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Old 04-06-2006, 08:04 PM   #1
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Lets talk about Nihilus [Spoilers]

what we know for sure about Nihilus , his a male , when visas talk about him she always says "he" same about Kreia..

He have the power to feed the force in force sensitive.
He also look to have a power to Banish someone from the force , like Nomi Sunrider did to Ulic Qel-Droma.

hes ruthless , he have slave's and a strange way to corrupt hes enemy..

he want to face the exile but why ???

we dont know what species he hes.. or where hes from.

have he been trained by kreia , i dont think so.
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:41 PM   #2
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Uh he was born of the Mandalorian wars. He attacked Telos because he believed that there were Force sensitives there. The Exile shows up and he tries to feed but cannot. Visa's was his slave in that he made her see her destroyed world and she was bound to him. It's almost like a padawan is bound to the master but in a twisted sort of way.

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Old 04-06-2006, 11:34 PM   #3
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He's evil.


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Old 04-07-2006, 02:34 AM   #4
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I KNOW he is evil
I was just trying to show the relationship between him and Visas in terms of the Force. He is a strange baddie in that you cannot find him but he finds you, like a nightmare.

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He may be evil but he's boring and too easy to kill once you meet him! Sion is a much better boss. First time i played I was messin' myself everytime he appeared thinking even though you don't really fight him till the end.


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They didn't even make him so special in the game. Devs just made him look cool.

Too bad, he was the one who inspired me to play KotOR 2 because he looked like an awesome sith lord.



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Old 04-07-2006, 08:47 AM   #7
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They didn't even make him so special in the game. Devs just made him look cool.

Too bad, he was the one who inspired me to play KotOR 2 because he looked like an awesome sith lord.
Everyone needs a good inspiration...lol

Yeah, Nuhilius was a real disapointment for me...on Xbox.


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Old 04-07-2006, 10:40 AM   #8
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Huge dissappointment

I barely got to fight him.

By the time I got my saber out, Visas and Mandalore had almost finished him.

Some sith lord...

Wish I could have utilzed his mask. Naah, probably would have made me weaker.


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Old 04-07-2006, 12:56 PM   #10
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we dont know what species he hes..
Human.

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Old 04-07-2006, 01:25 PM   #11
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Human.
i realy dont think hes human , hes speaking an unknow language.

if you have some proof hes human , your welcome to show us.
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Kreia says that he is no longer a man because of his hunger. I suggest the dialogue after you escape from Peragus. Kreia speaks of him who hungers, the Lord of Pain and the betrayer.

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Old 04-07-2006, 03:12 PM   #13
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Hmmm he could be a force unknown to anyone. I mean if he feeds off the force and can destroy whole worlds through it, he can't be anything we can imagine. He maybe the force himself, although a more corrupt version of it. Or possibly a sith that died but has come back in that form.

I don't know really, if i was the exile i would have a sneak peak at him under his mask to make sure :P
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:02 PM   #14
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What I want to know is: Who is Darth Nihilus? Who is hiding behind that mask and how he became so powerful?(Made of the Mandalorian Wars doesn't mean much to me)

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Old 04-07-2006, 04:29 PM   #15
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Maybe because all the life lost in the Mandalorian wars there was a huge disturbance in the force or something. And the end product of it was him. I dunno i'm just using my imagination hehe. ALthough my imagination has more bunnies.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:34 PM   #16
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Hehehe sorry my immature mind.
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:13 PM   #19
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i realy dont think hes human , hes speaking an unknow language.

if you have some proof hes human , your welcome to show us.
Hey, some humans in the Sith Academy in K1 were speaking Ryl! And he's speaking Sith, just like the holocrons Atris decorated her room with. Red and black. What a bad taste!

And try to get some spelling and grammar...
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:58 PM   #20
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Think Kreia mention somewhere in the game that you can become like Nihlius, but she dosent say that right out to the player, she more hint it. But i can be wrong. Havent play in maybe a month now.
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:09 PM   #21
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i realy dont think hes human , hes speaking an unknow language.

if you have some proof hes human , your welcome to show us.
Visas comes right out and tell us "He's just a man". Don't know about you but that was good enough for me. As for the language, it's a pretty obvious attempt to make him mysterious, evil, and other-worldly.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:03 PM   #22
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Well, its from Visas... and maybe "force-wise" he looks like a humanoid when he is dead, it doesn't mean he is humanoid, or even humanoid to begin with!!!

Remember, Visas looks at things dirrerently.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:49 PM   #23
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I thought that when he is "speaking" it's like he is communicating through the force directly, as he is now more of a part of it then a individual sentient being. Kinda like how Visas and Kreia see through the force (if you ever do 1st person perspective with Kreia, it is the same as with Visas/Force Sight), but in terms of communicating orally through the force, and thus only those strongly attuned to it can understand/interpret what he is expressing on an "aural" level.

I can't remember where I got that idea from, but I thought that was the explanantion the very first time I played through the game, and have kind of excepted/not questioned it since...
so this makes me wish I could remember now how I got that impression exactly in the first place...

Oh, and I'm pretty sure - as Achilles said - that he is human. Kreia says something about him no longer being a "man" anymore (I think in an homage somewhat to Anakin/Vader), and when you kill him, Visas can say, *hang on*... here:



If that isn't proof, then I don't know what the hell is...


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Old 04-07-2006, 11:05 PM   #24
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The Distorted , thanks for this proof and info.

but even kreia or Vissa maybe are wrong cause if you notice Even vissa and kreia said that Nihilus is a "Beast" iam currently playing the game again to make my new video and ill take a screenshot of it . if you want .

But i should admit with proof you guys bring me , he have more chance to be human , than anything els ..

but explain me that .... What nihilus language , its for sure not Galactic basic , even the dev's didint make subtitle when hes talking.

Sorry about my english guys again if i make my self unclear with my bad english.
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but explain me that .... What nihilus language , its for sure not Galactic basic , even the maker of the game didint show subtitle.

Sorry about my english guys again if i make my self unclear with my bad english.
Like I said, I don't think it's a determinable/definable langauge as such, but more of an audible "voicing" of him communicating directly through the force itself, I think that's why (in his case) there are no subtitles for when he "speaks", as no direct interpretation (into a language form) is possible, because it is actually unintelligable - only force sensitives can understand him, and even then, they do not hear "words" exactly (or sentences for that matter) but interpret it more on a pyschic-like level. They "feel" it - his emotions, thoughts, desires, etc. - which makes sense because Kreia describes him (like his "hunger") as driven by instinct, a primitive urge personified/epitomised.


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Old 04-07-2006, 11:33 PM   #26
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Like I said, I don't think it's a determinable/definable langauge as such, but more of an audible "voicing" of him communicating directly through the force itself, I think that's why (in his case) there are no subtitles for when he "speaks", as no direct interpretation (into a language form) is possible, because it is actually unintelligable - only force sensitives can understand him, and even then, they do not hear "words" exactly (or sentences for that matter) but interpret it more on a pyschic-like level. They "feel" it - his emotions, thoughts, desires, etc. - which makes sense because Kreia describes him (like his "hunger") as driven by instinct, a primitive urge personified/epitomised.
Sorry but i dont agree with you , cause the Exile at this time is a force sensitive . and its realy look a language , if you played kotor 1 the Guardian ( droid make by the builders of the star forge ) in the temple on Dantoin
Speak a language very similar as Nihilus. anyway its not a proof.

He look like to like humain if he only take Human's for slave. Maybe your right about him to be human . But no one yet have show true official proof.

its like Revan we dont know for sure where hes from , kreia said something about hes from far side of outer rim , something like this . and if you look at the game Mandalorian's realy look like human's ... but this wrong cause if you have read the books you see a mandalorian wiout mask/helmet , they are alien's realy look like "predator's"..

anyway i think this topic getting pointless, until we can get a hand on a comic book or a book who tlak about nihilus back story.
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anyway i think this topic getting pointless, until we can get a hand on a comic book or a book who tlak about nihilus back story.
I hope darthsion101 creates a fanfic about em'.



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Old 04-08-2006, 01:50 AM   #28
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DarthZayne, that language that the guardian droid on Dantooine speaks is an ancient dialect of Selkath.

Plus, I got the picture of Kreia also referring to Nihilus as a man:



I'd call that pretty conclusive myself, unless something turns up to actually contradict it.


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DarthZayne, that language that the guardian droid on Dantooine speaks is an ancient dialect of Selkath.

Plus, I got the picture of Kreia also referring to Nihilus as a man:



I'd call that pretty conclusive myself, unless something turns up to actually contradict it.
ok about the droid , nope the first language the droid talk was something different , then the second one is wookie , then selkat but the first one realy look like Nihilus language..

about kreia says hes a men , she also said it about Mandalore and no hes not a man .

cause no female term to talk about rodian,wookie,zabrak,mandalorian..

that doesent proof anything yet.
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Droid language: oh, ok. I'll have to check that out again - it's been a while since I've played KotOR - I'll have to refresh my memory.

You say Mandalore's not a man though, but I was under the impression that the Mandalorians (though a seperate species) are more like a different race/culture/ethnicity, in that they are a sub-sect of, and originally stem from the human race originally. Kinda like how Han Solo is called a Correllian (because of belonging to the human settlement based on the planet Correllia) but is also referred to more broadly as a human.

Then again, I have heard some people deny altogether that the Mandalorians are a seperate species in any sense at all, and just say that they are united under a belief system. Anyone actually know for sure? LOL - Or is that another inconsistency/vague concept (like Nihilus) in the SW universe?


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Old 04-08-2006, 04:52 AM   #31
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here the proof that mandalorian are not human.

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hmm, they look like the Predator a bit so err why are Canderous and other Mandalorians without armour in Kotor human?


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Old 04-08-2006, 09:24 AM   #33
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The original Mandalorians were not humans, but accepted humans into the cluture. And Nihilus speaks the same language as Atris' holocrons.
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Nihilus speaks the same language as Atris's holocrons which are sith...So I pressume that Nihilus speaks ancient Sith but at a more slower rate then the holocrons did. I think he is a man even if he was born of the mandalore wars in essence he is still a man, or a shell of a man.
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I have no idea what Nilhus was, I think the developers wanted it that way, it might be revealed in K3. His language is Sith, and refering to him as a "man" Just means he's male and humanoid, but he could be human.


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Old 04-09-2006, 01:34 AM   #36
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It seems to me that Nilhus and the exile are of the same making but went in the opposite derection of each other.

When the end came on Malachor V, the exile chose to cut him/herself off from the force to escape the pain/hunger he was enduring where as Nilhus embraced the pain in a different way. Instead of losing the force to escape the pain he used it to try and dull hid pain/hunger.

So in essence both were jedi who suufered on Malachor V and chose different ways of coping with it.
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Well, Visas is not a "human" the species.

None the less, it means Nillie start out as a common mortal just like most anyone else, and most definitely a force sensitive, quite probably a jedi.

I don't think him being a human, or twi'lek or zabrak, or whatever matters to the story though, so don't dwell on it too much. (so did the male part, even if he is a gungan eunich before his change)

The idea is that, when placed under the same "incident" like M-V, the so-called survivors can become something like Nillie, instead of something like Exile, or maybe Zion??
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i found something interesting

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?im...024x7681mt.jpg

look hes arm look human to me . so maybe is human.

and i found something about nihilus power he only can feed force from Jedi's proof is when your fighting him , he want to feed you and then you say that no jedi here , its with only weeken you .
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But he can still feed on them, Kriea say that Nihlius can kill all living thing with his power, it will maybe weaken him temperaly, but he can still do it.
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But he can still feed on them, Kriea say that Nihlius can kill all living thing with his power, it will maybe weaken him temperaly, but he can still do it.
if he can still feed why its dosent kill The exile then ? its making him realy week and i didnt suffer any stats atribute dmg.

yes he can "try" if you tell him (nihilus) the option i told you he did and then kneel its make him much more easier to kill.

Notice the Dev have make lots of error concerning the comic's books .
exemple mandalorian are not human.

and lots of story error about the sith war.
Naga Sadow ( golden age ) i wont enter into this.

But not Nihilus cant feed all living thing i thing he can only feed lightside ppl , maybe neutral but not darksider's . if he try he get very week.

its the game who tell this not me.
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