffs, delete your first and third posts in that triple post thing you've got going on, click edit to do so.
Niner, my guess was that Boss and Master Chief were evenly matched but I wasn't aware of Master Chiefs augs.
lol, like I said before, Grand Army of the Republic, including Jedi Generals and Star Destroyers versus whatever the name of Earths army on Halo.



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Old 06-30-2006, 05:43 PM   #225
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Republic would probably win but about John-117 and Boss hand to hand, John would win because of his augs. Man Spartans are more inteligent, more stronger, more deadly than a avarage human, and very tough to kill. I read about it in Wikipedia. Clones, even Commandos are copies of a ordinary Mandalorian (human). I dont say they are weak but Spartan in his full battle armor weigs 450 kilos and height 2,1 meters. Thats a lot of muscle.
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:53 PM   #226
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i must say jango is far from ordinary, even for mandos, who are mostly mercs.
I will tell you Mr. Frost that Spartans are not more intelligent or deadlier than commandos. And strength is hard to compare since not many ppl know whats under there Katarn Armor
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:20 PM   #227
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:49 PM   #228
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What an intelligent contribution.

taclled, I haven't been able to find a picture but the ARC trooper Alpha was captured by Asajj Ventress and he and Obi-wan escaped without his armour, basically just wearing a vest and boxershorts and he was built like Arnie, the Commandos are the same as the ARCs, just put to different use. So what i'm saying is the Commandos are extremely well built, you can tell by the size of the armour compared with the normal Clone armour and the Spartans armour.
Also, can we have a source for the Spartans augs? Because all I remember being mentioned in the game is Master Chiefs armour.



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The source for the Spartans' augs for me was Fall of Reach. I think that they described it pretty well.

Also, in Hard Contact, it talks about how muscular the commandos are. Their diets are balanced perfectly so they have no fat.



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Thanks machinecult and may i ask WHAT in the Galaxy are augs
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Augumentations (sp) are, well how do I put this, improvments to help the joints move more freely and faster. I think. I read the fall of reach a long time ago.


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Boss vs Master Chief, no armor, no weapons, NOTHING. - No doubt, Master Chief would win. He could use his high speed and strong muscles to hunt down Boss and tear him apart. The only chance that Boss would have would be if he could hit Master Chief in one of his pressure points hard enough while Master Chief was cradleing him.

However, squad vs squad on Blood Gultch. I don't think that it would be even. The commandos would be able to win if they were attacking or defending. A squad of commandos just has way too much equippment. They could set up their turret on a canyon wall or inside the base. They have tons of explosives compared to the Spartans frag gernades. And they have snipers. Just too much equipment...

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I agree Master Chief would rip Boss apart with no equippment.
But a squad of commandos vs a squad of spartans. Who would win would depend on the enviroment like niner said.
But even though the Commandos are clones and Chief is not they'd be about the nearlly the same in strength if the commando has stims with him. But I still think the Chief would be stronger still.



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Old 07-01-2006, 12:09 AM   #234
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i agree. but we haven't really seen how a squad of spartans would
do. what do you guys think? oh did anyone watch the video? if so did you like it?
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Two things. 1. we get to read what a squad of spartans in The Fall of Reach and 2. I've got nearlly all the red vs blue videos on my pc.



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One on one, id say an ARC trooper would destroy a spartan anyday. Given the weapons that they have, republic weaponry is far more damaging than covenant/earth weapons, yes there are energy sniper rifles, but again, commandos have it as initial weaponry. Same with grenade launchers. Commandos are trained better (Jango Fett's knowledge VS regular military knowledge). of course a plasma pistol/battle rifle combo, would be a pretty good counter, yet i dont see the covenant handing out a few plasma pistols

One on one without equipment would swing into a spartan's favor, but again, having augments are pretty cheap and would be a dishonorable victory. Although an ARC trooper would still put up a really good fight, maybe breaking a few bones and limbs before going down.
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:58 AM   #237
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As a point. Spartans are 7-footers in height, they're augmented with horomones and bio-cybernetic implants to increase nervous transmission, decrease sex drive, increase muscular strength and cardio-vascular strength.Oh yeah, and to be so damned tall in the first place. They have optical implants and bone treatments for sight and bone density and strength. In fact the only thing they lack is a strong immune system and maybe live combat experience at start, although they are trained harshly against humans at start.

BTW, most of the upgrades are artificial organics rather than completely machine, so I doubt an EMP would fry them in any way that an athlete on strong dope would.


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Old 07-01-2006, 09:18 AM   #238
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The only thing that would really chouch them up is probably Trando Concusion rifle. And dont forget Spartans have sticky bomb wich was wery helpfull to me against almost everything, even Hunters.
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I just read this yesterday: Spartans are two meters tall with their armor on. I'm not sure if clones are 1.83 with armor or without. I just thought that I'd throw that piece of information in.



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Sorry for not being specific,BM, I men't a video.


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